Oh boy, Santonio chirping again

[Greenseed4]

I dont know about that...he too has complained about targets and now he's complaining he doesnt get enough long balls thrown his way. 

 

 

No, not quiet.

 

 

Oh. 

[Pac]

Santonio Holmes ‏@ToneTime10 2h

What a great morning 2 awake 2 hear the media frenzy about Holmes quitting on his team, and he sucks, and he always blaming someone else.

 

Santonio Holmes ‏@ToneTime10 1h

For the record. This media stuff never distracts me, I hate that our #NyJets fans have to read this "crap" when things aren't going good!

 

 

lol this friggin guy...  and why did he put crap in quotes?

[Sperm Edwards]

Boy is he making himself even more attractive to other teams for 2014 after he's cut.  Just a master of self-marketing. Pure genius.  EVERYONE is going to want this guy next year and will pay big to get him.

[faba]

You can put your foot in your mouth- what can you do with a tweet?

[NJ]

Boy is he making himself even more attractive to other teams for 2014 after he's cut.  Just a master of self-marketing. Pure genius.  EVERYONE is going to want this guy next year and will pay big to get him.

[Sperm Edwards]

What a wonderful re-signing he was.  Just excellent, excellent planning to have 3 of the team's top 4 WRs (including the #1 and #2) all hit free agency at the same time, heading into a season with no CBA in place.  Just masterful.

[Big Blocker]

Holmes is frustrated because he's hurt and because his Qb is playing like crap.

 

That about covers it.  Never understood the hatred too many Jet fans have for him.

[stugotz81]

Holmes is frustrated because he's hurt and because his Qb is playing like crap.

 

That about covers it.  Never understood the hatred too many Jet fans have for him.

[Big Blocker]

 

He was sick of playing with Sanchez.  I would have been, too.

 

I know MS has his supporters, but could you really imagine playing with him?

[stugotz81]

He was sick of playing with Sanchez.  I would have been, too.

 

I know MS has his supporters, but could you really imagine playing with him?

he does? lol....no I couldn't imagine playing with him but there also was a bunch of other guys on that field that day too who didn't go sit on the bench and act like a lil btch 

[bitonti]

if we spend all our time complaining about the wide outs,

 

we don't have to talk about the qb

[JiFtheOracle]

if we spend all our time complaining about the wide outs,

 

we don't have to talk about the qb

 

You're terrible at this.  You'd think you'd have learned something from the numerous mentors you have around this place. 

[kay_gee]

I'm not sure this is as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be. it sounds like he was asked why he doesn't have many catches and when he answered (honestly?), they pounced on the part of the quote that would make him look worst. this is the same media who criticised Tebow for talking to the media and then asked Tebow how he felt about that. it's a constant sh*tshow.

[#27TheDominator]

 

 

“just running down the field and (my) hamstring felt really tight, so I just decided I couldn’t run anymore, stopped, and walked off the field.”

 

 

Way to gut it out!  Sort of like lateraling the ball to the Niners when he broke his foot. 

[faba]

Way to gut it out!  Sort of like lateraling the ball to the Niners when he broke his foot. 

Yeah Santonio will never win Tough Guy award huh.

[#27TheDominator]

Santonio Holmes, Tyrone Prothro.  There isn't much difference, is there?

[flgreen]

He was sick of playing with Sanchez.  I would have been, too.

 

I know MS has his supporters, but could you really imagine playing with him?

  Yeah but the thing is he's not playing with Sanchez anymore.  He's playing with a rookie QB, who is struggling mightily.   So yeah to make himself feel better he throws the kid under the bus.  Cool.  That's what veteran, ex team captains do.

 

Your actually making a good argument for why he is hated.   He isn't sitting there alone because he is sulking about Sanchez.  He is sitting there alone because his teammates just kicked out of the huddle  

[Big Blocker]

  Yeah but the thing is he's not playing with Sanchez anymore.  He's playing with a rookie QB, who is struggling mightily.   So yeah to make himself feel better he throws the kid under the bus.  Cool.  That's what veteran, ex team captains do.

 

Your actually making a good argument for why he is hated.   He isn't sitting there alone because he is sulking about Sanchez.  He is sitting there alone because his teammates just kicked out of the huddle  

 

I have never heard of any indication that Holmes is hated by his teammates, if that is what you are implying.  There's been plenty of talk here and there about other players and criticisms, both current and former players.  I don't know of any about Holmes.  Do you?

 

Holmes worked hard to get back, from all indications.  He wants to contribute.  He works with the younger players.  When he speaks in post game pressers, he tends to offer more insight than most players, and to me he makes clear he wants to win.

 

Many Jet fans complain about the media all the time.  In this case the writer focused on a small part of the interview, taking it out of context.  He was asked why he did not get the ball more, and he said why.

