HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: How? Revis is listed as 6'. I doubt there is a difference between the 2 If you look at the rosters and wiki, I tried referencing both, Revis is listed at 5'11 and Sanders was at 6'1. ...although I always do seem to think they fudged it back in the day. That's where I got the height from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, HessStation said: Still looking for a breakdown on this one. Pro Football Reference. Com: Darrelle Revis Darrelle Shavar Revis (Revis Island) Position: DB 6-0, 205lb (183cm, 92kg) Team: Kansas City Chiefs Deion Sanders Deion Luwynn Sanders (Prime Time or Neon Deion) Position: DB-WR 6-1, 195lb (185cm, 88kg) 1 inch, 10lbs lighter. And soft as soft could be. Point is not much difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Darrelle Revis Darrelle Shavar Revis (Revis Island) Position: DB 6-0, 205lb (183cm, 92kg) Team: Kansas City Chiefs Deion Sanders Deion Luwynn Sanders (Prime Time or Neon Deion) Position: DB-WR 6-1, 195lb (185cm, 88kg) 1 inch, 10lbs lighter. And soft as soft could be I don't know dude, whatevs, here's the Chiefs roster here. Says 5'11. http://www.chiefs.com/team/roster.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, shevys said: So when "he faced like two good passing games and WRs a year", exactly how old were you? I'm trying to put your fantasies in context. At that point I was working on my seven hundred and forty third lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, HessStation said: Lets give him 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. What other years was he the best CB in football? 11 minutes ago, SenorGato said: 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Pretty much every year he played before his return and his injured season. Oh and the year Tampa miss used him he was good but his strengths were compromised. I just want to put this all down in one post for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I will give gato this, if i had to choose for 1 game between Sanders, Revis and Bailey, it would be a tough decision. If I had to choose 1 player to build my franchise around for 10 years it may be an even different CB altogether(Woodson?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: I will give gato this, if i had to choose for 1 game between Sanders, Revis and Bailey, it would be a tough decision. If I had to choose 1 player to build my franchise around for 10 years it may be an even different CB altogether(Woodson?). Yeah, at their best, so say Revis 09, Bailey 06, Sanders 94, Woodson 93....all played on an elite level. But it's the wacky Jets homers that think Revis' level is somehow unmatched to the other greats. And for that matter his level of greatness only lasted for 3-4 years. Even just the other 3 guys mentioned had much better, more accomplished careers where they sustained their greatness over a longer period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: I just want to put this all down in one post for the record. This post reminds me of that time Mac and Dennis told the timeshare guy that he got got on Always Sunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: Yeah, at their best, so say Revis 09, Bailey 06, Sanders 94, Woodson 93....all played on an elite level. But it's the wacky Jets homers that think Revis' level is somehow unmatched to the other greats. And for that matter his level of greatness only lasted for 3-4 years. Even just the other 3 guys mentioned had much better, more accomplished careers where they sustained their greatness over a longer period of time. Yeah, its a case of unmatched whacky Jets homers. LOL, comic gold. Sorry, didnt realize that to me anything but a homer you have to always put a Jet player down. Makes you what, objective? LOL 3 years is the most clueless line of all. You are in way over your head at this point. Thank god about 400 posts back you said you werent trying to convince anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, HessStation said: Yeah, at their best, so say Revis 09, Bailey 06, Sanders 94, Woodson 93....all played on an elite level. But it's the wacky Jets homers that think Revis' level is somehow unmatched to the other greats. And for that matter his level of greatness only lasted for 3-4 years. Even just the other 3 guys mentioned had much better, more accomplished careers where they sustained their greatness over a longer period of time. How come you’re the first person on the internet I have ever seen equating these seasons? I’ve heard plenty of non-Jets fans talk about Revis’ ‘09 for what it was - a GOAT season from the GOAT. Are these stats from the same mysterious source from a few minutes ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, SenorGato said: Hey, if you want to think that fine by me. I’d take pretty much any great CB from this era over Sanders, but my greats are Revis (GOAT) and Champ Bailey. With all due respect...ARE YOU FREEKIN NUTS?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 And BTW, if a bad last season in NY is reason to keep Revis out of the Hall, what would you have done with Woodson who absolutely sucked for the last few seasons when he was just a hanger on drawing a paycheck to cheerlead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, prime21 said: With all due respect...ARE YOU FREEKIN NUTS?????????? Hes right. No disrespect If Revis was a mercenary like Neon, went from one SB team to another, playing on tons of National TV games while hawking himself as the self proclaimed greatest athlete we would have a different conversation. After all this started over comments that at this age Revis no longer gets his nose dirty playing the run. Something Sanders, never, ever did. Had the cleanest uni on the field. But hey, that was Neon. The guy who said, i dont give a shlt about the fans, they dont pay me to play. Classy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Revis signing still paying dividends I see. Hey, maybe Revis didn't get in on that tackle because--like the time in training camp when he again wanted more money--he was having dizzy spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Yeah, its a case of unmatched whacky Jets homers. LOL, comic gold. Sorry, didnt realize that to me anything but a homer you have to always put a Jet player down. Makes you what, objective? LOL 3 years is the most clueless line of all. You are in way over your head at this point. Thank god about 400 posts back you said you werent trying to convince anyone why would I be looking to convince anyone? Wait. You actually think you're in the majority on this? