Jetster Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Let's hope Mac gets right to cutting the losers on this roster, (All of the TEs on the roster sans Amaro), Ridley, Pace, ect. While I don't see us being a huge presence in Free Agency, I do see Mac zeroing in on some needs in FA & I'd like him to target 2 players that would be perfect for the direction we're going who won't break the bank, (I call them twofers) players you might be able to sign for the price of 1 higher profile FA. My 1st target would be Travis Benjamin if the Browns fail to resign him or give him a 2nd round tag. Benjamin if you remember is a burner who smoked the Jets deep in the opener last year, but is also a really good returner that can put some zip in our special teams. My 2nd target is Ladarious Green at TE. With Amaro coming back, every TE left on this roster could be cut, since Enunwa plays the Hback part. Green is another redzone target, plus Chan could put together some "Big" sets with Green, Amaro & Enunwa. If you look at San Diego they've basically had one really good receiver who got hurt last year. Green on the field with Marshall & Decker, is a whole lotta trouble in the middle of the field. That's a damn good trio of players substituting for each other with no real drop off (Amaro, Green, Enunwa). Just those moves alone could allow Mac to go BPA in the draft concentrating most on These 3 positions, LB, OL & RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I like your plan, but I still believe there are other needs. I think the offense needs the following... WR, OL, TE, FB, QB. Fitz should be resigned, but unless we give him every weapon that Mark Sanchez had in his sophomore season, we won't be giving Fitz a fair shot. I don't really know about either of the players you mention, but I love the idea of adding a WR and ST guy. Our ST sucked last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Just now, Mainejet said: I like your plan, but I still believe there are other needs. I think the offense needs the following... WR, OL, TE, FB, QB. Fitz should be resigned, but unless we give him every weapon that Mark Sanchez had in his sophomore season, we won't be giving Fitz a fair shot. I don't really know about either of the players you mention, but I love the idea of adding a WR and ST guy. Our ST sucked last season. We need a legitimate running game added to Marshall and Decker to improve the offense a decent TE could help as well along with some better OL not going to be easy to rebuild this team with little cap money. Dont over pay Fitz if we pay him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: We need a legitimate running game added to Marshall and Decker to improve the offense a decent TE could help as well along with some better OL not going to be easy to rebuild this team with little cap money. Dont over pay Fitz if we pay him at all. Agreed. And I also believe having a great defense backing up Fitz would be huge. Fitz would get a lot more chances to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 as long as the common thread is protect the passer or rush the passer, or special teams I'm ok with whatever they do I'm not expecting much after last years spree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I loved Ladarius Greene coming out of college. He was raw but had huge upside. I still don't think he's touched his potential yet. And he'd be cheap. Amaro/Green would be an enormous improvement at the position. As for WR...we've spent enough there. We need OL (for depth and to groom for our aging tackle and Center). And we have to figure out what the hell Devin Smith is good for. I'm thinking hes another speedy WR with no real talent. So draft would be OL, OLB, RB, WR3. FA would be TE, OL, KR/PR. My 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, sirlancemehlot said: I loved Ladarius Greene coming out of college. He was raw but had huge upside. I still don't think he's touched his potential yet. And he'd be cheap. Amaro/Green would be an enormous improvement at the position. As for WR...we've spent enough there. We need OL (for depth and to groom for our aging tackle and Center). And we have to figure out what the hell Devin Smith is good for. I'm thinking hes another speedy WR with no real talent. So draft would be OL, OLB, RB, WR3. FA would be TE, OL, KR/PR. My 2 cents. Agree if Devin Smith can hold onto the ball maybe all isn't lost we desperately need a KR and PR though we brought in Dri Archer this off season. Would like to see Kerley more involved in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 When the first position you think the Jets need help at is WR you really weren't paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: When the first position you think the Jets need help at is WR you really weren't paying attention. Im commenting on the previous posts I agreed we are good at WR,show me where I said we need WR help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, sirlancemehlot said: I loved Ladarius Greene coming out of college. He was raw but had huge upside. I still don't think he's touched his potential yet. And he'd be cheap. Amaro/Green would be an enormous improvement at the position. As for WR...we've spent enough there. We need OL (for depth and to groom for our aging tackle and Center). And we have to figure out what the hell Devin Smith is good for. I'm thinking hes another speedy WR with no real talent. So draft would be OL, OLB, RB, WR3. FA would be TE, OL, KR/PR. My 2 cents. FWIW I read today that the Chargers are interested in extending Gates again... I doubt they'd spend big on two tight ends. One is probably bound to hit FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Muhammed Wilkerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 My FA wish list: Muhammad Wilkerson Mitchell Schwartz Matt Forte Ryan Fitzgerald Zach Brown With some luck: Perry/Irvin/B. Marshall M. King Maybe: Barron Raji/Williams/Rubin/Knighton/Sims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, SenorGato said: My FA wish list: Muhammad Wilkerson Mitchell Schwartz Matt Forte Ryan Fitzgerald Zach Brown With some luck: Perry/Irvin/B. Marshall M. King Maybe: Barron Raji/Williams/Rubin/Knighton/Sims Who is Ryan Fitzgerald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 45 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Im commenting on the previous posts I agreed we are good at WR,show me where I said we need WR help. Much better question. Where did say you said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Even if the Browns let Benjamin go I think he would be looking for to much money for us (probably something like 6-7m per year). I think it would be wiser to look at an older veteran who might be willing to take a one year cheap deal maybe a Boldin or Floyd and try to get Thompkins and Owusu resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: Even if the Browns let Benjamin go I think he would be looking for to much