Maxman Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 This. Will be interesting how ESPN handles this. They have a rule against publicly criticizing co-employers with a short suspension being the usual punishment. It happened recently with Bill Simmons when he criticized the Bayless-Sherman interviewvia twitter. With no tweet from Cimini since the apology, the thought that he might actually be in trouble over this actually seems like a real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I hate twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 With no tweet from Cimini since the apology, the thought that he might actually be in trouble over this actually seems like a real possibility. Maybe he should check to see if Newsday's sports department is hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Agree and disagree with this. The Jets are, for the most part, a clownshoes organization with more leaks than a Flomax ad, so of course most of the stories will be negative, but Mehta and Cimini are ungodly terrible journalists. Mehta's water-carrying for Rex down the stretch last season was embarrassing, and the next time he names a source, it'll be his first. Cimini gets to the Geno story a week later than everyone else, and when he does, his evidence for corroborating the rumors is a.) an anonymous NFC scout saying "right now, he's coming off as a spoiled, pampered brat" and b.) "an official from one team--not a team that visited with Smith--said the cell-phone episode was mentioned and discussed in its draft room while evaluating Smith." To be clear, he's not asking teams for accounts of their experiences with Geno. He's asking them how they feel about what they've heard about Geno in re: a story that was largely manufactured to begin with. He's asking scouts for f**king media criticism. There's not an ounce of journalistic ethics, accountability, or common sense between the two of them. Thirty-one teams in the league have sports reporters. The Jets have tabloid reporters who happen to cover sports. Ehhhhhhh, Boston is that way too, with Shaughnessy and Borges being absolute sh*tbirds. I realize it's not great journalism, per se, but it's what people read and what sells. It's why nobody talks about the NYT reporters, even though they mostly do serious, insightful stuff on the teams week in and week out. My point is that Mehta and Cimini don't have to work very hard to find absurd Jets stories, the same way Adam Rubin doesn't have to put any effort into writing negative Mets stories. Those stories are delivered to these guys hot and fresh every morning. All they need to do is make a few phone calls, get a few corroborating quotes and, boom, there's another negative Jets story. It'll be interesting to see how/if that changes under Idzik, who seems to be fairly conscious of keeping internal BS out of the papers. Mehta and Rich will have to work a little harder to find salacious angles...maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Maybe he should check to see if Newsday's sports department is hiring. lol........he will need a premium membership though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ehhhhhhh, Boston is that way too, with Shaughnessy and Borges being absolute sh*tbirds. I realize it's not great journalism, per se, but it's what people read and what sells. It's why nobody talks about the NYT reporters, even though they mostly do serious, insightful stuff on the teams week in and week out. My point is that Mehta and Cimini don't have to work very hard to find absurd Jets stories, the same way Adam Rubin doesn't have to put any effort into writing negative Mets stories. Those stories are delivered to these guys hot and fresh every morning. All they need to do is make a few phone calls, get a few corroborating quotes and, boom, there's another negative Jets story. It'll be interesting to see how/if that changes under Idzik, who seems to be fairly conscious of keeping internal BS out of the papers. Mehta and Rich will have to work a little harder to find salacious angles...maybe. Agree with all this. You know I don't go in for the self-pitying "ZOMG TEH MEDIAZ" crap. But the fact that the Jets lend themselves to negative coverage and the fact that a good number of our beat reporters are shameless hacks aren't mutually exclusive propositions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Almost everyone who covers the Jets that I have dealt with or chatted with over email, DM, Twitter, etc... really has been great even when there is disagreement, except Cimini. Hes ripped things Ive done not because its wrong but because you know it might contradict something he has written about. And not to my email either but to others. I dont really get that at all. He hit a low point with me back in March with this one: Here was what I wrote on March 5 in regards to Revis' payments in a trade http://www.nyjetscap.com/2013_Articles/trade-timeline.html March 16 ESPN NY posted this http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21565/revis-collects-1-million Coincidences happen but wow that was basically identical. I had more than a share of emails and tweets over that one when people recognized the charts as one that I wrote the week before. Whether Cimini got the idea on his own I have no clue but his track record over the last few years has been in the dumps. And this last one he just posted on Twitter is just so bad. I hope people remember that the next time he picks on some athlete for posting something dumb on Twitter. Plagiarism? Really? Like anyone would give a rat's ass and hold it against him if he just referenced either of your sites, which kick ass. And then he's a dick to you on top of it? What a lowlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Plagiarism? Really? Like anyone would give a rat's ass and hold it against him if he just referenced either of your sites, which kick ass. And then he's a dick to you on top of it? What a lowlife. Somebody told me that Rich is a narcissist. I have no idea if that is true, I don't know him personally. But if it was true, that would explain why he couldn't give Jason credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Agree with all this. You know I don't go in for the self-pitying "ZOMG TEH MEDIAZ" crap. But the fact that the Jets lend themselves to negative coverage and the fact that a good number of our beat reporters are shameless hacks aren't mutually exclusive propositions. True indeed. Maxman's obsessive hatred is not based in any sort of logic, however. He's weird like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Plagiarism? Really? Like anyone would give a rat's ass and hold it against him if he just referenced either of your sites, which kick ass. And then he's a dick to you on top of it? What a lowlife. With even the most casual fans of teams starting to discuss cap space, it's a wonder that the Post, Daily News, etc, doesn't give a guy like Jason a 500 word column each week to explain where the Giants and Jets are at any given time. Instead, they just ask Cimini and Mehta to pirate the info and pretend that they have a grasp of what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Somebody told me that Rich is a narcissist. I have no idea if that is true, I don't know him personally. But if it was true, that would explain why he couldn't give Jason credit. A reliable source? A person with knowledge of the situation? hahaha See what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 