 

The fact that Smith is a rookie does not change that Smith more than anyone else, far more than anyone else, is why the passing game is not more successful.  Ryan has said Smith must do better.  Was that throwing Smith under the bus?

 

Smith knows both that Holmes wants the ball to contribute, and that he did not get the opportunities he had the week before.  Plus he's injured and frustrated about it.  I don't see the big deal here.

[SenorGato]

The week after he went off for 156 yards and was publicly fellating Geno.  Santonio leads the team in targets, maybe he if got better separation or fought for some of those 50/50s he'd have a few more catches.  This team has always needed and never really gone after one of those Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant type receivers who can just body-up other dbacks and make the difficult grab.  Holmes, Moss, Coles etc. can all make tough catches and are tougher guys, but then rely so much on the QB to make the perfect pass.  Give me Brandon Marshall, Justin Blackmon and a tiny slot receiver and I'll call it a day.

Yes. This is actually a decade old need at this point. Now that there's a guy who might actually be a long term QB here it's about that time to go grab one. 

[yanks9596]

He will never learn.  One of the biggest assholes in the NFL.

 

I would sooner cut him than ride it out, even if he is the best we have right now.  He's a cancer.

 

That, and he doesn't even know how to properly catch a football.  Drives me insane to watch him let the ball go past him and then try to scissor it with his hands backwards.

 

Yeah, I am just not a fan.

[flgreen]

I have never heard of any indication that Holmes is hated by his teammates, if that is what you are implying.  There's been plenty of talk here and there about other players and criticisms, both current and former players.  I don't know of any about Holmes.  Do you?

 

Holmes worked hard to get back, from all indications.  He wants to contribute.  He works with the younger players.  When he speaks in post game pressers, he tends to offer more insight than most players, and to me he makes clear he wants to win.

 

Many Jet fans complain about the media all the time.  In this case the writer focused on a small part of the interview, taking it out of context.  He was asked why he did not get the ball more, and he said why.

 

Yes, I do know of many articles reflecting  criticism of Holmes.  Her's just one from the time of the posted picture.  Many many more by both the NY and Pittsburgh 

 

The fact that Smith is a rookie does not change that Smith more than anyone else, far more than anyone else, is why the passing game is not more successful.  Ryan has said Smith must do better.  Was that throwing Smith under the bus?

 

Smith knows both that Holmes wants the ball to contribute, and that he did not get the opportunities he had the week before.  Plus he's injured and frustrated about it.  I don't see the big deal here.

 

Can't say if Holmes is hated by his teammates, but he is hated by a lot of fans, and certainly not liked by his teamates, and that is why he is sitting alone on the bench after he was  kicked him out of the huddle.

 

Rex said he didn't take him out he took himself out.  He was traded by Pittsburgh cheap after being the Super Bowl MVP because he was considered to be a locker room cancer.

 

Yes, I do know of many articles reflecting  criticism of Holmes.  Here's just one from the time of the posted picture.  Many many more in both  NY and Pittsburgh 

 

Santonio Holmes: Benching coach's call

Updated: January 2, 2012, 10:46 AM ET

ESPNNewYork.com

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New York Jets wide receiver Santonio Holmes "quit" on the team during the final two minutes of a season-ending loss to the Miami Dolphins on Sunday, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

 

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AP Photo/Lynne SladkySantonio Holmes was not on the field for the closing minutes of the Jets' season-ending loss, and a team source said the captain "quit" on his team.

 

 

"There were guys in the huddle not happy with Santonio's demeanor throughout the game and in the two-minute drill," said Jets running backLaDainian Tomlinson. "And they said something to him about it."

 

The Jets captain was yanked as his team tried to rally in the fourth quarter Sunday and avoid elimination from the playoff race. To compound the soap opera, coach Rex Ryan said he thought Holmes took himself out.

 

The Jets lost 19-17 to the Miami Dolphins. Following the spat with teammates, Holmes was replaced byPatrick Turner.

 

"It was a coach's call," Holmes said. "Patrick came in and tapped me on the shoulder and told me to come out."

 

The decision to bench Holmes was made by offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, a team source told ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini. Turner was sent in by wide receivers coach Henry Ellard.

 

"I looked out there and I was wondering why he wasn't out there myself," Ryan said. "No, I didn't bench Santonio. ... Somebody told me he was on the bench."

Ryan said he didn't want to comment further until he knows the particulars.

 

The team source told Schefter that Jets offensive tackle Wayne Hunter got into a shouting match with Holmes after the wide receiver said something the players resented in the huddle.

 

"It was definitely boiling" in the huddle, Tomlinson said. "Guys had had enough of it at that point."

According to Tomlinson, players said to Holmes, "C'mon, we still have a chance."

