CTM Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 People like Bit choose to think of the draft as pure luck, like roulette. If this is true,it's ******* insane that he runs a draft scouting site. Why doesn't he just post a animated gif of rolling dice under ever players profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If this is true,it's ******* insane that he runs a draft scouting site. Why doesn't he just post a animated gif of rolling dice under ever players profile It wasn't that difficult to realize Blaine Gabbert would suck in the NFL. It's not luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 It wasn't that difficult to realize Blaine Gabbert would suck in the NFL. It's not luck. Going back and looking at QB's, I'm not so sure: We have a littany of them strewn all over FIRED GMS backs. They have drafted FIRST overall, not just first round but FIRST overall the following: David Carr Tim Couch Jamarcus Russell Taken SECOND overall Ryan Leaf Taken THIRD overall: Joey Harrington Other first round DISASTERS: Mark Sanchez Todd Marinovich Andre Ware Matt Leinert Blaine Gabbert Brandon Weeden Rex Grossman Josh Freeman Christian Ponder Luckily now with the new Rookie wage scale, you dont completely blow up your franchise with a 1st round QB disaster, amking it even more perplexing that back when it did basically ruin your franchise for about 5 years, that so many GM's and Coaches blew it on QB selections. I dont know if it is luck, but when it comes to choosing a first roung QB, I'd much rather be LUCKY than not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 who would take his place??and do we keep the OC?? i like rex but we cant be so hot (beat the pats and the saints) then loose to the bills,fins and the steelers. having no playmakers on O is not helping rex or geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 2. it might 3. how do you gain this evidence for any team, in any sport, with any coach? my assumption is that by the sheer fact he's a HC at the highest level, he's probably pretty good at it, and his players have said he's great at it 4. are you asking which non-first round players have flourished? not sure. but there's a bunch of examples if thats what you're asking...currently, Harrison, Davis, Allen, Harris, are all playing very well. He made careers for guys like Pouha, Leonhard, DeVito, Ropati, Westerman, there's probably more too just cant think of them all right now 3. Well, therein lies the point. If you're going to use "motivational ability" as a supporting argument for Rex, you'd have to make the assumption that he motivates players significantly better than your average coach. I'm just not sure that's true. That's not a dig on Rex, I just think the "master motivator" argument is nonsense now just as it was with Herm Edwards. 4. Yes, was asking about what non-first rounders. I think you're being generous with your list, but the overarching point is, I'm not sure Rex is doing anything special in developing players that we would lose were we to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 3. Well, therein lies the point. If you're going to use "motivational ability" as a supporting argument for Rex, you'd have to make the assumption that he motivates players significantly better than your average coach. I'm just not sure that's true. That's not a dig on Rex, I just think the "master motivator" argument is nonsense now just as it was with Herm Edwards. 4. Yes, was asking about what non-first rounders. I think you're being generous with your list, but the overarching point is, I'm not sure Rex is doing anything special in developing players that we would lose were we to replace him. The motivator stuff is really crap. It's a very long season that's preceded by a long training camp and off season. The idea some brilliant speech is going to win NFL games is nonsense on stitts. You win or lsoe with preparation all the way back to OTAs and practice and gameplaning and film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Nugent was a kicker taken #47 overall. He's one of the worst picks in NFL history. his career is way better than worst pick in NFL history. he wasn't a fit in NY. he goes back to Ohio and becomes the man again. it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 his career is way better than worst pick in NFL history. he wasn't a fit in NY. he goes back to Ohio and becomes the man again. it happens. He's a kicker. Taken at #47 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Most players like playing for Rex because is one of the guys- one of his major faults IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That 24 jersey guy creeped me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I love how Wrecks instills discipline on this team, I mean you don't lead the NFL in pre snap penalties for nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The Jets beat a great Raiders team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Stoicsentry, in his garage, repurposing an old hutch to become a new soapbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Stoicsentry, in his garage, repurposing an old hutch to become a new soapbox. Are you sure he isnt masturbating to a picture of Rex and Woody? it was probably a HUGE release for the guy. hes probablyy cleaning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Are you sure he isnt masturbating to a picture of Rex and Woody? it was probably a HUGE release for the guy. hes probablyy cleaning up. He's not cleaning that up. He's leaving that on the wall and dating it like he's Jackson Pollock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 this place is dead after a Jets win. bad for Max's post counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 this place is dead after a Jets win. We're all out celebrating the Pats' win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 this place is dead after a Jets win. bad for Max's post counts Crazy what having your season end before Week Eleven for three years in a row does to fan interest. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Crazy what having your season end before Week Eleven for three years in a row does to fan interest. . Fake fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 We won which is good- beat a team with more issues than we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Where was Rex's stout defense today by the way- the offense actually won today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Where was Rex's stout defense today by the way- the offense actually won today's game. This is where a hated coach (by some) can't win no matter what. The Jets could win 14 games like this, and you guys would call for Rex to be fired, and replace him with the Offensive Coordinator! Only way any of you will be happy is if the Jets win every game 56-0 with 500 yards of offense, and negative 100 yards against, it's a joke! The Jets beat a bad team at home today, there was 2 broken plays for TD's from a defense with 8 players who didn't start last year, it happens, give it a rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is where a hated coach (by some) can't win no matter what. The Jets could win 14 games like this, and you guys would call for Rex to be fired If we can beat up on the Raiders 14 games a year I'd be totally happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I get pissed unless we win every game 57-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I get pissed unless we win every game 57-0. See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The Jets beat a bad team at home today, there was 2 broken plays for TD's from a defense with 8 players who didn't start last year, it happens, give it a rest! I'd be happy with the win if we hadn't spent the previous 3 weeks getting stomped by beatable teams to the tune of -59 net points, pushing us out of the playoff race and into top 5 pick discussions. All this W does is help put us back in no-man's land. Nowhere near being a contender and also quite a distance away from Teddy Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 See YOU TOTES GOT HIM THERE BRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'd be happy with the win if we hadn't spent the previous 3 weeks getting stomped by beatable teams to the tune of -59 net points, pushing us out of the playoff race and into top 5 pick discussions. All this W does is help put us back in no-man's land. Nowhere near being a contender and also quite a distance away from Teddy Bridgewater. I agree with everything you say here, I just don't agree that it's all Rex's fault, and would like to give him 2 more years with a revamped roster, hate starting from scratch, unless the system is some amazing top notch system, or a great QB comes with the new change its 3 more years of rebuilding, and if that hasn't worked yet rinse repeat, the Jets have been doing this for 45 years, I would like to give the Pitt, NYG, way a try for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I agree with everything you say here, I just don't agree that it's all Rex's fault, and would like to give him 2 more years with a revamped roster, hate starting from scratch, unless the system is some amazing top notch system, or a great QB comes with the new change its 3 more years of rebuilding, and if that hasn't worked yet rinse repeat, the Jets have been doing this for 45 years, I would like to give the Pitt, NYG, way a try for once. In Pittsburgh and with the Giants, the HC seems largely irrelevant. I've never found Coughlin's approach one that would work in most places, and Tomlin seems like a moron a lot of the time. The difference are the superior owners and front offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 ^I think he was talking about cower but I suppose the case could be made for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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