CobraVerde Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 kinda wishing he never left...i really liked him when he was coaching us and it's a shame the organization didnt give him a legit shot just cause of that stupid fake spike...but would he be the same? Did he need to become the USC powerhouse to get another shot at the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 If Bill had never left Cleveland it's not a given that he'd have built the same dynasty there that he did with the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Carol who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Pete Carroll was/is a choad - 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Belichick is an absolutely brilliant coach, but there's a very good chance he's on his third team right now if Brady wasn't "discovered." If not for Wilson, Pete Carroll probably goes the role of Rex: good defense and run game, only to be unable to find major success without a QB. This isn't a pro-Rex argument from me, it's just that without finding an elite QB, I don't think any of these guys are talked about. Yea, Payton and Brees "bring out the best in each other," but if the two were separated, I'd put more money on Brees having continued success rather than Payton, and I think pretty highly of Payton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Still cant understand how they could have ever let him go. Losing him was worse than letting Revis walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 it goes to show a good QB will make any coach look great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Doesn't his team lead the NFL in players testing positive for PEDs? and this coming from the head coach of a great scandal he left behind at USC? Sounds like he learned a thing or two from his time with Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Every good coach has a good QB. Bill Walsh couldn't coach the sh*t Rex has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I attribute Carol's success at USC and Seattle to what Timothy Leary called "set and setting" rather than X's and O's. Dr. Tim would have been one hell of a HC and knew the critical nature of being in the right place, both literally and figuratively, when dropping acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 kinda wishing he never left...i really liked him when he was coaching us and it's a shame the organization didnt give him a legit shot just cause of that stupid fake spike...but would he be the same? Did he need to become the USC powerhouse to get another shot at the NFL? Fake spike wasnt Carols fault, it was that ridiculous OVERRATED, couldnt cover my aunt, would make Millner look like a pro-bowler, AARON GLENN. I will preface this however by saying their is no Jet player I loathe more than Aaron Glenn, He sucked, he was so overrated and even if they didnt fake spike it, he would have been beaten on the next play anyway. Hate is bad word to use but I hate Aaron Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Belichick is an absolutely brilliant coach, but there's a very good chance he's on his third team right now if Brady wasn't "discovered." If not for Wilson, Pete Carroll probably goes the role of Rex: good defense and run game, only to be unable to find major success without a QB. This isn't a pro-Rex argument from me, it's just that without finding an elite QB, I don't think any of these guys are talked about. Yea, Payton and Brees "bring out the best in each other," but if the two were separated, I'd put more money on Brees having continued success rather than Payton, and I think pretty highly of Payton. Good points. I think Belichick would still be with the Patriots. Bledsoe would have been a serviceable QB until Belichick could have drafted a safer QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Good points. I think Belichick would still be with the Patriots. Bledsoe would have been a serviceable QB until Belichick could have drafted a safer QB. It's definitely a possibility as I would never bet against his genius. However, I was more using it to illustrate my point that in this league, especially today's league, without a franchise QB your job is immensely more difficult, almost impossibly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 pete.jpg Still cant understand how they could have ever let him go. Losing him was worse than letting Revis walk. You have to admit that we needed a "dese and dose" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Belicheck went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. He had Cleveland on the verge of success before the move was announced. He would still be great without Brady. Pete Carroll benefited from his experiences, much the way I believe Mangini will someday do the same. Maybe the Jets can finally hire a coach on the right part of the curve this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Fake spike wasnt Carols fault, it was that ridiculous OVERRATED, couldnt cover my aunt, would make Millner look like a pro-bowler, AARON GLENN. I will preface this however by saying their is no Jet player I loathe more than Aaron Glenn, He sucked, he was so overrated and even if they didnt fake spike it, he would have been beaten on the next play anyway. Hate is bad word to use but I hate Aaron Glenn. ?????? Aaron Glenn??? He was one of the best corners to ever wear a Jets jersey. All American, 1st round draft pick three time probowler with a 15 year NFL career Aaron Glen? Yeah