 

The Holmes blowup actually had been building. On the previous series, a veteran player sensed that Holmes wasn't into the game and told him to "go home," the team source told Cimini.

The same source said, "It's been boiling over all season."

 

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Said Holmes of the commotion in the huddle: "I can't explain what that was about. Emotions were running high on the field between two guys on the same team."

 

Tomlinson criticized Holmes for his "demeanor, body language -- not really into the game, feeling like it's over, feeling sorry for himself. We were still in the game."

 

"It's tough for guys to follow a captain who behaves in that manner," Tomlinson said. "When you are a captain, guys are looking for you to lead by example, and you have to play your tail off to the last play."

 

Holmes has developed a reputation in the locker room for not working hard during the week, the team source told Schefter.

 

Holmes, who was held without a catch for the first time in his 88-game career and was only targeted once, was asked if he thought he deserved to be removed from the game.

 

"I don't think I did. If it was my lack of jogging back to the huddle ... there were penalties and referees taking their time, so I shouldn't have to rush myself," he said.

 

But Turner said that "may have had something to do with the way he handled it."

 

Turner caught a 10-yard touchdown pass, but Miami then ran out the clock, ending New York's season.

 

The meltdown occurred in what was probably the final game of Tomlinson's Jets career, and possibly the end of his long NFL career as well.

 

"The worst thing that can happen (to a player) is when your teammates start to question your passion in the middle of a game," he said. "That's the worst thing. In that huddle, what you saw, guys looked in (Holmes') eyes and didn't see that fire in his eyes. Guys were turned off about that. We're all grown men. We don't have to like each other, but we must respect every man in that locker room in order to be successful. When that starts to slack a little bit, and continues to boil, that's what you get."

 

It's not the first time Holmes, who signed a five-year deal worth $45 million with the Jets last offseason, has been the focus of controversy this season. He twice called out the offensive line for not giving quarterback Mark Sanchez enough time to throw. At the time, right guard Brandon Moore said Holmes' comments "can have a fracturing effect" in the locker room. Moore also was disappointed Holmes made his negative opinions public since "that's not something a captain does."

 

The Jets failed to fulfill Ryan's pledge to win a Super Bowl title, with Sunday's loss eliminating them from the chase for an AFC wild-card berth.

 

The Jets (8-8) came into the game needing a win, along with losses by three other teams, to reach the playoffs. Instead, they finished the season with three consecutive defeats, a big step backward for a team that reached the AFC Championship Game each of the past two years.

 

When asked if the Jets gave sufficient effort, cornerback Antonio Cromartie said: "Uh, maybe on one side of the ball."

Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini, ESPNNewYork.com contributor Walter Villa and The Associated Press was used in this report.

[yanks9596]

Get him out of here.  He's not even that good. 

[Smashmouth]

jerk with 100 catches and 12 TD's gets more loot then nice guy with 34 catches and 3 td

 

Holmes cant even dream about 100 catches and 12 TD's the guy is an inconsistent POS

[yanks9596]

Worst #1 WR in the league.

 

Hm, I have to think about that.  Might actually be true.  Possibly.

[bitonti]

Worst #1 WR in the league.

 

Hm, I have to think about that.  Might actually be true.  Possibly.

 

 

cecil shorts/justin blackmon (susp) is pretty bleak

 

JMO Stephen Hill is the Jets WR1 despite Santonios big week, Hill was on pace for 1000 yard season. 

 

maybe Santonio saw the hospital pass Geno put on Hill and started having second thoughts. 

 

 

 

 

 

as Ben Franklin said "God helps those who help themselves"

[pointman]

OMGLOLERZ!!! HE IS STILL WEARING REEBOKS!!$#$#^%*&^( WHAT A TOOL!!!!!!!!

[Smashmouth]

cecil shorts/justin blackmon (susp) is pretty bleak

 

JMO Stephen Hill is the Jets WR1 despite Santonios big week, Hill was on pace for 1000 yard season. 

 

maybe Santonio saw the hospital pass Geno put on Hill and started having second thoughts. 

 

 

 

 

 

as Ben Franklin said "God helps those who help themselves"

 

Stop calling it a hospital pass that's a ridiculous statement that pass was 35 yards down field and QB's routinely thread the needle in those situations if your afraid to go up for those passes in traffic then DONT play WR in the NFL

[Lizard King]

Stop calling it a hospital pass that's a ridiculous statement that pass was 35 yards down field and QB's routinely thread the needle in those situations if your afraid to go up for those passes in traffic then DONT play WR in the NFL

He should not have thrown that ball above the chest and you know it.

[nodimwithere]

Maybe he would rather go back to the 0-4 Steelers, and try to catch passes from Roethlisberger.