money for us (probably something like 6-7m per year). I think it would be wiser to look at an older veteran who might be willing to take a one year cheap deal maybe a Boldin or Floyd and try to get Thompkins and Owusu resigned. Your probably right regarding Benjamins cost, but, you never know. Owusu is a goner (too many concussions), Kerley is a goner, Pace, Cumberland, D. Davis, all goners. I agree with others here regarding a stud RB, I'm all for grabbing Ezekial if he's there at 20. Maybe a duo of Green & go hard after Bruce Irvin (who I believe won't break the bank based on age & playing time). I don't think there are enough teams playing 3/4 defense. I don't think the young teams that have the most cap space will spend big on over 30s, or have the need. Jets will be knocking on the Super Bowl door if they have a huge draft & can get Fitz back on a hometown deal with him liking his situation with Chan & Bowles. Bruce Irvin could be a difference maker for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 hours ago, BroadwayJets said: FWIW I read today that the Chargers are interested in extending Gates again... I doubt they'd spend big on two tight ends. One is probably bound to hit FA That's good news, I like Green. Seemed to always show up when Gates got hurt, and that is with only Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, Jetster said: Your probably right regarding Benjamins cost, but, you never know. Owusu is a goner (too many concussions), Kerley is a goner, Pace, Cumberland, D. Davis, all goners. I agree with others here regarding a stud RB, I'm all for grabbing Ezekial if he's there at 20. Maybe a duo of Green & go hard after Bruce Irvin (who I believe won't break the bank based on age & playing time). I don't think there are enough teams playing 3/4 defense. I don't think the young teams that have the most cap space will spend big on over 30s, or have the need. Jets will be knocking on the Super Bowl door if they have a huge draft & can get Fitz back on a hometown deal with him liking his situation with Chan & Bowles. Bruce Irvin could be a difference maker for 2 years. Bruce Irvin is 28, still in his prime and will probably get big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jetster said: Your probably right regarding Benjamins cost, but, you never know. Owusu is a goner (too many concussions), Kerley is a goner, Pace, Cumberland, D. Davis, all goners. I agree with others here regarding a stud RB, I'm all for grabbing Ezekial if he's there at 20. Maybe a duo of Green & go hard after Bruce Irvin (who I believe won't break the bank based on age & playing time). I don't think there are enough teams playing 3/4 defense. I don't think the young teams that have the most cap space will spend big on over 30s, or have the need. Jets will be knocking on the Super Bowl door if they have a huge draft & can get Fitz back on a hometown deal with him liking his situation with Chan & Bowles. Bruce Irvin could be a difference maker for 2 years. The one thing that worries me about Elliot is that it seemed to me like he has trouble after contact. I also think he will be gone before our pick anyway but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Joejet said: Bruce Irvin is 28, still in his prime and will probably get big bucks. Is he really that great? I'm generally curious if he's just a beneficiary of that defense... Seattle is on primetime often and I generally never see him stand out. I think he's a JAG, but I'm not positive about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, BroadwayJets said: Is he really that great? I'm generally curious if he's just a beneficiary of that defense... Seattle is on primetime often and I generally never see him stand out. I think he's a JAG, but I'm not positive about that. I wonder that myself. I'm not all that impressed but I do believe he will get a big contract based on reputation. I wouldn't invest the money,mwould rather get one of the guys in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Just now, Joejet said: I wonder that myself. I'm not all that impressed but I do believe he will get a big contract based on reputation. I wouldn't invest the money,mwould rather get one of the guys in the draft. Same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 minute ago, BroadwayJets said: Same boat. By the way, love the avatar, I'm a big Boomer fan also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 None of this matters if we still don't have a QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 doug martin or ronnie hillman should get a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 How about picking up Jerricho Cotchery again? He might be getting on in age but he can still catch the ball extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Mainejet said: How about picking up Jerricho Cotchery again? He might be getting on in age but he can still catch the ball extremely well. You could tell that from his 3 drops in the Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Mainejet said: How about picking up Jerricho Cotchery again? He might be getting on in age but he can still catch the ball extremely well. Except in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: You could tell that from his 3 drops in the Super Bowl? So what's your point? You think we're better off with Quincy Enunwa? The next time that guy catches the ball it'll be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mainejet said: So what's your point? You think we're better off with Quincy Enunwa? The next time that guy catches the ball it'll be the first time. You're right. The Jets should get older, slower, and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Sanu anybody? Solid #3 i wouldn't mind Forte as a rotational back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Why is everyone writing off Devin Smith? Same thing as last year with C Pryor, and this fan base wonders why we can't develop a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Sanu anybody? Solid #3 i wouldn't mind Forte as a rotational back. Sanu a free agent he will wind up in New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Why is everyone writing off Devin Smith? Same thing as last year with C Pryor, and this fan base wonders why we can't develop a QB. I'm a big fan of Fitz, but part of d.smiths problem is fitzys inability to get the ball deep and/or when he DOES get it deep, it's not very accurate. D.smith seems a little fragile, too. I'm not giving up on him (you're right, I kinda learned my lesson w Pryor), but he certainly didn't excite me. Jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Why is everyone writing off Devin Smith? Same thing as last year with C Pryor, and this fan base wonders why we can't develop a QB. No one is writing him off. We have zero depth at wide out. Owusu is done and Thompkins really had no impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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