ZachEY Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Sam was the best qb in last year’s draft by far. You think so? You didn't like Mayfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TeddEY said: They were 11th in the AFC last year in Rush Defense. 11th of 16. Isn't it great being a Jets fan. All NFL AFC NFC Offense Defense Category... Game Stats Total Yards Passing Rushing Receiving Kicking Field Goals Kick Returns Punting Scoring Touchdowns Offensive Line Category... Game Stats Total Yards Passing Rushing Receiving Sacks Scoring Touchdowns Tackles Interceptions Season... 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 1994 1993 1992 1991 1990 1989 1988 1987 1986 1985 1984 1983 1982 1981 1980 1979 1978 1977 1976 1975 1974 1973 1972 1971 1970 1969 1968 1967 1966 1965 1964 1963 1962 1961 1960 1959 1958 1957 1956 1955 1954 1953 1952 1951 1950 1949 1948 1947 1946 1945 1944 1943 1942 1941 1940 1939 1938 1937 1936 1935 1934 1933 1932 Season Type... Preseason Regular Season Postseason Rushing Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 1 Los Angeles Chargers 16 17 272 430 26.9 2,098 4.9 131.1 11 69T 99 23.0 18 6 5 2 Cincinnati Bengals 16 21.8 349 489 30.6 2,046 4.2 127.9 13 49T 111 22.7 8 1 4 3 Buffalo Bills 16 22.4 359 466 29.1 1,994 4.3 124.6 22 51 121 26.0 14 3 5 4 Indianapolis Colts 16 25.2 404 488 30.5 1,927 3.9 120.4 15 72T 99 20.3 12 2 10 5 Kansas City Chiefs 16 21.2 339 443 27.7 1,890 4.3 118.1 15 27 112 25.3 6 0 4 6 New York Jets 16 23.9 382 466 29.1 1,887 4.0 117.9 13 70 88 18.9 13 6 9 7 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 16.8 268 429 26.8 1,860 4.3 116.2 9 75T 91 21.2 6 2 8 8 New England Patriots 16 18.5 296 390 24.4 1,836 4.7 114.8 6 87T 98 25.1 11 2 6 9 Baltimore Ravens 16 18.9 303 435 27.2 1,780 4.1 111.2 12 59 87 20.0 12 3 5 10 Miami Dolphins 16 24.6 393 431 26.9 1,768 4.1 110.5 14 69 88 20.4 13 3 9 11 Houston Texans 16 27.2 436 440 27.5 1,747 4.0 109.2 14 75T 88 20.0 13 1 4 12 Oakland Raiders 16 23.3 373 433 27.1 1,743 4.0 108.9 11 48T 93 21.5 9 3 6 13 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 19.2 308 385 24.1 1,693 4.4 105.8 14 90T 89 23.1 10 3 4 14 Cleveland Browns 16 25.6 410 467 29.2 1,566 3.4 97.9 14 39 95 20.3 10 0 5 15 Denver Broncos 16 23.9 382 428 26.8 1,430 3.3 89.4 9 47 68 15.9 8 3 4 16 Tennessee Titans 16 22.2 356 398 24.9 1,420 3.6 88.8 5 34 68 17.1 3 0 9 Other Links Hall of Fame Record & Fact Book Rule Book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, genot said: Isn't it great being a Jets fan. All NFL AFC NFC Offense Defense Category... Game Stats Total Yards Passing Rushing Receiving Kicking Field Goals Kick Returns Punting Scoring Touchdowns Offensive Line Category... Game Stats Total Yards Passing Rushing Receiving Sacks Scoring Touchdowns Tackles Interceptions Season... 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 1994 1993 1992 1991 1990 1989 1988 1987 1986 1985 1984 1983 1982 1981 1980 1979 1978 1977 1976 1975 1974 1973 1972 1971 1970 1969 1968 1967 1966 1965 1964 1963 1962 1961 1960 1959 1958 1957 1956 1955 1954 1953 1952 1951 1950 1949 1948 1947 1946 1945 1944 1943 1942 1941 1940 1939 1938 1937 1936 1935 1934 1933 1932 Season Type... Preseason Regular Season Postseason Rushing Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 1 Los Angeles Chargers 16 17 272 430 26.9 2,098 4.9 131.1 11 69T 99 23.0 18 6 5 2 Cincinnati Bengals 16 21.8 349 489 30.6 2,046 4.2 127.9 13 49T 111 22.7 8 1 4 3 Buffalo Bills 16 22.4 359 466 29.1 1,994 4.3 124.6 22 51 121 26.0 14 3 5 4 Indianapolis Colts 16 25.2 404 488 30.5 1,927 3.9 120.4 15 72T 99 20.3 12 2 10 5 Kansas City Chiefs 16 21.2 339 443 27.7 1,890 4.3 118.1 15 27 112 25.3 6 0 4 6 New York Jets 16 23.9 382 466 29.1 1,887 4.0 117.9 13 70 88 18.9 13 6 9 7 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 16.8 268 429 26.8 1,860 4.3 116.2 9 75T 91 21.2 6 2 8 8 New England Patriots 16 18.5 296 390 24.4 1,836 4.7 114.8 6 87T 98 25.1 11 2 6 9 Baltimore Ravens 16 18.9 303 435 27.2 1,780 4.1 111.2 12 59 87 20.0 12 3 5 10 Miami Dolphins 16 24.6 393 431 26.9 1,768 4.1 110.5 14 69 88 20.4 13 3 9 11 Houston Texans 16 27.2 436 440 27.5 1,747 4.0 109.2 14 75T 88 20.0 13 1 4 12 Oakland Raiders 16 23.3 373 433 27.1 1,743 4.0 108.9 11 48T 93 21.5 9 3 6 13 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 19.2 308 385 24.1 1,693 4.4 105.8 14 90T 89 23.1 10 3 4 14 Cleveland Browns 16 25.6 410 467 29.2 1,566 3.4 97.9 14 39 95 20.3 10 0 5 15 Denver Broncos 16 23.9 382 428 26.8 1,430 3.3 89.4 9 47 68 15.9 8 3 4 16 Tennessee Titans 16 22.2 356 398 24.9 1,420 3.6 88.8 5 34 68 17.1 3 0 9 Your list is in order of most yards given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TeddEY said: They were 11th in the AFC last year in Rush Defense. 