Jets need to make a fairly unprecedented move

[JohnnyLV]

We need to fire Saleh before the start of the season.

If you saw any of the press conferences this weekend it is pretty clear that this guy is just completely not engaged.

He was lifeless, angry and sullen and showed no interest or passion about the draft or the team. He is already checked out.

There is nothing to suggest he is worth keeping. And before you say "defense" that is really a function of having Sauce, Reed, MC2 and the Williams brothers.

THE Jets will be a better team without him. Make Middleton or Ulbrich the head coach and move on. Saleh is in the bottom 3 of Jets coaches ever

 

 

[slats]

Awesome plan, Johnny! 

[Sammybighead]

🤦🏽‍♂️

[nycdan]

Kotite and Gase have a stranglehold on two worst coaches ever.  There is no competition.

If you want to put Saleh against Bowles and maybe Holtz for 3rd, that's a fair debate although things could easily turn around this season if we can stay healthy.  I would say the biggest black mark against Saleh has been his revolving door of ineffective OCs.  That's on him and if he gets fired, that's going to be a big part of the reason why.

[bonkertons]

God help us, it's gonna be a long few months.

[Chewy and the Jets]

It is possible that he was sullen because Joe Douglas realized this might be his last shot at running a draft for a while and ceased listening to his never ending demand for more defensive linemen.  Throw in the trade of JFM and you can see why we might be pouting a bit.

[TuscanyTile2]

11 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

We need to fire Saleh before the start of the season.

If you saw any of the press conferences this weekend it is pretty clear that this guy is just completely not engaged.

He was lifeless, angry and sullen and showed no interest or passion about the draft or the team. He is already checked out.

There is nothing to suggest he is worth keeping. And before you say "defense" that is really a function of having Sauce, Reed, MC2 and the Williams brothers.

THE Jets will be a better team without him. Make Middleton or Ulbrich the head coach and move on. Saleh is in the bottom 3 of Jets coaches ever

I wish!  lol.

It's not going to happen but I'd love it if we brought in Vrabel.  How often are HCs of that caliber just sitting around waiting to be hired?  Unfortunately, that ship has sailed.  At least he didn't go to the Pats.

[32EBoozer]

10 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

We need to fire Saleh before the start of the season.

If you saw any of the press conferences this weekend it is pretty clear that this guy is just completely not engaged.

He was lifeless, angry and sullen and showed no interest or passion about the draft or the team. He is already checked out.

There is nothing to suggest he is worth keeping. And before you say "defense" that is really a function of having Sauce, Reed, MC2 and the Williams brothers.

THE Jets will be a better team without him. Make Middleton or Ulbrich the head coach and move on. Saleh is in the bottom 3 of Jets coaches ever

Great way to reinforce the notion of the entire NFL & media that the Jets are a complete Clown Show

[Pac]

This might be in the top 10 worst threads of all time only because you are serious.  

[MykePM]

17 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

We need to fire Saleh before the start of the season.

If you saw any of the press conferences this weekend it is pretty clear that this guy is just completely not engaged.

He was lifeless, angry and sullen and showed no interest or passion about the draft or the team. He is already checked out.

 

[bonkertons]

I dunno why but OP reminds me of the restaurant manager from Office Space - "I noticed you're only wearing 15 pieces of flair...are you happy doing the bare minimum?"

[Claymation]

1 minute ago, MykePM said:

Is that 2 grown men having a tickle fight?

[bonkertons]

2 minutes ago, MykePM said:

 

You fool....who cares if he's happy and excited around the people he works with and his players(as evidenced by the draft pick phone calls), he needs to be happy in front of random ass beat writers otherwise his passion has clearly died and he should be put out to pasture.  I bet you're Bobby Saleh himself with this propaganda. 

[BigRy56]

Oh hell yeah!

[T0mShane]

You have to let him coach more than a handful of games with a viable NFL QB. Zach Wilson would have ruined the career of literally every coach in the history of the sport, and the fact that Saleh got stuck with that turd for three years is simultaneously 1. his best excuse for failure and 2. the biggest black mark on his coaching record. 

[Integrity28]

It always amazes me how many grown men think that because they are reactive ninnies, every other man should be.

 

[freestater]

You'd be sullen too, if your GM made a trade back and it made you miss your tee time. 

[mrcoops]

What was quite funny was the interviews with Saleh where he was asked by team reporters what he liked about Fashanu and Corley.

He had this "Why TF are you asking me about offensive players?" look on his face for a few seconds before he remembered that he is supposed to be the Head Coach, and he then launched into generic platitudes about toughness, gas, crows, etc.

[Matt39]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You have to let him coach more than a handful of games with a viable NFL QB. Zach Wilson would have ruined the career of literally every coach in the history of the sport, and the fact that Saleh got stuck with that turd for three years is simultaneously 1. his best excuse for failure and 2. the biggest black mark on his coaching record. 

******* Zach Wilson

[Greensleeves]

If you had to deal with the NY media all the time, I'm pretty sure by the second month you'd feel lifeless too.

