MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 The Seahawks were the only one that won the Super Bowl last year. Only a handful of teams are spending serious coin this offseason. 2 of them are the Browns and Raiders. Are those the organizations we should be following? Absolutely not, regarding the Raiders & Browns. Boston won a world series based on their own way, does that mean every team can replicate their success? No...Not even close, otherwise, all the teams would be doing it. The Jets at the very least should have upgraded at cornerback with Verner or Davis by now, the fact that they aren't doing much is rather sign of Idzik is in over his head or he's playing poker by himself. There comes a time when "his way of doing things" is more out of ignorance and he'll only shoot himself in the foot in the long run. Sure, stick to your guns, sign nobody each year because you don't think a player is worth it, that player will find a home and we'll have table scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If the Jets won 4 games last year I'd agree...But at 8 wins with an offense that was laughable and 40 mil to spend plus draft, no reason they shouldn't be pushing for it all this year provided they actually plugged up their needs which they clearly are not doing. Last year was a bit of a mirage. They won at least two games very late due to penalty luck. They did not out talent anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If we were able to bring in Sanders or Jones and a blocking TE, and maybe DRC, that would content me, as far as FA is concerned. I am convinced that they are looking for a good safety in the draft, not just a box guy. As good as our defense can be, it does not get TOs. Press corners don't get as many INTs. We need a safety who can cover and make plays. Good 3-4 defenses in the past like the Ravens and Steelers, had that element. Rex's don't.I agree with every word except DRC, Dont want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 No I'm trying to model success . So Seattle is the only team the past 48 years to win a Super Bowl? There way or no way? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 what are you stupid? Oh yea you are LOL, I honestly have to keep checking if you've been banned ye so I know whether or not we need a replacement for the Mock Draft next week. You're like the prize fighter of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 LOL, I honestly have to keep checking if you've been banned ye so I know whether or not we need a replacement for the Mock Draft next week. You're like the prize fighter of the board. More like Spider Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I agree with every word except DRC, Dont want him. he is not great. But he probably is better than the real Cromartie at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 More like Spider Rico nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 nice. Nice!...hey Rock, you got lucky tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 So Seattle is the only team the past 48 years to win a Super Bowl? There way or no way? Really? Every Super Bowl team in the Free Agent era has been built similarly; through the draft, while not overspending in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Every Super Bowl team in the Free Agent era has been built similarly; through the draft, while not overspending in free agency. You somehow missed the points I made when I said every team builds through the draft. The good teams make moves, the bad ones shop in the fruits and nuts section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 You somehow missed the points I made when I said every team builds through the draft. The good teams make moves, the bad ones shop in the fruits and nuts section. The Packers haven't made a single big splash free agent signing. Nor have the 49ers. Or Seahawks. They're waiting for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 The Packers haven't made a single big splash free agent signing. Nor have the 49ers. Or Seahawks. They're waiting for the draft. Seattle needs what 2 dudes on Dline and one on Oline ? Yes, when you don't have many needs you can wait on the draft, the jets would need 3 draft classes and maybe even then would still need be missing pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Seattle needs what 2 dudes on Dline and one on Oline ? Yes, when you don't have many needs you can wait on the draft, the jets would need 3 draft classes and maybe even then would still need be missing pieces. Exactly. We have more needs than can be filled by 2 or 3 pricey free agents. So it's better to make smart pickups and look for impact players in the draft. As you build your roster, the money we saved now will be used to keep around the talent we have, like Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson. Plus, hopefully, our franchise QB (whoever that might be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Every Super Bowl team in the Free Agent era has been built similarly; through the draft, while not overspending in free agency. there is no way this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 They got Richard Sherman in the 5th. Was that luck too? And Earl Thomas in the 6th. All luck? maybe you mean Brandon Browner? Earl Thomas was drafted mid first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd say that Idzik isn't going all in for 2014, but is attempting to build a roster to compete for the next five years. He's signing young, young players and ignoring old ones so far. Untrue. Giacomini is three years OLDER than Howard. It is common knowledge that you TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN FIRST. Howard was an ascending player while Giacomini is a lesser talent and older. But at least he will make less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewPLP Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Exactly. We have more needs than can be filled by 2 or 3 pricey free agents. So it's better to make smart pickups and look for impact players in the draft. As you build your roster, the money we saved now will be used to keep around the talent we have, like Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson. Plus, hopefully, our franchise QB (whoever that might be). We could plug a few holes without breaking the bank and then use the draft for the other missing parts. Fact is, Idzik isn't really improving the team. Signing 1 wideout is hardly something to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Thank God for the negative rep button, I am having a blast this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 there is no way this is true. Name 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Untrue. Giacomini