11th of 16. I just noticed that the team stats I posted and looked at are reversed from yours. Meaning, it's worst first. best last. I assumed the opposite. Im wrong. Lets hope the Jets have a better time of it than I did today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UntouchableCrew Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Mike Maccagnan is a millionaire living in metro NYC and still drinks Dunkin' Donuts coffee every day. He can't "scout" coffee, it's no wonder that he can't scout football players. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 54 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Maccagnan has been nothing short of atrocious in four out of four phases of GM'ing: free agency, drafting, and re-signing his own players, and trading. On the free agency front, he's done nothing but apply short-term bandaids (one/two year stop-gaps) at key positions of need (Terrell Pryor, Kelvin Beachum, Morris Claiborne, Josh McCown, Matt Forte, etc.). On the trading front, he's done very much the same (Brandon Marshall for a 5th, Ryan Clady for a 5th, Ryan Fitzpatrick for a 7th, etc.) and then doubled-down on blowing draft picks by trading up for nobodies like Bryce Petty. In free agency, he blew through $100 million+ signing guys like Revis and Cromartie and then threw more money away at re-signing his washed-up veterans like Davis Harris. He re-upped Brian Winters at exactly the wrong time, overpaying for him, and then managed to somehow get nothing in return (a four year deal) for all that money he spent. Brian Winters will be ready to cash-in again as a free agent at 29 years old; if Maccagnan was going to overpay for Winters, fine - but overpay in years 1 and 2 and get a longer deal locked up so you can recognize savings in years 3-5). Don't sign him to a 4 year freaking deal, where the guy is going to be in the middle of his prime and expecting one last huge payday. Need I even bring up paying Wilkerson a boat-load of money while they watched Damon Harrison walk across the hall to the Giants? How about his drafting, which has been atrocious as well. Sorry, but drafting the lowest-risk players at the least-important positions with the #6, #6, and #21 picks is NOT a Super Bowl winning strategy. It's the sign of a spineless blowhard. Mike Maccagnan is a millionaire living in metro NYC and still drinks Dunkin' Donuts coffee every day. He can't "scout" coffee, it's no wonder that he can't scout football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, SR24 said: I love Macs tenacity in trades and free agency but holy crap this guy might be the worst drafter in the league Nah, he isn’t good in those areas either, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Maxman said: Well I won't disagree that there is a talent deficiency here. But Macc traded up to 3, so I think he stays just for that. I do think the Jets will be viewed as lucky because the Browns and Giants passed. But we have waited forever for a QB, so I don't think the guy that just got him will be fired. That said, the drafting has been terrible no disagreement there. I think he stays. I don’t think he deserves to. One good (lucky) pick doesn’t undo dozens of weak picks and signings and a low success rate and low team talent. And the trade cost us a lot of picks, so it’s not like he did something special there. He had a clear need and traded up only far enough to guarantee the third best at that need. That luck gave us the #1 at that need is luck not skill. But I do agree, his lucky pick probably bought him and Bowles 2 more years min and us two more weak drafts and mediocre seasons, Darnold or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, genot said: I just noticed that the team stats I posted and looked at are reversed from yours. Meaning, it's worst first. best last. I assumed the opposite. Im wrong. Lets hope the Jets have a better time of it than I did today. maybe a good time to stop coming off so brash on the board? Maybe? Possibly? Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: There is NOTHING wrong with giving kudos for Mac for getting Darnold. Did he fall to us? Yes, but without the trade-up, without getting a Jermaine Kearse AND a 2nd pick, we don't get him. Was it a bit lucky, yes....but sometimes you get lucky when you make smart and bold moves. That being said, Mac's drafting history has been under par. He has WAY too many misses. You can't get one pick per year working out. That is how you wind up over-paying in FA, and that never works well. Teams that draft well consistently do well in the NFL....period. We do NOT draft well consistently.....period. I'm not anti-Mac and believe he's been shrewd in other GM aspects that are necessary like trades, contract structures, and netting good "value." But I have to admit that there's more evidence than to the contrary that Mac HAS BEEN THUS FAR sub-par drafter outside of the top 10. His most astute draft move was to trade up for Brandon Shell in the 4th round of 2016 considering the dearth of OL talent that was the 2017 draft. He needs FURTHER investment in the scouting dept. and KEEP HEIMERDINGER AT ALL COSTS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, HessStation said: maybe a good time to stop coming off so brash on the board? Maybe? Possibly? Or not. If I came across brash, it wasn't intentional. I apologize if I did, I enjoy reading everyone's views on the team we root for. Sometimes on this and probably every team sports forum there's instant and sometimes premature judgement on players and play calling. Etc. etc. It's the nature of the beast, I guess. Maybe frustrated with that, I get a little brash. I'll be more chill from now on. I hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: If you go until the Jets following pick, who by the way is ALSO not on the team: Derek Rivers DE Chris Godwin WR Kareem Hunt RB Davis Webb QB (which we now have) Kenny Golladay Shaquill Griffin DB Nico Saragusa G Fabian Moreau CB D'onta Foreman RB Cordrea Tankersley CB Trey Hendrickson DE Carl Lawson OLB David Sharpe OT Julie'N Davenport OT So, you know, almost every-other pick after him is/has shown some good/great potential, but hey...... Whoa, this list is kind of long and I'm lazy. Can you come up w/ a Cliff's Notes version of this post for me? TIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Macc is weird, he seems to scout the random unheralded guys well but can't seem to scout major programs, and I'm wondering if it's an issue with scouting approach. Macc came from Houston under Rick Smith, and receivers picked: 2006: David Anderson (late round) 2007: Jacoby Jones (3rd Rd) 2008: No Receiver of Note 2009: No Receiver of Note 2010: No Receiver of Note 2011: No Receiver of Note 2012: Devier Posey (3rd round) and Keshawn Martin (4th Round) 2013: DeAndre Hopkins (First Round), Alan Bonner (6th Round) 2014: No Receiver of Note 2015: Jalen Strong (3rd Round - I believe a ton of people went crazy over this because Strong was high on draftnik boards, and we traded them that slot). Keith Mumphrey (5th round) 2016: Will Fuller (1st Round) Braxton Miller (3rd Round) 2017: No Receiver of Note 2018: Keke Coutee (4th round) He has no stats, and way too early to tell. So outside of first round guys in Hopkins/Fuller they whiffed over and over again. I'm wondering if it's a scouting philosophy where they are just looking for the wrong things with guys that may have question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Stewart cleared waivers and is now a FA. Rich Cimini (@RichCimini) 9/20/18, 5:55 PM WR ArDarius Stewart cleared waivers. The 2017 third-round pick is now a free agent. #Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Rick Smith was no bright light. The Jets were scammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Jets signed WR ArDarius Stewart and released WR WR Deontay Burnett. This is very important information since supposedly last night's game wasn't a must win... Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 2:32 PM, HessStation said: maybe a good time to stop coming off so brash on the board? Maybe? Possibly? Or not. The ship hasn't sailed on Stewart yet Hess. Now you know why im so brash. Im always right, Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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