JetBlue Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I am watching the Giant game and I am getting a reminder that speed definitely kills.... if you have a quarterback that can get him the ball. Beckham is otherworldly when he is on his game but Manning has been able to lead him on passes over and over again where he never even had to break stride. Same thing can be said for Ravens with Flacco. He unload to Mike Wallace leading him perfectly and bam. If the Giants win this game, no one is going to harp on how Flacco carved up their secondary because Eli and Co. returned the favor in spades. Teams that can travel, 40, 50,70 yards and more in ONE PLAY makes me sick as I think about our conquering hero and his pop gun arm constantly under throwing Anderson these past few games. That is why to listen to some folks keep harping on the defense over and over and giving a pass because Fitz as been "average", is extremely annoying. The sooner get Petty or Smith the sooner this team develops a fast strike capability. Then watch how much better the defense plays when they know their offense can score points in a hurry. Nothing excites a defense as much as watching their offense score; especially on a quick strike. Nothing demoralizes a defense more than watching their offense creep down the field and then settle for field goal after field goal or turning the ball over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 You are right!!! This is why we can't currently evaluate say a Devin Smith until you get a guy who can throw that type of ball in big time situations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 You know it's bad when we have to convince ourselves that every under-throw was a back shoulder pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: You are right!!! This is why we can't currently evaluate say a Devin Smith until you get a guy who can throw that type of ball in big time situations... Petty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Now that the folks here got Fitz like they wanted, they are pretty quiet about defending their position. This team has WR's that are speedy and can get the ball. The Jets also have a QB with a pea shooter for an arm. Good call guys. We tried to warn you. A lost season. Instead of developing as a young team we are playing scatter shot with the most important position on the team. who does that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Now that the folks here got Fitz like they wanted, they are pretty quiet about defending their position. This team has WR's that are speedy and can get the ball. The Jets also have a QB with a pea shooter for an arm. Good call guys. We tried to warn you. A lost season. Instead of developing as a young team we are playing scatter shot with the most important position on the team. who does that? But...but....WHAT ABOUT WINNING NOW?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: But...but....WHAT ABOUT WINNING NOW?!?!?! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, JetBlue said: I am watching the Giant game and I am getting a reminder that speed definitely kills.... if you have a quarterback that can get him the ball. Beckham is otherworldly when he is on his game but Manning has been able to lead him on passes over and over again where he never even had to break stride. Same thing can be said for Ravens with Flacco. He unload to Mike Wallace leading him perfectly and bam. If the Giants win this game, no one is going to harp on how Flacco carved up their secondary because Eli and Co. returned the favor in spades. Teams that can travel, 40, 50,70 yards and more in ONE PLAY makes me sick as I think about our conquering hero and his pop gun arm constantly under throwing Anderson these past few games. That is why to listen to some folks keep harping on the defense over and over and giving a pass because Fitz as been "average", is extremely annoying. The sooner get Petty or Smith the sooner this team develops a fast strike capability. Then watch how much better the defense plays when they know their offense can score points in a hurry. Nothing excites a defense as much as watching their offense score; especially on a quick strike. Nothing demoralizes a defense more than watching their offense creep down the field and then settle for field goal after field goal or turning the ball over. Speaking of the Giants / Ravens game. The Jets will be getting an angry Ravens team next week. And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Our offense on our best day is nowhere as quick as what you just saw hes a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: You know it's bad when we have to convince ourselves that every under-throw was a back shoulder pass. Wait!! What you talkin about Villian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 you need an OC that is creative and aggressive, time to throw, an open WR and a strong accurate throw to get 75 yard TD's the jets have none of this, its not just the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Our offense on our best day is nowhere as quick as what you just saw hes a beast. It wasn't just Odell and Eli, Flacco had some nice deep passes as well and both teams were going up and down the field for a while there. The point is that is something our team is incapable of more so because of the quarterback than the wide receivers. I think both Anderson and Peake have the ability to get deep, perhaps Anderson more so, but with Fitz that part of our passing game is non-existent. Soon we will have Devin Smith back and he will add another potential deep threat. Can you imagine how much more dangerous the offense can potentially be with Petty throwing to combination of those guys and Marshall, Enunwa, J. Marshall, ASJ. I think that would also open of some running lanes for Forte and Powell. This offense has the potential to be very good even without Decker, if we just had a competent quarterback with more than a pop gun arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 All those who rattled the chain for Fitz should have a Red F next to their avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: you need an OC that is creative and aggressive, time to throw, an open WR and a strong accurate throw to get 75 yard TD's the jets have none of this, its not just the QB The OC is getting the WR's open. The one read $12MM QB has that problem to go along with his pea shooter. We could have gotten this poor play at QB for less money. Now we can't even play Geno cause he may show up the FO. SMDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Wow, you'd think this "Play Geno, have Deep Game" concept would be OBVIOUS to a genius like Chan, wouldn't you? Really makes you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 47 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Now that the folks here got Fitz like they wanted, they are pretty quiet about defending their position. This team has WR's that are speedy and can get the ball. The Jets also have a QB with a pea shooter for an arm. Good call guys. We tried to warn you. A lost season. Instead of developing as a young team we are playing scatter shot with the most important position on the team. who does that? but wait, isn't he well liked and a clubhouse leader. if we played the games in the clubhouses we would be in great shape. probably undefeated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, jetfan39 