KRL Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm not going to lie and say I've really broken down Hightower's game. But I am surprised at how aggressive we've been going after him. Out of all NE LB's the guys who've stood out to me in the past have been Chandler Jones, Jaime Collins and even Rob Ninkovich. The Jets must have a really specific role for Hightower that they want him to fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 48 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: this doesn't feel right. forget that he's on NE. here we are again, the team is more than willing to throw top dollar on a defensive player while they spend modestly on offense. How many more offensive players do you want? It's all about the QB, we don't know if we have one. Give the Pats, Decker, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, Forte, Powell, another 2 draft picks at TE, RB, with Tom Brady throwing to them, lol. My god, HOW MANY players do you need on offense? I wouldn't mind offense either, but I'm looking at this as a 2 year draft to rebuild. WTF does it matter who we have on offense if our defense can't get off the field like last year? Our secondary is in the worst shape of any part of our football team, plus we're starting 2 young LBs who could use some guidance from a guy who's much younger than Harris & comes from a winning organization. Macc & Bowles are going to rebuild this team whether you like it or not. Hopefully with young guys & young veterans like Hightower. I want Darnold or Rosen too, but I'm not gonna sit here & whine because we might sign guys to improve this team & that means we might win a few more games & screw ourselves out of a high pick. Hightower from the BEGINNING of free agency has been ranked right up there as the top free agents available, so we pay him 5.5 Million more than Harris, whatever, it's not my money & Revis and Fitz, 11 million come off in 2018. Macc knows how to structure a contract based on all of these things. You still have to try & field the best team you can, it's their f*cking JOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Last place I will post this: For anyone who says "he's only 27," while I know we hate math, and especially charts, you may find these interesting: Full Article for explanation of methodology: http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/aging-curve-nfl-defensive-players-dl-lb-db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Barton said: hopefully the jets are just driving up the price. no reason for them to sign a guy like this. overrated. Exactly. But if they give him 12 million I will be very ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, gEYno said: Last place I will post this: For anyone who says "he's only 27," while I know we hate math, and especially charts, you may find these interesting: Full Article for explanation of methodology: http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/aging-curve-nfl-defensive-players-dl-lb-db interesting curve. it would be nice to know what the left side of the graph actually means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, rangerous said: interesting curve. it would be nice to know what the left side of the graph actually means. Points off of top grade. So, peak is set at 0. -2 is 2 points below peak, -4 is 4 points, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady's a catcher Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 12 million per doesn't seem like much to pay an elite level pass rusher. What's that you say? 17.5 sacks in FIVE years? Ohhhhh....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, gEYno said: Last place I will post this: For anyone who says "he's only 27," while I know we hate math, and especially charts, you may find these interesting: Stay away from purple and blue. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: Stay away from purple and blue. SAR I Yup, avoid second contract LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 40 minutes ago, gEYno said: Last place I will post this: For anyone who says "he's only 27," while I know we hate math, and especially charts, you may find these interesting: Full Article for explanation of methodology: http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/aging-curve-nfl-defensive-players-dl-lb-db Interesting chart. Basically suggests you should never sign a high priced defensive FA except maybe at DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Jason Cole @JasonColeBR Told that the #Jets have offered more than $12M per season for #Patriots LB Dont'a Hightower as he gets closer to decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, gEYno said: Yup, avoid second contract LBs. I think that's the most surprising thing -- that LBs age worse than members of the secondary. Makes you think the decline is more about physical wear and tear than diminishing speed/athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, C Mart said: Jason Cole @JasonColeBR Told that the #Jets have offered more than $12M per season for #Patriots LB Dont'a Hightower as he gets closer to decision. I guess they really like him. I think it would be an excellent signing for the Jets were it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, Integrity28 said: RELAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 @MikeSilver According to source familiar with the negotiations, the Jets have been out of the Hightower market since he left the building @nflnetwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, SR24 said: @MikeSilver According to source familiar with the negotiations, the Jets have been out of the Hightower market since he left the building @nflnetwork Someone must have showed Macc the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 So if we are believing all reports... Pitt took their offer off the table when Hightower left. The Jets were out even before that when he left Jersey. So now Hightower is just choosing between the Pats and retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: I think that's the most surprising thing -- that LBs age worse than members of the secondary. Makes you think the decline is more about physical wear and tear than diminishing speed/athleticism. Yes, definitely interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Someone must have showed Macc the chart. Maybe they got the wrong cupcakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Doggin94it said: hard pass at 12M. Sent from my SM-G920T using JetNation.com mobile app Why? Who are you giving it to? In 2018 dead money coming OFF the cap is more than that Revis- 6 mill./Fitz- 5 Mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mike135 said: So if we are believing all reports... Pitt took their offer off the table when Hightower left. The Jets were out even before that when he left Jersey. So now Hightower is just choosing between the Pats and retirement? Mike Silver is an outlier. All other insiders that I've read still have the Jets in the running, with the Steelers rescinding their offer. Most do expect him to re-sign with the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 If you believe Mike Silver, Hightower's agent is doing his job hyping the Patriots to pay more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, SR24 said: @MikeSilver According to source familiar with the negotiations, the Jets have been out of the Hightower market since he left the building @nflnetwork These are those reports that make you laugh when tonight they announce he signed with the Jets. I'm okay either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 IMO here's how it's going to play out. He's going to ask NE to either match our offer or meet in the middle. They'll likely say no and he will be a Jet before tomorrow. Not really sure how I feel about it though to be honest. It's never bad to add high level young talent but at the same time he could just be a product of the Patriots scheme and could be benefiting so much from the elite level coaching and talent around him. I guess I just wonder how good he will be if/when he's not in New England. Would be an exciting sign but idk if it's the right time to add a salary like that to a team that won't be competitive until atleast 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Albert Breer @AlbertBreer Said over the weekend, teams involved believe Hightower will return to NE. Another belief out there: Patriots' offer is the best one he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, C Mart said: Albert Breer @AlbertBreer Said over the weekend, teams involved believe Hightower will return to NE. Another belief out there: Patriots' offer is the best one he has. sounds like he used the jets as leverage, nothing more. and again, i don't understand why the jets would throw that much money on a 27 yr old lb when they're a few years away from contending. would rather use it on a 24 yr old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, gEYno said: Maybe they got the wrong cupcakes. Looked good to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: If you believe Mike Silver, Hightower's agent is doing his job hyping the Patriots to pay more... And Bill Belichick is such a naive moron that he views the Jets as an attractive free agent destination. "Hey Aruba, if you don't give me a better price I'm going to Detroit for my vacation. Ha! Take that!" SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Per Schefter- Hightower back to NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Manish Mehta Retweeted SportsTrust AdvisorsVerified account @_SportsTrust 15s16 seconds ago More Back home to New England. Congrats, @zeus30hightower! #boomtower Dont'a Hightower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 USA! USA! USA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 And that ends that chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicg4360 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Move on already...Way to much money. I don't get how Mac was so diligent not to overpay the first wave of free agents but now he wants to drive a bus of cash into HT's house. I would have far preferred to use this cash and overpaid a CB in FA. He should be looking at more reasonable options such as Minter or Brown. Sent from my Moto Z using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, SAR I said: And Bill Belichick is such a naive moron that he views the Jets as an attractive free agent destination. "Hey Aruba, if you don't give me a better price I'm going to Detroit for my vacation. Ha! Take that!" SAR I Guess Aruba won... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: Guess Aruba won... He must have seen the graph that shows that in the last 20 years, 18 Super Bowl Champions have Blue or Yellow in their uniforms. It's a numbers game. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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