Jets0712 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Last year we had dogs on D now maybe we'll have some fight in those dogsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Jets0712 said: Last year we had dogs on D now maybe we'll have some fight in those dogs Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app lets hope for rabid dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, rangerous said: don't get me wrong. greene was a really good linebacker but he was not on the level of LT or derrick thomas. he made it up with desire and hard work. and most gifted just means having god given physical ability. there are tons of guys who could run faster or bench more or be better jumpers and so on. greene was a great football player. I will take Dick Lebeau's words as gospel when it comes to Greene. He described him as having the strongest upper body of any player he ever coached and one of the most talented pass rushers ever. He also gushed about his ability to stop the run. He is right up there with LT and Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: I will take Dick Lebeau's words as gospel when it comes to Greene. He described him as having the strongest upper body of any player he ever coached and one of the most talented pass rushers ever. He also gushed about his ability to stop the run. He is right up there with LT and Thomas. If Kevin Greene played for the Giants, he'd be considered an all time great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: I will take Dick Lebeau's words as gospel when it comes to Greene. He described him as having the strongest upper body of any player he ever coached and one of the most talented pass rushers ever. He also gushed about his ability to stop the run. He is right up there with LT and Thomas. You guys are splitting hairs here. All the OP meant was he didn't share the ideal measurables that you look for in players. You can say the same about many HOFers. At this point the thread is just mental masturbation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I read a quote from Greene when he stepped away from coaching pros. Something like i am teaching other people's kids to play football while my own kid wants me to teach him. Pretty decent of him, putting family before profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Lil Woody said: You guys are splitting hairs here. All the OP meant was he didn't share the ideal measurables that you look for in players. You can say the same about many HOFers. At this point the thread is just mental masturbation. No hair splitting. The guy is an all time great. Case closed. Some folks like to hang the "not the most talented blue collar lunch pail high motor overachiever has intangibles" on star players that dont fit their ideal of what a pro football player should look like. Ge the drift? Why? Who knows, ask them. By the way you and others mention he didnt have ideal measureables.....can you or anyone tell me what his measurables were?? Is it even fair to say that without knowing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 All I know is that I for one am happy that Mr. Greene is a coach on our team. He seems like a quality individual..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Kleckineau said: By the way you and others mention he didnt have ideal measureables.....can you or anyone tell me what his measurables were?? Is it even fair to say that without knowing? You are right. I can't say for sure. Just going with what I remember. He was seen as a tweener, plenty fast, but not big enough for a 4-3 DE. I also remember him saying that he was an unknown in college, and had to add weight to even sniff playing time his senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: All I know is that I for one am happy that Mr. Greene is a coach on our team. He seems like a quality individual..... absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlZflU2Haqc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 best signing of the offseasonSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Being a great player vs a great coach are 2 entirely different things. I have no idea if his skills as a player will translate well to coaching. Personally, I don't understand all the enthusiasm about this hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 47 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Being a great player vs a great coach are 2 entirely different things. I have no idea if his skills as a player will translate well to coaching. Personally, I don't understand all the enthusiasm about this hire. He did just fine in GB and he's unlikely to be seen sleepwalking on the sideline a la Kacy Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Being a great player vs a great coach are 2 entirely different things. I have no idea if his skills as a player will translate well to coaching. Personally, I don't understand all the enthusiasm about this hire. His knowledge of the position, knowledge of the game, and his passion to teach. I wish Bowles had this guys fire in his blood. Hopefully the players respond well to him, can't be any worse than last year, right??? Well, I will just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Marshmello said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlZflU2Haqc Coaches and players, Bowles is assembling people described as "alphas" who "love the game." I think this will be a great hire and he stays even if Bowles is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 5/8/2017 at 7:54 AM, Maxman said: Two this'es don't make a that. Maybe not, but three lefts make a right. On 5/8/2017 at 11:16 AM, Kleckineau said: I will take Dick Lebeau's words as gospel when it comes to Greene. He described him as having the strongest upper body of any player he ever coached and one of the most talented pass rushers ever. He also gushed about his ability to stop the run. He is right up there with LT and Thomas. Thomas isn't even right up there with LT. You might as well start listing guys like Ricky Jackson. Butkus is probably the only guy I would put up there with that crazy crackhead. HOF and GOAT are not the same. On 5/8/2017 at 11:39 AM, JoJoTownsell1 said: If Kevin Greene played for the Giants, he'd be considered an all time great. Sure. Like Harry Carson. Another guy that couldn't carry LT's jock. 6 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Being a great player vs a great coach are 2 entirely different things. I have no idea if his skills as a player will translate well to coaching. Personally, I don't understand all the enthusiasm about this hire. Maybe because he held the same position in Green Bay when they put up some monster sack numbers? The one year their sack numbers were down, they won the super bowl? I'm sure most of that was Capers and Mathews, but there is no reason people shouldn't be enthusiastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 He will be the interim HC at some point this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, jmat321 said: He will be the interim HC at some point this season That would be perfect, the most Jetsy reactions to Bowles being a failure would be to promote an assistant with no experience, who "makes the players want to run through walls for him" because he speaks the Jockstrapanese that Rex Ryan spoke to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Maybe not, but three lefts make a right. Thomas isn't even right up there with LT. You might as well start listing guys like Ricky Jackson. Butkus is probably the only guy I would put up there with that crazy crackhead. HOF and GOAT are not the same. Sure. Like Harry Carson. Another guy that couldn't carry LT's jock. Maybe because he held the same position in Green Bay when they put up some monster sack numbers? The one year their sack numbers were down, they won the super bowl? I'm sure most of that was Capers and Mathews, but there is no reason people shouldn't be enthusiastic. Harry Carson lol....... really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Harry Carson lol....... really? No Giants fans in your family? You obviously have no idea how awesome Carson, Carl Banks and Simms truly were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 5/7/2017 at 6:44 PM, flgreen said: Does anyone know why he's been unemployed for the last few years? Retirement to be with family. NFL Network did a story on him recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 5/8/2017 at 7:54 AM, Maxman said: Two this'es don't make a that. correct,two this'es make a these, and two thats makes a them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: Coaches and players, Bowles is assembling people described as "alphas" who "love the game." I think this will be a great hire and he stays even if Bowles is gone. Roster him. He'd be the best OLB on our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 6 hours ago, jmat321 said: He will be the interim HC at some point this season Can't be worse than Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Integrity28 said: That would be perfect, the most Jetsy reactions to Bowles being a failure would be to promote an assistant with no experience, who "makes the players want to run through walls for him" because he speaks the Jockstrapanese that Rex Ryan spoke to the fans. 2 hours ago, thadude said: Can't be worse than Bowles That is exactly what I'm thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 19 hours ago, Integrity28 said: That would be perfect, the most Jetsy reactions to Bowles being a failure would be to promote an assistant with no experience, who "makes the players want to run through walls for him" because he speaks the Jockstrapanese that Rex Ryan spoke to the fans. Where is the line drawn though? Isn't that why he was hired as an assistant in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 15 hours ago, jmat321 said: That is exactly what I'm thinking At least Kevin Greene would be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, thadude said: At least Kevin Greene would be interesting I like Kevin Greene....alot. As a LB DE hybrid he has very few peers. Having said that I doubt he is ready to be a HC and who knows if he ever will be. Makes me think of Mike Singletary's stint with SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 He will be the interim HC at some point this season .... made me laugh out loudSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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