Norman contract screws Patriots

[Rangers9]

1 hour ago, section314 said:

I still think Revis has something in the tank, but you are basically proving TX's point here by referring to everything about Revis in the past tense...."would destroy"    "was outmatched"      "would wear an opponent down"    'had the great coverage skills." Kind of what he is saying.

I hope you're right and he's wrong. I think he has a chance to rebound but not to his pre-injury level. We'll see.

[Jetster]

2 hours ago, JetPotato said:

Butler? Lol. The guy is an average CB at best.

He's definitely above average, did you see any Pats games last year? So Decker burned him, Jarvis Landry burned Revis. CBs get beat, that's why they have to have short memories, I'd take Butler in a heartbeat. 

[naturalscience]

That's what trolls do. No one can honestly argue that revis is still not in the upper echelon of corners. He's obviously not as good as he was but neither is Brady. But you'll never hear that out tx because he is a narcissistic troll.

[Ghost]

8 minutes ago, naturalscience said:

That's what trolls do. No one can honestly argue that revis is still not in the upper echelon of corners. He's obviously not as good as he was but neither is Brady. But you'll never hear that out tx because he is a narcissistic troll.

I don't understand how he doesn't get banned, honestly. 

[PatsFanTX]

That's what trolls do. No one can honestly argue that revis is still not in the upper echelon of corners. He's obviously not as good as he was but neither is Brady. But you'll never hear that out tx because he is a narcissistic troll.

Last year Brady threw for 4,800 yards, 36 TD's, only 7 INT's , and was the 3rd ranked QB in the NFL with a 102.2 rating.

Revis overall play has dropped off the face of the earth compared to Brady.

Why do you make things up? Just to feel better?

[JetPotato]

7 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

Last year Brady threw for 4,800 yards, 36 TD's, only 7 INT's , and was the 3rd ranked QB in the NFL with a 102.2 rating.

Revis overall play has dropped off the face of the earth compared to Brady.

Why do you make things up? Just to feel 

Revis is to Butler what Brady is to Fitzpatrick. Only Revis has never been suspended for cheating or lost the respect of every non-delusional NFL fan alive.

[Larz]

5 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

Last year Brady threw for 4,800 yards, 36 TD's, only 7 INT's , and was the 3rd ranked QB in the NFL with a 102.2 rating.

Revis overall play has dropped off the face of the earth compared to Brady.

Why do you make things up? Just to feel better?

I'm bored, what the hell

 

Inside a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others, they found a library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents' signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons. Among them were handwritten diagrams of the defensive signals of the Pittsburgh Steelers, including the notes used in the January 2002 AFC Championship Game won by the Patriots 24-17. Yet almost as quickly as the tapes and notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell's orders: League executives stomped the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room.

 

hey, why don't the pats have a 1st round pick ?

 

 

[naturalscience]

So Brady going from the " greatest that ever picked up a football" to 3rd best is such a difference from revis going from best at the time to 5th best while playing with an injury that required surgery. Right. No blind hypocrisy here. 

[PatsFanTX]

So Brady going from the " greatest that ever picked up a football" to 3rd best is such a difference from revis going from best at the time to 5th best while playing with an injury that required surgery. Right. No blind hypocrisy here. 

Revis is far from the 5th best CB in the NFL.

Stop thinking the guy is the same player that he was in '09 and '10.

[SenorGato]

6 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

I think he will be improved but he is not a 16 mil player or close to it as Belichick knows. Too bad Woody didn't. Not Mac's fault on this one.

Didn't he make close to $20 million in his one year with the Pats? They won a SB and fielded their best defense in a decade. Revis making $16 million is a problem for the Jets in the sense that they don't have a QB, which isn't/wasn't a new problem. He'll be fine and if this loser franchise gets its sh*t together quick enough, he'll be a big part of any success. if the gosh danged Cubs can turn it around...

[naturalscience]

47 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

Last year Brady threw for 4,800 yards, 36 TD's, only 7 INT's , and was the 3rd ranked QB in the NFL with a 102.2 rating.

Revis overall play has dropped off the face of the earth compared to Brady.

Why do you make things up? Just to feel better?

 

6 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

Revis is far from the 5th best CB in the NFL.

Stop thinking the guy is the same player that he was in '09 and '10.

So having the second highest total of interceptions and the most fumble recoveries of his career is garbage. 5th highest int total and 3rd highest fumble recovery. Stop the hipocracy as I stated before he's not as dominant as he used to be but he is still in the upper echelon. 

[PatsFanTX]

Didn't he make close to $20 million in his one year with the Pats? They won a SB and fielded their best defense in a decade. Revis making $16 million is a problem for the Jets in the sense that they don't have a QB, which isn't/wasn't a new problem. He'll be fine and if this loser franchise gets its sh*t together quick enough, he'll be a big part of any success. if the gosh danged Cubs can turn it around...