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And BTW, if a bad last season in NY is reason to keep Revis out of the Hall, what would you have done with Woodson who absolutely sucked for the last few seasons when he was just a hanger on drawing a paycheck to cheerlead? Dont talk about that. All greats were always perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, HessStation said: why would I be looking to convince anyone? Wait. You actually think you're in the majority on this? lol I actually think I'm in the majority? LOL, are you nuts, go outside of the SOJF circle jerk, into the real world before saying something this clueless. This is the same group who debated if C Martin was a HOF RB. Yeah, the majority believes Revis had a 3 year career and isnt deserving of a 1st ballot HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I actually think I'm in the majority? LOL, are you nuts, go outside of the SOJF circle jerk, the real world before saying something this clueless. This is the same group who debated if C Martin was a HOF RB. Yeah, the majority believes Revis had a 3 year career and isnt deserving of a 1st ballot HOF This is sad. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815951 he's a HOFer as I've said repeatedly. Not the GOAT as you keep refereeing as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Can anyone here say they are surprised by Mevis' lack of effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Dont talk about that. All greats were always perfect. Not all of them, all of them that didnt play in green and white. Revis had the misfortune of costing the Jets a playoff win by not making a catch. He didnt give one up, just played the ball, didnt come down with the INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, HessStation said: This is sad. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815951 Oh sh*t, and op-ed list?!?!?! This is more damning than the 147 polled SBN poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And BTW, if a bad last season in NY is reason to keep Revis out of the Hall, what would you have done with Woodson who absolutely sucked for the last few seasons when he was just a hanger on drawing a paycheck to cheerlead? are we talking about 2 different woodsons? I am talking about the raiders/packers woodson. Dude went from one of the best CBs to free safety to stong safety??? cmon man... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Woodson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Jet Nut said: Not all of them, all of them that didnt play in green and white. Revis had the misfortune of costing the Jets a playoff win by not making a catch. He didnt give one up, just played the ball, didnt come down with the INT. All momentum that Mark Sanchez gave them was gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, HessStation said: This is sad. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815951 I would defy the NYjuncs of this board to find and share any 5 lists (subjective or objective) that place Revis as an "all time cover corner" greater than Sanders. It can't be just some subjective Jets fans that feel this way, right? Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Oh sh*t, and op-ed list?!?!?! This is more damning than the 147 polled SBN poll. Lol https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721897-nfl-nostalgia-ranking-the-best-shutdown-cornerbacks-in-history.amp.html heres another. Should I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: This is sad. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815951 One opinion to you is the majority? Some asswhipe you has Revis @ 16? OK. But hey, youre not trying to convince anyone. Youre a broken record trying not to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 According to many "experts" on several websites, Sanders is one the top 10 defensive players of all time. And for those who don't say it then they put him anywhere from 11-20. To say Revis is better or great CB's from this era are better is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, HessStation said: Lol https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721897-nfl-nostalgia-ranking-the-best-shutdown-cornerbacks-in-history.amp.html heres another. Should I go on? ROTFL BleacherReport? By Jah, please do! What does the Weekly World News think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Not all of them, all of them that didnt play in green and white. Revis had the misfortune of costing the Jets a playoff win by not making a catch. He didnt give one up, just played the ball, didnt come down with the INT. Sigh. Dude dropped the biggest INT of his career. Never said it cost them the game. GOAT, Deion Sanders would have caught it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: One opinion to you is the majority? Some asswhipe you has Revis @ 16? OK. But hey, youre not trying to convince anyone. Youre a broken record trying not to be one. Here's BR's list https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721897-nfl-nostalgia-ranking-the-best-shutdown-cornerbacks-in-history.amp.html so I've made three references so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 How about something that is a little less subjective : https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/career_av_career.htm Sanders tied for 46th Bailey tied for 59th Revis tied for 229th Now, admittedly there is some built in bias based on eras, but we have already proven that is not a great factor between these eras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, HessStation said: Here's BR's list https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721897-nfl-nostalgia-ranking-the-best-shutdown-cornerbacks-in-history.amp.html so I've made three references so far You can find all the lists you want. I actually watched them play. Again, thanks for not trying to convince me. And thanks for not allowing others to have an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: One opinion to you is the majority? Some asswhipe you has Revis @ 16? OK. But hey, youre not trying to convince anyone. Youre a broken record trying not to be one. 3 minutes ago, SenorGato said: ROTFL BleacherReport? By Jah, please do! What does the Weekly World News think? 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: How about something that is a little less subjective : https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/career_av_career.htm Sanders tied for 46th Bailey tied for 59th Revis tied for 229th Now, admittedly there is some built in bias based on eras, but we have already proven that is not a great factor between these eras. There's 4 references Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Jet Nut said: You can find all the lists you want. I actually watched them play. Again, thanks for not trying to convince me. And thanks for not allowing others to have an opinion. So since you've now succumbed that you are indeed, in the minority, you're working the, "you've watched them all play" angle? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Was Albert Haynesworth any less dominant at his position in Tennessee than Revis? For a short period of time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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