SenorGato Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not a big deal - the guy was arguably the worst player on the team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 As opposed to fixing things through, what... hanging out with Eric Decker all day? Sorry, you are right - we should have handed a new contract back to Cromartie. Better to lock up salary and years on a guy who looked done last year, especially now that the pre-season is over and there's absolutely no chance of us adding more talent to the team. Overpaying for CBs just might not be something Idzik believes in. Seattle has studs they got in mid-rounds. He opted not to pay Revis, twice, and didn't spend like a drunken fan over the past 48 hours on a CB... my guess is that we can expect some plug-ins, and for him to draft the future of the positions. So, you look at guys like Jabari Greer, coming of an ACL tear, probably a candidate for a 1-year contract. Or Carlos Rogers, who is late in his career and knows that he's at the point of 1-2 year contracts and team-hopping. Add a couple guys like them, and then draft the future of the position. It's really not as dramatic as you are making it out to be. Not one team in the NFL has high-profile players and expensive free agents at every positions dude, sometimes you have to plug in some veterans and get whatever they've got left out of them. LOL Better to pay for a year of service from a guy like Rogers, than to sink multi-years into Cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Milliner and Walls can handle the job. Wilson stays at slot. Draft some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not a big deal - the guy was arguably the worst player on the team last year. This seems to be what the whiners want to overlook today... it fits the narrative of "we haven't done anything". I consider NOT panicking and bringing Cro back addition by subtraction. As I said above, go get a 1 year stop-gap, and draft someone. Brain surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We're going to sign a corner at some point aren't we? I would have to think.. DRC is the last one that stands out to me. Is there anyone else? I hear that DRC wants real money. If they were going to spend like that they'd have paid up for Revis or at least Verner. Terrell Brown is out there and Peanut Tillman. Assante Samuel might not be bad on a cheap one year deal. He'd be a worst case 3rd corner and might have value as a ballhawk long yardage safety - the role I'd have expected Reed to play last season. Because Idzik may not feel that there is a corner which fits into his long-term plans that is worth throwing money at. We could have $100 million and it wouldn't change this. Outside of Cromartie, who's play will be the easiest to replace, we haven't lost anyone that our recent signings doesn't make up for or drastically improve. We signed the best FA available at our most glaring position of need. The fact that we did that and still have $30 million in cap space, before cutting Mark, should be a good thing. Maybe Idzik wants to carry some over because he's already planning on resigning Mo Wilk to a deal at the end of the year? He's got a plan and it doesn't involve spending all the cap just because he has space. Well, that hip deal may be chronic. That is why he sucked a year or two with the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Here is the list: Cornerbacks 1. Darrelle Revis (Signed one-year, $12M deal with NE) 2. Brent Grimes (Re-signed four-year, $32M deal with MIA) 3. Aqib Talib (Signed six-year, $57M deal with DEN) 4. Alterraun Verner (Signed four-year, $25.5M deal with TB) 5. Vontae Davis (Re-signed four-year, $39M deal with IND) 6. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 7. Sam Shields (Re-signed four-year, $39M deal with GB) 8. Walter Thurmond III 9. Charles Tillman 10. Antonio Cromartie 11. Tarell Brown 12. Captain Munnerlyn (Signed three-year, $14.25M deal with MIN) 13. DeAngelo Hall (Re-signed four-year, $17M deal with WAS) 14. Corey Graham (Signed four-year, $16M deal with BUF) 15. Derek Cox (Signed one-year deal with MIN) 16. Chris Cook 17. Terrell Thomas 18. Carlos Rogers 19. Dimitri Patterson 20. Brandon Browner 21. Champ Bailey 22. Asante Samuel 23. Jabari Greer 24. Trumaine McBride (Re-signed two-year, $3.1M deal with NYG) 25. Will Blackmon (Re-signed two-year, $1.875M deal with JAX) 26. Drayton Florence 27. Antoine Cason 28. Rashean Mathis 29. Josh Wilson 30. Tracy Porter (Signed undisclosed deal with WAS) 31. Richard Marshall 32. Nolan Carroll (Signed two-year, $5.2M deal with PHI) 33. Cortland Finnegan 34. E.J. Biggers 35. Brice McCain 36. Quentin Jammer 37. Corey Webster 38. Kelvin Hayden (Re-signed one-year, $840K deal with CHI) 39. Dunta Robinson 40. Mike Jenkins I don't know what the whining is about. I think there should be at least 1-2 guys that bring enough to the table to help out in Rex's system... especially if the pass rush keeps getting more dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Chowds Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We're going to sign a corner at some point aren't we? I would have to think.. DRC is the last one that stands out to me. Is there anyone else? Walter Thurmond and