good idea. Lets blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He's a liar and cheat to the extent that he makes Beli and Bobby Kraft look honest. I wish him all things negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Fake spike wasnt Carols fault, it was that ridiculous OVERRATED, couldnt cover my aunt, would make Millner look like a pro-bowler, AARON GLENN. I will preface this however by saying their is no Jet player I loathe more than Aaron Glenn, He sucked, he was so overrated and even if they didnt fake spike it, he would have been beaten on the next play anyway. Hate is bad word to use but I hate Aaron Glenn. He was a good kick returner. You've got to at least give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 pete.jpg Still cant understand how they could have ever let him go. Losing him was worse than letting Revis walk. We didnt let Revis walk. We got Sheldon Richardson and a 3rd round pick this year for him. I dont call that "walking". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ?????? Aaron Glenn??? He was one of the best corners to ever wear a Jets jersey. All American, 1st round draft pick three time probowler with a 15 year NFL career Aaron Glen? Yeah good idea. Lets blame him. I knew this was coming,Yes, I know all about his awards, his pro-bowls etc. and I have one word: OVERRATED, and Marino schooled him that whole game and on the Fake spike. Just out of curiosity, when Expansion came and I believe it was the Texans, and Carolina (I think), well I know it was the Texans because the JETS did not protect him and off he went to the Texans. Why did the Jets not protect him? Because he sucked, he was overrated and got burned every week. As I said, I am biased as I loathe Aaaron Glenn more than any other forme Jet, and it was his faylt on the fake spike because MARINO knew he could dupe that overrated piece of crap. And if you want I can tell you how I really feel about Aaron Glenn in another post. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He was a good kick returner. You've got to at least give him that. Look , I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about that bum. Marino schooled him all game in the fake spike game and it was so appropriate that it was Glenn who got burned for the game winner. He was awful, could not cover but yet he seemed to be the Jets representative in the pro-bowl (each team had to have one). Then they dont protect him in the expansion draft, Good riddance. I could go on, but I might have cardiac arrest if I continue to write about that bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I knew this was coming,Yes, I know all about his awards, his pro-bowls etc. and I have one word: OVERRATED, and Marino schooled him that whole game and on the Fake spike. Just out of curiosity, when Expansion came and I believe it was the Texans, and Carolina (I think), well I know it was the Texans because the JETS did not protect him and off he went to the Texans. Why did the Jets not protect him? Because he sucked, he was overrated and got burned every week. As I said, I am biased as I loathe Aaaron Glenn more than any other forme Jet, and it was his faylt on the fake spike because MARINO knew he could dupe that overrated piece of crap. And if you want I can tell you how I really feel about Aaron Glenn in another post. Sorry. No, don't get me wrong. You have the right to loathe who you want. It's just weird to me that's all. There are so many former and even current jets worthy of disdain, Aaron Glen seems like a strange choice. Kind of like Austin Powers' dad being racist against the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 No, don't get me wrong. You have the right to loathe who you want. It's just weird to me that's all. There are so many former and even current jets worthy of disdain, Aaron Glen seems like a strange choice. Kind of like Austin Powers' dad being racist against the Dutch. Thanks for the understanding. Just for fun, here is my list of most Loathed, and most beloved: Most Loathed: 1. Aaron Glenn 2. Johnny "lam" Jones 3. Mark Sanchez Most Beloved: 1. Joe Namath 2. Al Toon 3. Joe Klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 kinda wishing he never left...i really liked him when he was coaching us and it's a shame the organization didnt give him a legit shot just cause of that stupid fake spike...but would he be the same? Did he need to become the USC powerhouse to get another shot at the NFL? Let's not forget that Pete Carroll failed in NE before becoming HC of USC. Belichick replaced Carroll who was fired by the Pats. Glad to see Pete having success in Seattle and I think his Seahawks are the best team in football right now. Let's not forget that John Idzik was there helping to build that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Look , I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about that bum. Marino schooled him all game in the fake spike game and it was so appropriate that it was Glenn who got burned for the game winner. He was awful, could not cover but yet he seemed to be the Jets representative in the pro-bowl (each team had to have one). Then they dont protect him in the expansion draft, Good riddance. I could go on, but I might have cardiac arrest if I continue to write about that bum. I never had a problem with Glenn, I had a problem with letting James Hasty go to KC where he flourished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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