$20MM? Do you think the Pats are as dumb as the Jets?

Pats paid Revis $11.7MM for a one year rental.

They declined the 2nd year option for $20MM as Revis was nowhere worth that amount.

[SenorGato]

7 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

$20MM? Do you think the Pats are as dumb as the Jets?

Pats paid Revis $11.7MM for a one year rental.

They declined the 2nd year option for $20MM as Revis was nowhere worth that amount.

$12 million, but I thought there was some other stuff in there that isn't.

Anyway yeah, the larger point is that Revis and his salary aren't actually issues for the Jets. That whole thing can be covered by putting a viable QB on the field more often, which was an issue before Revis and his salary came into play.

[The Crusher]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

$20MM? Do you think the Pats are as dumb as the Jets?

Pats paid Revis $11.7MM for a one year rental.

They declined the 2nd year option for $20MM as Revis was nowhere worth that amount.

Whatever. Pats have not won a Super Bowl since Revis  left.  Fact .  Now run a long and  GFY

[SenorGato]

Just now, The Crusher said:

Whatever. Pats have not won a Super Bowl since Revis  left.  Fact .  Now GFY

It was also the best defense they've put out in a decade or so.

[j4jets]

9 hours ago, Jetster said:

Butlers agent is smiling ear to ear! He's a restricted free agent after this season & after Norman just got 50 million, Butler is gonna be looking to get PAID! He's making $600,000 in 2016, lol. How much better is Norman than Butler? $49,400,000? LMAO! That's gonna be fun to watch.

Many, many people touted him as a top 5 CB in the league last year. So you'll have Butler, Collins, Hightower, all wanting to get paid, plus Bennett will be a free agent again. Love it.

Norman's deal is on a different level than Butlers potential deal. Why? Cuz he's no where close to a top 5 or a top 10. 

[PatsFanTX]

So having the second highest total of interceptions and the most fumble recoveries of his career is garbage. 

Seriously?

You are citing 5 INTs and 4 fumble recovers as Revis status as an elite CB? Wow.

That's $3,400,000 per INT and $4,250,000 per fumble recovery.

Now that's money well spent.

[j4jets]

9 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

9 hours ago, PatsFanTX said:

Nah, the Pats will just pay him $17MM per year.

Probably a shot at the Jets but Pats sort of did that with Revis couple years ago and were willing to pay even more last year  than the Jets.

 

[naturalscience]

Who spends their time on a jets board as a pats fan ? I'll give you 3 guesses.

[naturalscience]

15 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

Seriously?

You are citing 5 INTs and 4 fumble recovers as Revis status as an elite CB? Wow.

That's $3,400,000 per INT and $4,250,000 per fumble recovery.

Now that's money well spent.

Still shut down everyone but 2 receivers with an injury that needed surgery. So maybe he still wasn't targeted as you suggest. If your owner didn't pay Brady under the table for his b.s. business. He would be making $ 25 mil a year against the cap so take your math and stick it until you factor that in.

[Rangers9]

55 minutes ago, SenorGato said:

Didn't he make close to $20 million in his one year with the Pats? They won a SB and fielded their best defense in a decade. Revis making $16 million is a problem for the Jets in the sense that they don't have a QB, which isn't/wasn't a new problem. He'll be fine and if this loser franchise gets its sh*t together quick enough, he'll be a big part of any success. if the gosh danged Cubs can turn it around...

He made 12 mil for NEP. The 2nd year of the deal (unguaranteed) was for 20 and they cut him instead of paying him that. Look I've said a lot of good things about him but he isn't even close production wise to living up to this contract. He's still a good player but not a great one. 

[ghost_in_pads02]

lol..you all really made this thread about Butler?? Ha ha

 

Slow day i see.

 

One thing though..Butlers play made it alot easier to let go of Revis....Jets need Revis more than the Pats need Butler if push came to shove. And wasnt Butler a pro bowler too? 

[Jetster]

10 hours ago, ghost_in_pads02 said:

lol..you all really made this thread about Butler?? Ha ha

 

Slow day i see.

 

One thing though..Butlers play made it alot easier to let go of Revis....Jets need Revis more than the Pats need Butler if push came to shove. And wasnt Butler a pro bowler too? 

I post anything that I forsee derailing you cheating scumbags. Brady getting older is número uno. Having to sign Butler, Collins & Hightower are the others. Edelmans concussion & injury issues are sure to rear their ugly head again in 2016 too, along with your OTs constantly going down. Looking forward to hopefully sending out Marshall, Treadwell, Decker, Forte, Amaro against your non existent pass rush next year, should be Jets highest scoring games vs Pats in years. Both games we'll score over 30!

