MDL_JET Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Say the draft goes something like... Browns - Darnold Giants - Barkley/Nelson Colts - trade to Bills - Rosen Browns - Chubb Broncos - Mayfield Jets - ????? A lot of fans here don't want Allen no matter what, so what player would you gladly take over him after calming down that the Jets already failed at trading up for a QB?? (No trade downs, just as is) Nelson/Barkley? Davenport? MINKA? Ward? IMO...I'd take either Nelson or Barkley. I don't wanna take a RB that high but F it, it scares me too much for them to wait till the 2nd and pick the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nelson or Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 It really wouldn't matter because they failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 That's the nightmare scenario there. Either Barkley or Lamar, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Barkley's not making it to 6, lets forget that dream. No more than Rosen without a trade up. So Nelson vs Allen vs Lamar. Easy; Lamar Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'd take Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield at #6. If those three QBs are gone I'd be fine with Barkley, Chubb or even Nelson. And then I'd pray my ass off that Teddy 2.0 turns out to be Teddy 1.0 again. A new Center (Long), Guard (Nelson), QB (Bridgewater) and RB (Crowell) wouldn't be the worst way to enter the 2018 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Mayfield @ #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 At six Mayfield or Allen would of been fine but they better not of given up three second round picks for either of them. Rosen then Darnold then Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I'm am still amazed that the experts love Allen for his "potential", but they don't like Jackson. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I'm am still amazed that the experts love Allen for his "potential", but they don't like Jackson. I don't get it. Jackson isn't 6'5 and is really skinny. He doesn't look like what a QB normally does, nor does Mayfield imo but his passing stats are superior to anyone else's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, CTM said: Jackson isn't 6'5 and is really skinny. He doesn't look like what a QB normally does, nor does Mayfield imo but his passing stats are superior to anyone else's He's 6'3". So, I guess 2 inches in heght outweighs rare athletic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: He's 6'3". So, I guess 2 inches in heght outweighs rare athletic ability. Jackson lacks the prototypical build, and super arm that Allen does. He also suffers from almost identical poor CMP %, and doesn't have the record breaking fastball, but one of the weakest arms in the entire draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: He's 6'3". So, I guess 2 inches in heght outweighs rare athletic ability. 6'2 I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Grandy said: Jackson lacks the prototypical build, and super arm that Allen does. He also suffers from almost identical poor CMP %, and doesn't have the record breaking fastball, but one of the weakest arms in the entire draft. I think I know the answer, but how did you happen upon your “weakest arms in the draft” conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Greenseed4 said: I think I know the answer, but how did you happen upon your “weakest arms in the draft” conclusion? Clocks at the combine, watching tons of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Grandy said: Clocks at the combine, watching tons of film. Watch more film. The kid can sling it, effortlessly. If you watch his combine tape they talk about how he was trying so hard to hold back and be “careful” with his accuracy, but in games (if you want to go back and actually watch) he flicks his wrist and has the ball jump out of his hand on a frozen rope. He is an inaccurate passer, but he’s not a weak-armed QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Watch more film. The kid can sling it, effortlessly. If you watch his combine tape they talk about how he was trying so hard to hold back and be “careful” with his accuracy, but in games (if you want to go back and actually watch) he flicks his wrist and has the ball jump out of his hand on a frozen rope. He is an inaccurate passer, but he’s not a weak-armed QB. Seems that way to me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Greenseed4 said: Watch more film. The kid can sling it, effortlessly. If you watch his combine tape they talk about how he was trying so hard to hold back and be “careful” with his accuracy, but in games (if you want to go back and actually watch) he flicks his wrist and has the ball jump out of his hand on a frozen rope. He is an inaccurate passer, but he’s not a weak-armed QB. he’s got a really nice compact motion and quick release, the only problem I’ve seen is that the ball tends to sometimes flutter instead of coming out as a tight spiral coming out of his hand- you see it mostly on the out routes. part of it might be how much pressure he saw carrying that louisville team behind that garbage OL (sacked 46 times last season) so I think he could benefit greatly if he was drafted by a team that could afford to have him sit initially and let him refine his mechanics. at #3 I think that means he’s out of the picture for the jets but I’d still take him ahead of allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, cant wait said: he’s got a really nice compact motion and quick release, the only problem I’ve seen is that the ball tends to sometimes flutter instead of coming out as a tight spiral coming out of his hand- you see it mostly on the out routes. part of it might be how much pressure he saw carrying that louisville team behind that garbage OL (sacked 46 times last season) so I think he could benefit greatly if he was drafted by a team that could afford to have him sit initially and let him refine his mechanics. at #3 I think that means he’s out of the picture for the jets but I’d still take him ahead of allen I feel like Lamar Jackson is this enigma who is going to eventually light up the NFL unlike anything we've ever seen, and everyone who sees him do his thing on Sunday is going to ask themselves how they missed it in the pre-draft process. Or, he's going to find out what happens when you become too dangerous as an open field runner in the NFL. There's a precedent for protecting QBs, and a dead pool for run-first passers. That said, I think Josh Allen is the smart play for long term success, and I'm willing to stand by that. (Josh Rosen is the smart play for immediate success, and Baker Mayfield is a guy who will entertain and dabble in playoff attendance. The true unknown for me is Darnold. I don't get the hype or the "it" that everyone sees in him. I guess the Houdini act is exciting and fun, but he seems like a JAG to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Rosen is the best pure passer and most Pro ready QB in this draft. The Jets traded up in hopes of Rosen 'falling' to them at 3. But Jet fans should not get too excited. 1-2 more concussions and Rosen might retire. I think Macc knows this but is willing to take the risk. That is a massive concern and IMO a big reason why the Giants are hesitating on taking Rosen at 2 and will either take Barkley, Chubb, Nelson or trade out. If the Giants trade out, the Jets may not get Rosen anyway...and this could be a blessing in disguise if he gets hurt early in his career. Don't be surprised if the Jets end up with Allen. I think Macc will pull the trigger on Allen if Darnold goes #1 to the Browns and Rosen goes #2 via trade with the Giants....possibly the Cardinals or Bills. Again, ending up with Allen might be a blessing in disguise. The concussions are a big concern for me. It's sad b/c Rosen has a ton of talent and looks like he could step right in and dominate if given the right kind of support. If the Gianst decide to go with a QB not named Rosen (or trade out and the team involved takes a QB not named Rosen) the Jets WILL take a chance on him. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Don't be surprised if the Jets end up with Allen. Prepare to be even less surprised if the Jets end up with Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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