Klecko73isGod Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/160747/inside-slant-julian-edelman-looked-concussed-was-he GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Julian Edelman scored the winning touchdown in Super Bowl XLIX. In light of the NFL's current climate, however, it's fair to wonder if he should have been on the field for the 3-yard score that accounted for the final margin in the New England Patriots' 28-24 victory over the Seattle Seahawks. This night will be forever remembered, of course, for an interception that stymied the Seahawks at the goal line with 20 seconds remaining. But earlier in the fourth quarter, Edelman had been staggered by a crushing hit from Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor. He appeared unsteady on multiple occasions, crawling after one tackle and slow to rise after another. Was he tested for a concussion? Was he simply responding to an aggravated hip injury? No one from the Patriots would say. The NFL announced last week that diagnosed concussions dropped 25 percent during the 2014 regular season, but the sight of a player stumbling around after a big hit lit up social media and called into question why he wasn't removed for a comprehensive concussion test. [+] Enlarge Robert Deutsch/USA TODAY SportsJulian Edelman bounced back from a big hit by safety Kam Chancellor to score the game-winning TD. Players suspected of having suffered concussions are prohibited from speaking to the media, but Edelman answered questions for more than 20 minutes Sunday night. He also performed the “I’m going to Disneyland” postgame commercial and is scheduled to appear there Tuesday. Asked whether he was woozy or had submitted to a concussion test on the sideline, Edelman twice invoked the Patriots’ steely in-house rules. "We're not allowed to speak about injuries right now," he said. One reporter asked Edelman if he remembered the remainder of the possession after the Chancellor hit. "Yes, I do," he said with a smile. "I remember that we scored." Coach Bill Belichick, speaking at roughly the same time in a different room, was not asked about the hit on Edelman, based on interview transcripts. Offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels said he saw Edelman take a "big hit" but "didn't have any sense" that he was impaired or otherwise not at full strength. "I was just calling the game," McDaniels said, "and until they tell me that somebody is out, I don't really change my thought process." The question is whether someone should have told McDaniels just that. With 10 minutes, 58 seconds remaining in the game, Edelman cut across the middle of the field and caught a pass from Tom Brady. Chancellor's hit connected with Edelman's upper body -- and possibly his helmet -- and knocked him back at an awkward angle. He staggered to his feet and ran another 12 yards before falling on his own. (Referee Bill Vinovich ruled Edelman was down by contact at the 49-yard line after a 21-yard gain on third-and-14.) Three plays later, Edelman caught another 21-yard pass before going down at the 4-yard line. He crawled on the ground for several seconds before teammates helped him up. On the next play, Edelman was slow to rise after he hit his head on the ground following an unsuccessful attempt to make a catch in the end zone. The NFL's concussion protocol lists these symptoms, among others, as "potential concussion signs" that should be evaluated: Slow to get up following a hit to the head ("hit to the head" may include secondary contact with the playing surface); Motor coordination/balance problems (stumbles, trips/falls, slow/labored movement) Those symptoms don't mean a player has suffered a concussion, but the NFL encourages further investigation upon observing them. If a team's medical staff doesn't notice them, the league has an independent medical official in the press box who can alert the sideline. That person twice radioed the Patriots' sideline to warn of Edelman's symptoms, according to a Detroit Free Press reporter who was sitting in the press box and could hear the conversation. To be clear, we don't know for sure Edelman wasn't checked. We also shouldn't be so naïve as to assume a competitive player would volunteer concussion symptoms in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. But we know he didn't miss any snaps during that period. Meanwhile, there wasn't much time to conduct a full test with medical personnel during the Seahawks' ensuing possession, which lasted 1:02. Edelman caught three passes for 33 yards and the touchdown after the Chancellor hit. Overall, he caught nine passes for 109 yards and a touchdown. Speaking with reporters afterward, he acknowledged he was "exhausted like everyone else" and at one point referred to "Seattle" as "St. Louis" before correcting himself. Tears formed in his eyes when he was asked about his father, whom he said "has always had my back." There were no doctors in the audience, and concussions are far from an exact science. Symptoms can ebb and flow and present themselves days after the hit. What looks like a concussion can, in fact, be a reaction to pain in another part of the body. (Edelman dealt with a hip injury this season.) But we know this: A wild NFL season concluded with a key player lurching around the field after taking a big hit. Stay tuned on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 They wouldn't have done that...it's against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The Patriots have no rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I believe the NFL assigned an independent head injury specialist for each team during the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Typical day at the office for the Pats. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The Patriots have no rules Scrambled eggs for brains all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 In real time it looked like his brain got bashed but if you replay that hit in super slow mo, Kam lowers his shoulder into the guy's chest. If the head was involved it was in a whiplash scenario. Edelman was probably woozy and in pain but not concussed that's my 5 cent not a doctor diagnosis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loluchka80 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 sweet. does that mean the seahawks won the super bowl now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well using the Russell Wilson baseline from the Green Bay game, Julien did not "take off" the next three quarters and continued to execute a high level. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well using the Russell Wilson baseline from the Green Bay game, Julien did not "take off" the next three quarters and continued to execute a high level. Next. ummm they kicked avril out of game and it was far less than edelmans hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well using the Russell Wilson baseline from the Green Bay game, Julien did not "take off" the next three quarters and continued to execute a high level. Next. Talk about beast mode? For me, Edelman was the man of the game. Incredible intensity and focus. Kid is a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 ummm they kicked avril out of game and it was far less than edelmans hit. He was on the ground. Edelman got up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 He was on the ground. Edelman got up. really! heh that didn't cause the loss anyway, Bevell giftwrapped game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 if that is the play I am thinking about I thought it was a helmet to helmet shot on a defenseless WR that didn't get flagged so I guess it's even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Letting concussed players play is something only Belicheat and Tom Lady wood dew. No honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFavoriteMartin28 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Who cares any receiver would have scored on that play tharold simon just played piss poor defense...Seahawks have no one to blame but them selves...If LT. Dan was my running back I'd still run the ball three times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckomania Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Edelman will be dribbling Letting concussed players play is something only Belicheat and Tom Lady wood dew. No honor. Just ask Wes Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 But meanwhile the Hawks lost Avril to concussion tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The Patriots broke the rules? Get out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Bottom Line is they won. Game Over. To obsess over whether they cheated or did not follow the rules....is folly. They cheat, they ride that thin line between compliance with rules and looking for loop holes and cheating. The Pats won and no violation of a concussion rule will change the outcome. I love how these "sportswriters" obsess over something that doesn't matter. Game is over, focus on the next year and what teams will need to do to overcome the Pats. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 really! heh that didn't cause the loss anyway, Bevell giftwrapped game No doubt. All I am saying, Edelman popped up. Avril, who I think was hit harder by Bolden, was on the ground for a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Edelman passed a test. http://nesn.com/2015/02/report-julian-edelman-cleared-to-play-after-passing-concussion-test/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 really! heh that didn't cause the loss anyway, Bevell giftwrapped game 2014 NFL World Champions!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Edelman passed a test. http://nesn.com/2015/02/report-julian-edelman-cleared-to-play-after-passing-concussion-test/ quit derailing threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 quit derailing threads! Damn annoying trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 "You think rock-hitting game hurt Thag head?" "Here million apples. Thag fine." -Locker room conversation, 10,000 BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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