[drdetroit]

Butler is ridiculously overrated by the media and patriot fans.  Belichick knows better this is his last season as a Pat unless he does a hometown discount

[drdetroit]

12 hours ago, naturalscience said:

Still shut down everyone but 2 receivers with an injury that needed surgery. So maybe he still wasn't targeted as you suggest. If your owner didn't pay Brady under the table for his b.s. business. He would be making $ 25 mil a year against the cap so take your math and stick it until you factor that in.

Pls don't bother with tx this clown loves to yap endlessly about 2 topics:

 

1. How the jets are in cap hell the next 20 yrs because of revis

2. How anyone who holds a clipboard for Brady is the next Steve Young

[Colgateman]

13 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Whatever. Pats have not won a Super Bowl since Revis  left.  Fact .  Now run a long and  GFY

Man is this post serious? It's been 1 season going on 2. When was the last time we win a super bowl?

[joewilly12]

20 hours ago, PatsFanTX said:

Teams will go after Revis this year instead of staying away from him.

Always go after the weak link in the secondary.

Just as teams will go after Brady everyone knows you put pressure on him he crumbles like a house of cards. 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Colgateman said:

Man is this post serious? It's been 1 season going on 2. When was the last time we win a super bowl?

Not sure I was born yesterday .

[Dcat]

14 hours ago, PatsFanTX said:

Seriously?

You are citing 5 INTs and 4 fumble recovers as Revis status as an elite CB? Wow.

That's $3,400,000 per INT and $4,250,000 per fumble recovery.

Now that's money well spent.

 

14 hours ago, naturalscience said:

Still shut down everyone but 2 receivers with an injury that needed surgery. So maybe he still wasn't targeted as you suggest. If your owner didn't pay Brady under the table for his b.s. business. He would be making $ 25 mil a year against the cap so take your math and stick it until you factor that in.

Revis's wrist was more severely injured than any of us knew.  He just got the pins taken out. Bowles use of Revis makes much more sense now, in that they did not allow Revis to press Watkins.  Because of his wrist, the play was to let Revis after him and give him help up top.  Bowles isn't stupid.  And your commentary about the "decline" of Revis is based on a completely false premise.  You ignore the injury.  He may not be the Revis of 4 years ago, but he is still a top 5 CB in the NFL, no matter how much you whine that he is not.  You be wrong.

So your little bash Revis campaign that you've been engaged in here for the last few days TX is completely off.  Once a top tier troll, now just a troll JAG. (sound familiar?  It's your very own stupid reasoning, of course)

You troll skills have so seriously diminished the last year that you are no longer a top troll.  You have no injury excuse.  Your attack on Revis lately is a colossal fail.  

[PatsFanTX]

Revis's wrist was more severely injured than any of us knew.  He just got the pins taken out. Bowles use of Revis makes much more sense now, in that they did not allow Revis to press Watkins.  Because of his wrist, the play was to let Revis after him and give him help up top.  Bowles isn't stupid.  And your commentary about the "decline" of Revis is based on a completely false premise.  You ignore the injury.  He may not be the Revis of 4 years ago, but he is still a top 5 CB in the NFL, no matter how much you whine that he is not.  You be wrong.

So your little bash Revis campaign that you've been engaged in here for the last few days TX is completely off.  Once a top tier troll, now just a troll JAG. (sound familiar?  It's your very own stupid reasoning, of course)

You troll skills have so seriously diminished the last year that you are no longer a top troll.  You have no injury excuse.  Your attack on Revis lately is a colossal fail.  

If Revis was really injured, why wasn't he listed on the weekly injury report?

Another example of the Jets breaking NFL rules.

[Matt39]

They can just pay him under the table as they do with Gronk and Brady. 

[Dcat]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said:

If Revis was really injured, why wasn't he listed on the weekly injury report?

Another example of the Jets breaking NFL rules.

OK, shifting the topic, eh?  That's your own troll-like patented way of admitting you were wrong about Revis.  At least you admit your error.  Geez... how many times did you repeat yourself about Revis being just ordinary now?  Completely wrong.  Not even a good effort from you.  You really have gotten bad at trolling.  In fact you suck balls at it here compared to your former self.  

[rillo]

Butler isnt all that good IMO. Far from shutdown.

[PatsFanTX]

Butler isnt all that good IMO. Far from shutdown.

He shut down Watkins and Hopkins last year, something Revis couldn't do.

[Bocajetfan]

This contract screws everyone. It makes life difficult for GMs everywhere. Teams try to build a core of players on both sides of the ball, you try to space the contracts out so they don't come due at the same time ripping your team apart. Human nature gets players who have two or three years left wanting extension matching there precived worth as to that gotten by others at their position. When a team has two or three players making 30% of there cap and have drafted poorly you have a team stuck in mediocrity.