is three years OLDER than Howard. It is common knowledge that you TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN FIRST. Howard was an ascending player while Giacomini is a lesser talent and older. But at least he will make less money. Howard is not worth what he got by half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 You want to pay Howard as top 5 OT- glad you do not handle my finances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 LOL, I honestly have to keep checking if you've been banned ye so I know whether or not we need a replacement for the Mock Draft next week. You're like the prize fighter of the board. Probably smart to have a backup lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's Sept 2014 and the Jets have 30 Mil in cap space....Hell even 20 mil... Could it happen? Yep, If they cut Sanchez and their cap will be around 44 Mil as of now. If that happens, I'll tell Woody and Freddy Coupon to shove their season ticke** up their ass and refuse to pay the licensing fee for seat. What say you? Be honest, you walk around wearing a bluetooth headset and use a cell phone holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's like a revolving door. Weird. jw78 leaves and Matthew enters... Can you have a revolving door that only exits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Probably smart to have a backup lined up. Will a mod let me know in case I miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Name 1. Well let's see... XLVIII -- Seattle Seahawks, built through draft XLVII -- Baltimore Ravens, built through draft XLVI -- New York Giants, built through draft XLV -- Green Bay Packers, built through draft XLIV -- New Orleans Saints, debatable -- biggest piece was a FA (Brees). Could make an argument this team was built through FA. XLIII -- Pittsburgh Steelers, built through draft XLII -- New York Giants, built through draft XLI -- Indianapolis Colts, built through draft XL -- Pittsburgh Steelers, built through draft XXXIX -- New England Patriots, built through draft XXXVIII -- New England Patriots, built through draft XXXVII -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers, admittedly I'm a bit foggy on them...but I feel like they were a D built through the draft no? XXXVI -- New England Patriots, built by Mo Lewis XXXV -- Baltimore Ravens, built through the draft XXXIV -- St. Louis Rams, mostly built through draft. Kurt Warner was no big time FA pickup, Marshall Faulk was traded for. Their other pieces (Bruce, Holt, Pace, etc) were drafted XXXIII -- Denver Broncos, built through the draft XXXII -- Denver Broncos, built through the draft XXXI -- Green Bay Packers, built through the draft After that, you get to the Cowboys/NFC ownage for about 10 years. Regardless, the point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Let's count New Orleans, given that their biggest piece was a big time FA add. If we concede the St. Louis Rams, ignoring that Faulk was traded for and Warner was signed for nothing originally...that's two. Three if the Buc's were built through free agency, which I can't remember. I know the team they beat (a running theme in the list of Super Bowl losers, if you'd like me to post that list), the Raiders, were built through free agency...just don't remember them. edit: Doing an eyeball test, it looks like the number of Super Bowl losers that built through FA is around 25%. So, still not all that high TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 But yes...sign all the free agents ever. It, like, so totally works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ok. So when will the thread start where we start to look at free agents for the 2015 season? C'mon JoeWillie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 XXXVI -- New England Patriots, built by Mo Lewis lol....fck me, I still remember that game like yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 lol....fck me, I still remember that game like yesterday I fell for the trap. Now even the optimists are miserable as visions of Mo Lewis send us to the corner crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well let's see... XLVIII -- Seattle Seahawks, built through draft XLVII -- Baltimore Ravens, built through draft XLVI -- New York Giants, built through draft XLV -- Green Bay Packers, built through draft XLIV -- New Orleans Saints, debatable -- biggest piece was a FA (Brees). Could make an argument this team was built through FA. XLIII -- Pittsburgh Steelers, built through draft XLII -- New York Giants, built through draft XLI -- Indianapolis Colts, built through draft XL -- Pittsburgh Steelers, built through draft XXXIX -- New England Patriots, built through draft XXXVIII -- New England Patriots, built through draft XXXVII -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers, admittedly I'm a bit foggy on them...but I feel like they were a D built through the draft no? XXXVI -- New England Patriots, built by Mo Lewis XXXV -- Baltimore Ravens, built through the draft XXXIV -- St. Louis Rams, mostly built through draft. Kurt Warner was no big time FA pickup, Marshall Faulk was traded for. Their other pieces (Bruce, Holt, Pace, etc) were drafted XXXIII -- Denver Broncos, built through the draft XXXII -- Denver Broncos, built through the draft XXXI -- Green Bay Packers, built through the draft After that, you get to the Cowboys/NFC ownage for about 10 years. Regardless, the point stands. And the thing is, the Saints didn't overpay for Brees. The rest of their roster was carved out mostly via the draft. Draft and SMART signings (with minimal or no overpays). That's how you build a roster. Every champion has done it that way. Great work, Purple Pirate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 And the thing is, the Saints didn't overpay for Brees. The rest of their roster was carved out mostly via the draft. Draft and SMART signings (with minimal or no overpays). That's how you build a roster. Every champion has done it that way. Great work, Purple Pirate. Just doing my part, trolling hard everywhere I go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's Sept 2014 and the Jets have 30 Mil in cap space....Hell even 20 mil... Could it happen? Yep, If they cut Sanchez and their cap will be around 44 Mil as of now. If that happens, I'll tell Woody and Freddy Coupon to shove their season ticke** up their ass and refuse to pay the licensing fee for seat. What say you? Ummm... it's not going to happen so I don't have to worry about it. Teams are required to spend 89.9% of the salary cap so the most cap room the Jets can have come September is about 13.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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