Tarell Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Was very pleasantly pleased with Cro's tenure here, but I'd much rather quit on a guy like him a little too early than too late. In his prime, he got away with sh*t because he's a freak athlete and was able to recover from mistakes. I also don't think the Jets were particularly motivated to bring him back. Jets know what they had in Cromartie and made little effort to bring him back, which is pretty telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Walter Thurmond and Tarell Brown Charles Tillman, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Browner could be added to that list (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Charles Tillman, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Browner could be added to that list (IMO) NOBODY LEFT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Was very pleasantly pleased with Cro's tenure here, but I'd much rather quit on a guy like him a little too early than too late. In his prime, he got away with sh*t because he's a freak athlete and was able to recover from mistakes. I also don't think the Jets were particularly motivated to bring him back. Jets know what they had in Cromartie and made little effort to bring him back, which is pretty telling. A novel thought, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 NOBODY LEFT!!!! TANKING FOR JAMEIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 NOBODY LEFT!!!! Not a big fan of that list, unless it means we're doing it on the cheap and spending the big bucks on other needs instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 A novel thought, huh? A lot of people said the same thing about Cotchery. How's that workin for ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Browner to teh Pats. They aren't getting Brady those receivers, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not a big fan of that list, unless it means we're doing it on the cheap and spending the big bucks on other needs instead. You were that kid that thought the more your parents spent on you, the more they loved you, weren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 A lot of people said the same thing about Cotchery. How's that workin for ya? When you're using Jerricho Cotchery to back up your point, I know I've already won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Browner to teh Pats. They aren't getting Brady those receivers, that's for sure. Pats and Broncos are both building to kill each other... I'll laugh my ass off if neither of them reaches the AFCC game again. Arrogant bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have to get DRC...how much could this guy really want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Here is the list: Cornerbacks 33. Cortland Finnegan I don't know what the whining is about. I think there should be at least 1-2 guys that bring enough to the table to help out in Rex's system... especially if the pass rush keeps getting more dominant. Someone said Idzik likes nasty players. This guy is NASTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pats and Broncos are both building to kill each other... I'll laugh my ass off if neither of them reaches the AFCC game again. Arrogant bastards. Don't see how either of them beats whoever comes out of the NFC regardless...but if you get there you have a chance. Still...during both of their windows the Seahawks and 49ers should be completely together, still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have to get DRC...how much could this guy really want More than Freddy Coupon...Err I mean Idzik is willing to pay. Players getting signed left and right and Idzik is on the sideline watching the parade go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I still can't believe someone just argued that we should hold on to Antonio Cromartie because he could turn out to be our next Jerricho Cotchery. I mean....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I still can't believe someone just argued that we should hold on to Antonio Cromartie because he could turn out to be our next Jerricho Cotchery. I mean....LOL You mean, have two sh*tty years before he rebounds to have a mediocre one? Yea, that one's gonna sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I still can't believe someone just argued that we should hold on to Antonio Cromartie because he could turn out to be our next Jerricho Cotchery. I mean....LOL LOL..No wonder Idzik is saying we need 40 mil to sign draft pics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have to get DRC...how much could this guy really want He was talking about retirement after the Super Bowl. Not exactly the mentality I want to chase down for our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have to get DRC...how much could this guy really want Someone posted that he wanted at least the money Talib got or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd just like to point out something. These are ypg team offense and defense rankings for the regular seasons since Rex has been a coach here... 2009: Jets Offense Rank: 20 Jets Defense Rank: 1 2010: Jets Offense Rank: 11 Jets Defense Rank: 3 2011: Jets Offense Rank: 25 Jets Defense Rank: 5 2012: Jets Offense Rank: 30 Jets Defense Rank: 8 2013: Jets Offense