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, freestater said:

You'd be sullen too, if your GM made a trade back and it made you miss your tee time. 

Saleh knew what he was getting into with Woody calling the QB shots. As far as I know Salehs paycheck never not cleared and he still was able to play plenty of golf. Perhaps theyre asking him to work a  bit harder this year.

[RedBeardedSavage]

10 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You have to let him coach more than a handful of games with a viable NFL QB. Zach Wilson would have ruined the career of literally every coach in the history of the sport, and the fact that Saleh got stuck with that turd for three years is simultaneously 1. his best excuse for failure and 2. the biggest black mark on his coaching record. 

Seriously this. 

Sean Payton gonna find out real quick that he’d rather start Stidham or a rookie with a Chad Pennington arm. 

[Mr. Rogers]

Guy can't win. If he was fiery and brash he'd be getting called over confident, stupid, blustery. Instead he's sullen, pouty, checked out.

He said it earlier this off season - it's not time for talk anymore. We did that last year. It's time to win ball games. There's been no indication he's lost the support of the players. Who the hell cares about off season press conferences? I'll judge by this year's results.

[Joe W. Namath]

Saleh is one of the best, young coaches in the nfl.  He will lead us to 13 wins this year and get a big extension.

Accept it jet fans!!!!!!!!

[Gastineau Lives]

 

Not everybody can be a 24 hr party

[PS17]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

Is that 2 grown men having a tickle fight?

It’s all gas bro 

[rex-n-effect]

Saleh knows Douglas made a huge mistake trading away the great Zach Wilson 

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, bonkertons said:

I dunno why but OP reminds me of the restaurant manager from Office Space - "I noticed you're only wearing 15 pieces of flair...are you happy doing the bare minimum?"

 

1 hour ago, JohnnyLV said:

We need to fire Saleh before the start of the season.

If you saw any of the press conferences this weekend it is pretty clear that this guy is just completely not engaged.

He was lifeless, angry and sullen and showed no interest or passion about the draft or the team. He is already checked out.

There is nothing to suggest he is worth keeping. And before you say "defense" that is really a function of having Sauce, Reed, MC2 and the Williams brothers.

THE Jets will be a better team without him. Make Middleton or Ulbrich the head coach and move on. Saleh is in the bottom 3 of Jets coaches ever

 

 

[Claymation]

3 minutes ago, PS17 said:

It’s all gas bro 

I don't think they are playing pull my finger.

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

Is that 2 grown men having a tickle fight?

@JustInFudge

[Mr. Rogers]

23 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Saleh is one of the best, young coaches in the nfl.  He will lead us to 13 wins this year and get a big extension.

Accept it jet fans!!!!!!!!

I hope so! While I believe HCs must always be accountable for a team's failings, I hope it's not lost on this fan base that most every HC specializes on one side of the ball. The defenses under Saleh have been immense. Obviously a great HC needs to find a great coordinator to help manage the "other" side od the ball, but that's on everyone. Hopefully the offense is real next year and this defense can showcase why we have a chance to break that playoff streak!

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, mrcoops said:

What was quite funny was the interviews with Saleh where he was asked by team reporters what he liked about Fashanu and Corley.

He had this "Why TF are you asking me about offensive players?" look on his face for a few seconds before he remembered that he is supposed to be the Head Coach, and he then launched into generic platitudes about toughness, gas, crows, etc.

Imo, Saleh is the real turd here (though he's been able to hide behind scapegoating a certain player).  He's shown no inclination to be anything more than a DC who has a HC's title and salary.

[TBJ]

Then they should double down and do an absolutely unprecedented move!

Gase would win 3 superbowls with this team!

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

You have to let him coach more than a handful of games with a viable NFL QB. Zach Wilson would have ruined the career of literally every coach in the history of the sport, and the fact that Saleh got stuck with that turd for three years is simultaneously 1. his best excuse for failure and 2. the biggest black mark on his coaching record. 

We're not going to have AR8 for very long so, imo, we're taking a gigantic risk letting Saleh run this ship.  He's a solid DC but he hasn't shown much beyond that.  It was utterly laughable to me that Woody talked about Saleh getting more involved in the offense this year.  If that's really what's expected of him, I think we're in for a rough go of things.  I could see this team getting to the playoffs based on talent but I feel like we're going to be at a major disadvantage when it comes to him trying to outsmart Andy Reid, John Harbaugh or someone like that in the postseason.  Imo, Saleh is the real turd.

 

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"One thing about head coaches is you get better as you get more experience. And he's going to concentrate on offense," Johnson said. "He's got Jeff [Ulbrich] to do the defense. And we've got good special teams. It's offense, offense, offense."

 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, Pac said:

This might be in the top 10 worst threads of all time only because you are serious.  

It's too late to change now but the day Mike Vrabel was fired, JD should've been on the phone with him.  

How good are you going to feel about the coaching matchup if the Jets get to the postseason and Robert Saleh is matched up against Andy Reid or John Harbaugh?