billo83 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: because Decker is signed past 2017 and there's no dead money for cutting Marshall Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app What good comes out of it if he can't stay on the field? IIRC the dead money isn't that much especially considering he's always hurt. Marshall is a much better receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Mike Maccagnan likes sh*tty QB's. Which explains drafting Hack and Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, billo83 said: What good comes out of it if he can't stay on the field? IIRC the dead money isn't that much especially considering he's always hurt. Marshall is a much better receiver Your right about Decker being injury prone but when he is on the field he is very good We need to keep both Marshall and Decker one more season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If I have to guess, only Haris and Decker stay. Decker can mentor the young WR corp.plus, he came to newyork before Mac was even here and Geno was slotted in as the team QB. Harris is a Jet. He's the defensive QB since he plays middle LB. He's perfect to mentor Lee, Jenkins and Mauldin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, thadude said: Your right about Decker being injury prone but when he is on the field he is very good We need to keep both Marshall and Decker one more season Oh I agree with that, although other posters have a point about taking away reps from the young pups. But I don't trust that Decker will stay healthy. He reminds me of glass jaw McGraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Keep Harris. Someone needs to show the young kids how to be a professional. Let someone take playing time from him. But he should be the leader on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouPlay2Win Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 not sure how Decker is injury prone ? he missed last season because of a major injury . prior to that he missed 2 games in 4 or 5 seasons . doesn't seem injury prone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 This move wouldn't save us any cap space, but if a guys useless they should be cut. That guy is Matt Forte who has zero upside in sticking with us pass this season. Very mediocre and lack burst. Yes his contract is guaranteed, but take our loses and move on Bill Belicheck style. This becomes even more apparent if we draft Leonard or Cook. I think we lose a mil or two in cap space if he were to get cut but as I said it's all a sunk cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if we hold onto girlchrist he is still youngish I feel like the trend is leaning more toward getting rid of the old so that we can replace it with youth.Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Wait, why are we wanting to cut a #1 WR for $7mil? I won't put it past Macc to cut him though. It makes the Jets cap hell situation look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, j4jets said: Wait, why are we wanting to cut a #1 WR for $7mil? I won't put it past Macc to cut him though. It makes the Jets cap hell situation look much better. We are so deep at WR we have superstars on the bench let me refresh your memory Robbie Anderson,Jalin Marshall,Devin Smith and Charone Peake most if not on the Jets not in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 34 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: This move wouldn't save us any cap space, but if a guys useless they should be cut. That guy is Matt Forte who has zero upside in sticking with us pass this season. Very mediocre and lack burst. Yes his contract is guaranteed, but take our loses and move on Bill Belicheck style. This becomes even more apparent if we draft Leonard or Cook. I think we lose a mil or two in cap space if he were to get cut but as I said it's all a sunk cost. If we're paying him, he's staying. Cutting him simply adds to our salary cap. Like it or not, Forte is staying. Doesn't make financial sense. "Sunk cost" probably isn't worth it for the roster spot (53rd player on the team who probably won't do anything but ST). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Oh I agree with that, although other posters have a point about taking away reps from the young pups. But I don't trust that Decker will stay healthy. He reminds me of glass jaw McGraw and the downside of he gets hurt in what is essentially a throw away season is ... what, exactly? Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 12 hours ago, JiF said: If this regime has any brains, it's Marshall followed closely by David Harris. I think the opposite when it comes to Harris and here's why ... If this team is truly rebuilding and I'm sure at this point it is, Harris will be playing on a team that will have a lot of youngsters on it. His work ethic and approach to the game may very well be worth his salary for this season and then when you need money free'd up for next season you can think about cutting David Harris. Obviously Harris has lost a few steps but hes valuable in the fact he brings some integrity to a team that desperately needs it. I think that's worth 6.5 million in the lead by example category. Remember, we are going no where next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: and the downside of he gets hurt in what is essentially a throw away season is ... what, exactly? Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app exactly why I think Harris should stay ..throw away season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Maxman said: Keep Harris. Someone needs to show the young kids how to be a professional. Let someone take playing time from him. But he should be the leader on this team. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 exactly why I think Harris should stay ..throw away season The difference is that cutting Harris (if he won't take a significant pay cut) saves real money that can either be used for a replacement that can help the team long term or rolled forward as unused cap space. Harris is overpaid relative to market.Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 20 hours ago, JiF said: Yes, I'm pointing my finger at the wrong person. You know, the person who admitted he divided the locker room and 4 players and the Head Coach confirmed it. The same player who had been run out of 3 other locker rooms prior to landing with the Jets. I'm soooooo misguided. Pretty much, yes you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Smashmouth said: I think the opposite when it comes to Harris and here's why ... If this team is truly rebuilding and I'm sure at this point it is, Harris will be playing on a team that will have a lot of youngsters on it. His work ethic and approach to the game may very well be worth his salary for this season and then when you need money free'd up for next season you can think about cutting David Harris. Obviously Harris has lost a few steps but hes valuable in the fact he brings some integrity to a team that desperately needs it. I think that's worth 6.5 million in the lead by example category. Remember, we are going no where next season There are plenty of other veterans on the team. Harris doesnt need to be there to "mentor" the youngsters. I think this is the most overrated theory in all of sports. The thought that veterans just sit around developing the youngsters. Sure, they get advice here and there and can lead by example but at this point in their careers, they've had plenty of that from HS to College. What the reason for having 50 coaches on the team, especially a bunch of former players? And how did Harris and his integrity serve the team this season? The team needs a youth movement. All Harris is going to do is take away valuable snaps from the players that need them. They're not going to pay him that ridiculous contract to be a mentor. If they can restructure Harris, I'm all for having him back but no way on earth you bring him back at that price to "mentor". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Pretty much, yes you are Yep! I'm in the wrong even though the facts are: - the player admitted his actions divided the locker room - 4 players on the team confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - the head coach, confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - this is now the 4th locker room said player has destroyed. I'm soooooooo misguided. lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: Yep! I'm in the wrong even though the facts are: - the player admitted his actions divided the locker room - 4 players on the team confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - the head coach, confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - this is now the 4th locker room said player has destroyed. I'm soooooooo misguided. lmfao completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dcat said: completely You still think the earth if flat, dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, JiF said: You still think the earth if flat, dont you? It's your EEG that is flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: It's your EEG that is flat. Damn dude, that's harsh and mean spirited. These types of personnel attacks because of a disagreement will divide this board and create a black cloud over the forum. Similar to Brandon Marshall's actions in the Jets locker room last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: Damn dude, that's harsh and mean spirited. These types of personnel attacks because of a disagreement will divide this board and create a black cloud over the forum. Similar to Brandon Marshall's actions in the Jets locker room last year. whatever JIF. I think you are indeed brain dead when it comes to Marshall. You couldn't be more biased and more wrong when it comes to this issue. You keep repeating the same drivel as well. The locker room cancers in the Jets clubhouse was not Marshall. It was Wilk and Richardson. The likelihood is that Marshall will be around here, so you might want to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Dcat said: whatever JIF. I think you are indeed brain dead when it comes to Marshall. You couldn't be more biased and more wrong when it comes to this issue. You keep repeating the same drivel as well. The locker room cancers in the Jets clubhouse was not Marshall. It was Wilk and Richardson. The likelihood is that Marshall will be around here, so you might want to get used to it. Right except the fact that Marshall, 4 players and the Head Coach all confirmed it was Marshall's actions that divided the team. And the fact this the 4th locker room he did this too. Yet, you ignore those facts and state opinions and then personally attack me for stating facts. It's cool bro. I will love you no matter how nasty you are to me for no reason whatsoever. But I'm right in this situation and you're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 They