said: but wait, isn't he well liked and a clubhouse leader. if we played the games in the clubhouses we would be in great shape. probably undefeated Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, Warfish said: Wow, you'd think this "Play Geno, have Deep Game" concept would be OBVIOUS to a genius like Chan, wouldn't you? Really makes you think. Hard to play Geno when you are paying a guy $12MM that is in front of him. What a brilliant FO move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: Hard to play Geno when you are paying a guy $12MM that is in front of him. If the money is the thing you think holding Geno back from getting his 4th chance, then that would be an indictment on the entire coaching staff and front office. If anything, the one year, low money deal makes it easier to go away from Fitz because he's not tied here beyond this year and supplanting him should be the major goal this season, especially with either Petty or Hack getting a chance. So, maybe, just maybe, there's a much simpler explanation as to why they aren't going with Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Hard to play Geno when you are paying a guy $12MM that is in front of him. What a brilliant FO move there. No. It's really, really not that hard at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Hard to play Geno when you are paying a guy $12MM that is in front of him. What a brilliant FO move there. This is the only reason Geno Smith isn't playing Macc will look like a damn fool if he outplays Fitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This is the only reason Geno Smith isn't playing Macc will look like a damn fool if he outplays Fitzpatrick So in your mind, Bowles would rather be fired BY Macc for losing, than make Macc "look bad" for doing the near-universally-supported thing when he signed Fitz. What drugs are you taking, cause I'd looooove to get this kind of fantasy-world trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 31 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The OC is getting the WR's open. The one read $12MM QB has that problem to go along with his pea shooter. We could have gotten this poor play at QB for less money. Now we can't even play Geno cause he may show up the FO. SMDH you think they feel geno is better, but would be embarrassed by all the winning ? just let me know now if you have been spending lots of time in the QB threads, aint nobody got time for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: So in your mind, Bowles would rather be fired BY Macc for losing, than make Macc "look bad" for doing the near-universally-supported thing when he signed Fitz. What drugs are you taking, cause I'd looooove to get this kind of fantasy-world trip. Sadly yes 6 INTs in a game and he's still the starter. The NFL is a business Macc is the GM the Jets foolishly handed Fitzpatrick $12 million barring injury he's playing regardless of performance sadder is the fact that this seems to be really happening. Very low dosage of pain medicine. No alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: If the money is the thing you think holding Geno back from getting his 4th chance, then that would be an indictment on the entire coaching staff and front office. If anything, the one year, low money deal makes it easier to go away from Fitz because he's not tied here beyond this year and supplanting him should be the major goal this season, especially with either Petty or Hack getting a chance. So, maybe, just maybe, there's a much simpler explanation as to why they aren't going with Geno. Please......$12MM. Geno could do,more worse for less money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Woody-Macc-Bowles play Geno Smith and he excels and makes Fitzpatrick look really bad Woody-Mac-Bowles look like fools throughout the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 What happened to the thread where the OP asked if you would trade any player on Jets for OBJ? Did any Jets fan not think that is a no-brainer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Woody-Macc-Bowles play Geno Smith and he excels and makes Fitzpatrick look really bad Woody-Mac-Bowles look like fools throughout the NFL The Red F guys are showing up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, JetBlue said: I am watching the Giant game and I am getting a reminder that speed definitely kills.... if you have a quarterback that can get him the ball. Beckham is otherworldly when he is on his game but Manning has been able to lead him on passes over and over again where he never even had to break stride. Same thing can be said for Ravens with Flacco. He unload to Mike Wallace leading him perfectly and bam. If the Giants win this game, no one is going to harp on how Flacco carved up their secondary because Eli and Co. returned the favor in spades. Teams that can travel, 40, 50,70 yards and more in ONE PLAY makes me sick as I think about our conquering hero and his pop gun arm constantly under throwing Anderson these past few games. That is why to listen to some folks keep harping on the defense over and over and giving a pass because Fitz as been "average", is extremely annoying. The sooner get Petty or Smith the sooner this team develops a fast strike capability. Then watch how much better the defense plays when they know their offense can score points in a hurry. Nothing excites a defense as much as watching their offense score; especially on a quick strike. Nothing demoralizes a defense more than watching their offense creep down the field and then settle for field goal after field goal or turning the ball over. You're right. You can't string together 15 play drives just to score every single time. Gotta hit some big plays, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The year of Elliot has reinforced the notion of drafting Fournette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Please......$12MM. Geno could do,more worse for less money What does this have to do with the current conversation? You just know your position is weak and you've got nothing else to say? That it? Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The year of Elliot has reinforced the notion of drafting Fournette I've been on "Draft Fournette" train since the end of last year's draft, and I still haven't gotten off yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The year of Elliot has reinforced the notion of drafting Fournette Not really. There is still no real reason to draft a running back in the first round unless it's a generational talent like AP. They typically just don't last to make it worth that investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Wow, you'd think this "Play Geno, have Deep Game" concept would be OBVIOUS to a genius like Chan, wouldn't you? Really makes you think. What the **** are you talking about? Who said anything about Geno Smith??? Jeez dude give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 30 minutes ago, RoadFan said: What happened to the thread where the OP asked if you would trade any player on Jets for OBJ? Did any Jets fan not think that is a no-brainer? Why would we do that ? OBJ was on the board when we were drafting.. But we don't draft offense in the early rounds.. Only D and qbs who can't help Right away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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