True. Rich told us in an online chat all those years ago that he wouldn't cover the Jets if they moved to NJ. Yeah, how did that work out for you Rich? He was smart enough to leave the NY Daily News and jump to ESPN. But I definitely agree with what you said. He always wanted to be a national columnist and it never worked out. He is a really good writer, he breaks things down well and actually knows football. But the negativity will get him in the end. isnt this the 2nd 'messed up' thing? wasnt it determined he was the 'fake steiney'?? and had to apologize privately to steiney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 With no tweet from Cimini since the apology, the thought that he might actually be in trouble over this actually seems like a real possibility. Knowing our luck, he'll get fired and Manish will get his spot at ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 maybe cimini doesn't hate the jets, maybe he's a bitter angry douche to everyobody ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Jets players should ask him about this tweet everytime he interviews any of them for the whole year....turn the tables a little bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 maybe cimini doesn't hate the jets, maybe he's a bitter angry douche to everyobody ? I'll give Rich this much credit...he takes any abuse he gets on Twitter like a man (for the most part). If you criticize him, he'll usually reply for everyone to see, and doesn't hit behind his computer. Unlike that bastard Mehta. Every time I criticized something he wrote, it was always a DM back to me, yet I couldn't DM him. Eventually, I Tweeted to him that my anonymous sources told me his anonymous sources are full of sh*t, and then he blocked me, and even got his butt-buddy Gary Myers to block me too. Fortunately people still RT what they post so it's not like it's affecting my ability to still read their sh*t lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Jets players should ask him about this tweet everytime he interviews any of them for the whole year....turn the tables a little bit! Just a simple "How is Twitter these days Rich?" would suffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just a simple "How is Twitter these days Rich?" would suffice No I want them to pry like the media does: Rich, have you spoken to her and apologzied? How did she react? Do you still sit together in the ESPN lunchroom? Has this caused a divide in the ESPN staff? What did you mean by "sh*t"? Oh and ask the same questions every single time they see him for the whole year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Jets players should ask him about this tweet everytime he interviews any of them for the whole year....turn the tables a little bit! That would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 No I want them to pry like the media does: Rich, have you spoken to her and apologzied? How did she react? Do you still sit together in the ESPN lunchroom? Has this caused a divide in the ESPN staff? What did you mean by "sh*t"? Oh and ask the same questions every single time they see him for the whole year! Unfortunately, I have a feeling the other idiot beat writers would defend Cimini and rip the Jets' players who would do it. I'd love it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wonder if Richy boy is in trouble, hasn't posted single thing since the apology four days ago. Not even a word about Garrard stepping down; I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to take a vacation for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wonder if Richy boy is in trouble, hasn't posted single thing since the apology four days ago. Not even a word about Garrard stepping down; I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to take a vacation for a bit. I was thinking the same thing....no way he would pass up bashing the Jets for Garrard leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Did he write any articles lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Wonder if Richy boy is in trouble, hasn't posted single thing since the apology four days ago. Not even a word about Garrard stepping down; I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to take a vacation for a bit. Good catch, but that's not really ESPN's way. They love to make a spectacle of disciplining their staff and writers. Unless it's an out-and-out termination, they'd have issued five press releases talking about their zeal for journalistic ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Somebody told me that Rich is a narcissist. I have no idea if that is true, I don't know him personally. But if it was true, that would explain why he couldn't give Jason credit. That would explain, well, everything. His writing just wreaks of self important douchery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Check this out...Cimini didn't write the Garrard article they have up there now. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9279437/david-garrard-informs-new-york-jets-calling-it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 He didn't write the front office article yesterday either: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9277133/new-york-jets-gm-john-idzik-continues-front-office-shakeup-source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is who wrote the Jets articles... Kieran Darcy is a staff writer for ESPNNewYork.com, covering college sports in particular. He joined ESPN in August of 2000, after graduating from the University of Pennsylvania, where he played four years of JV basketball for the Quakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 He did write an article saying Cribbs wasn't healthy: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/23325/cribbs-knee-not-healthy-yet Then they had Kiernan post that Cribbs signed with the Raiders, lol: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/23331/cribbs-signs-with-raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Funny, they are double posting James Walker's article on Garrard now. He is the AFCEAST blogger, but they posted his piece on ESPN New York, which is, of course, Cimini's gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Maybe they will re-assign Rich to cover Jane Mcmanus's Roller Derby Team http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2011/04/see-jane-roll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 He did write an article saying Cribbs wasn't healthy: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/23325/cribbs-knee-not-healthy-yet Then they had Kiernan post that Cribbs signed with the Raiders, lol: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/23331/cribbs-signs-with-raiders looks like as of tuesday he was still writing on his blog, which is what the Cribbs piece is. He has not done any articals though. F him, just sounds like such a penis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Go figure. For the first time in 5 years Cimini makes an informed, factual post, and everyone is screaming for his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 How has Max not photoshopped Cimini's face onto a milk carton? That is a missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 How has Max not photoshopped Cimini's face onto a milk carton? That is a missed opportunity. How hard is it to photoshop something with sausages for fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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