basically have to keep Harris unless they immediately replace him with a guy like Minter. Either way I don;t see a lot of cost savings if he gets let go, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: Yep! I'm in the wrong even though the facts are: - the player admitted his actions divided the locker room - 4 players on the team confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - the head coach, confirmed that his actions divided the locker room - this is now the 4th locker room said player has destroyed. I'm soooooooo misguided. lmfao -The player was talking about 1 game. -you count a player saying the message could have been delievered better and leave off where that player, Enunwa, said he owes everything to Marshall. -The HC has repeatedly said the locker was fine and it gets overblown -Now it's gone from one game to destroyed LR, lol -misguided? More like over zealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: -The player was talking about 1 game. -you count a player saying the message could have been delievered better and leave off where that player, Enunwa, said he owes everything to Marshall. -The HC has repeatedly said the locker was fine and it gets overblown -Now it's gone from one game to destroyed LR, lol -misguided? More like over zealous It's downright stupid. And completely exaggerated. And he knows it. Pretentious exaggeration. He just hates Marshall. It's obvious. Maybe he's got a bias against bi-polar people? Whatever. Marshall has a mouth, but gives a shiit about the team a lot more than Revis, Wilk or Richardson. All selfish, me-first players that drag down the locker room ultimately. Gotta keep either Marshall, Decker or both to give whoever the QB is a shot at a little success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Dcat said: It's downright stupid. And completely exaggerated. And he knows it. Pretentious exaggeration. He just hates Marshall. It's obvious. Maybe he's got a bias against bi-polar people? Whatever. Marshall has a mouth, but gives a shiit about the team a lot more than Revis, Wilk or Richardson. All selfish, me-first players that drag down the locker room ultimately. Gotta keep either Marshall, Decker or both to give whoever the QB is a shot at a little success. Right? Love the idea that if your to much of a rah, rah, player. If you care too much, try to pump up the team you're destroying the locker room. Maybe it wasn't appreciated but if it broke up the locker room there's a much bigger problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, Jet Nut said: Right? Love the idea that if your to much of a rah, rah, player. If you care too much, try to pump up the team you're destroying the locker room. Maybe it wasn't appreciated but if it broke up the locker room there's a much bigger problem = Todd Bowles has no control over his team. ala Rex. That's the problem with some rookie HC's it seems. Add to that Bowles' terrible defensive scheme that doesn't work and we've got ourselves a dual headed problem all starting with the head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choklits Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: The difference is that cutting Harris (if he won't take a significant pay cut) saves real money that can either be used for a replacement that can help the team long term or rolled forward as unused cap space. Harris is overpaid relative to market. Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app Makes sense to cut Marshall, Harris, Gilchrist and Jenkins and trade Richardson. Gives us $52 million which we don't have to completely use . We can look for useful but not over priced players and develop the team through the draft and with free agents that aren't someone else's castoffs. In addition, the cap money allows us to keep our own players who deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 16 hours ago, YouPlay2Win said: not sure how Decker is injury prone ? he missed last season because of a major injury . prior to that he missed 2 games in 4 or 5 seasons . doesn't seem injury prone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Decker played in 2014 at 50% entire season due to a hamstring issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: Right except the fact that Marshall, 4 players and the Head Coach all confirmed it was Marshall's actions that divided the team. And the fact this the 4th locker room he did this too. Yet, you ignore those facts and state opinions and then personally attack me for stating facts. It's cool bro. I will love you no matter how nasty you are to me for no reason whatsoever. But I'm right in this situation and you're not. Marshall "divided" the locker room because he called out spoiled lazy b-tches like Revis and Wilk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 16 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: This move wouldn't save us any cap space, but if a guys useless they should be cut. That guy is Matt Forte who has zero upside in sticking with us pass this season. Very mediocre and lack burst. Yes his contract is guaranteed, but take our loses and move on Bill Belicheck style. This becomes even more apparent if we draft Leonard or Cook. I think we lose a mil or two in cap space if he were to get cut but as I said it's all a sunk cost. Forte was mediocre last season but not bad enough to cut without getting a cap savings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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