Rank: 25 Jets Defense Rank: 11 And yet some of you are somehow convinced that we are in desperate need of a corner in FA more than anything and are luke-warm on signing Decker. I mean seriously, we've fielded top 10 defenses every year except for last year when we were 11th with or without Revis. We've fielded a top 16 offense once during Rex's tenure here just once and have generally been at the bottom of the barrel. Maybe, just maybe, we'd be better off trying to improve our pathetic offensive teams instead of getting incremental returns on our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Someone posted that he wanted at least the money Talib got or something like that. Offer $8 mil and make the contract stipulate it's a yr. to yr. deal, like Revis so if he feels like retiring, we'll help him out with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If it turns out that Cro is actually deteriorating, rather than just having a bad season, he'll get absolutely eaten alive playing opposite Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Sorry, you are right - we should have handed a new contract back to Cromartie. Better to lock up salary and years on a guy who looked done last year, especially now that the pre-season is over and there's absolutely no chance of us adding more talent to the team. Overpaying for CBs just might not be something Idzik believes in. Seattle has studs they got in mid-rounds. He opted not to pay Revis, twice, and didn't spend like a drunken fan over the past 48 hours on a CB... my guess is that we can expect some plug-ins, and for him to draft the future of the positions. So, you look at guys like Jabari Greer, coming of an ACL tear, probably a candidate for a 1-year contract. Or Carlos Rogers, who is late in his career and knows that he's at the point of 1-2 year contracts and team-hopping. Add a couple guys like them, and then draft the future of the position. It's really not as dramatic as you are making it out to be. Not one team in the NFL has high-profile players and expensive free agents at every positions dude, sometimes you have to plug in some veterans and get whatever they've got left out of them. LOL Better to pay for a year of service from a guy like Rogers, than to sink multi-years into Cromartie. What you got against drunken fans we are experts at overpaying from paying thousands on PSLs and 11 bucks a beer at snoopy stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Cya Cro! Freddy Coupon strikes again! Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 3h Hearing from a team source that right now, Jets won't try to match current offer from Cardinals for Cromartie. #nyjets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 You have been around here just as long as me, haven't you? So haven't you seen me post before? What you suggest is the opposite of the truth, I'm never with the whiners. So I disagree with Idzik's approach during this off-season and all of the sudden I'm a chronic whiner? LOL You're not a chronic whiner, you're a perpetual one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd just like to point out something. These are ypg team offense and defense rankings for the regular seasons since Rex has been a coach here... 2009: Jets Offense Rank: 20 Jets Defense Rank: 1 2010: Jets Offense Rank: 11 Jets Defense Rank: 3 2011: Jets Offense Rank: 25 Jets Defense Rank: 5 2012: Jets Offense Rank: 30 Jets Defense Rank: 8 2013: Jets Offense Rank: 25 Jets Defense Rank: 11 And yet some of you are somehow convinced that we are in desperate need of a corner in FA more than anything and are luke-warm on signing Decker. I mean seriously, we've fielded top 10 defenses every year except for last year when we were 11th with or without Revis. We've fielded a top 16 offense once during Rex's tenure here just once and have generally been at the bottom of the barrel. Maybe, just maybe, we'd be better off trying to improve our pathetic offensive teams instead of getting incremental returns on our defense. D ranked 11 in 2013 but the secondary was probably the worst. The D line is what rocked and balanced out that ranking. We desperately need a top flight corner and a top flight safety and we will be a top 5 D in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Offer $8 mil and make the contract stipulate it's a yr. to yr. deal, like Revis so if he feels like retiring, we'll help him out with that. I was wrong. He was already offered the Talib deal and turned it down. But you say we should offer him less than the amount he turned down...and make it a 1 year deal...for a team like the 2014 Jets who aren't in superbowl-or-bust mode... Compelling. Cya Cro! Freddy Coupon strikes again! Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 3h Hearing from a team source that right now, Jets won't try to match current offer from Cardinals for Cromartie. #nyjets Seriously, you wanted the Jets to re-sign Cromartie? Or do you just want them to burn the cap space for the sake of doing so? Before the Cardinals contract numbers get released, what do you think he's worth to the Jets? What contract? (how many years, how much per year, how much guaranteed). I'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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