kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: lol, you argue like an 11 year old. His self-campaigning is all the time. Not just a remark about him saying we need more talent. In fact, I'd argue that his constant self-campaigning makes his actual insights less poignant. Decision makers tend to tune out the chirpers. At least, that's been my experience. Thank god I don’t take leadership lessons from you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: So are you for celebrating or not? You are not answering the question lol fired this one off like a distress flare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: Thank god I don’t take leadership lessons from you guys. I doubt you could afford my hourly rate, or pass the qualifying exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Integrity28 said: I doubt you could afford my hourly rate, or pass the qualifying exam. Oh dear lord. If you are referring that lawyers are leaders please let me get my laughing kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, kevinc855 said: Oh dear lord. If you are referring that lawyers are leaders please let me get my laughing kit I'm not a lawyer. Lawyers are not the only profession that receives hourly rates. Also, wtf is a "laughing kit"? This is why you wouldn't pass the entry exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: You just implied yourself that safeties don't matter. I've been consistent on that point: Safeties don't matter much, and are never worthy of a Top 10 pick. When used properly they can matter very much, Troy Polamalu kinda mattered a lot for those Steeler Teams, as much as I hated his guts. Dittto Ed Reed and Ronnie Lott. Clueless coaching staffs do figure into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: A safety can’t win you games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 we need more dogs. ok. we also need you to stop blitzing all the time and leaving the defensive backfield an open prairie for chunk yardage.. and while your at it, make some plays in crunch time when the other team is marching down the field to win on its last drive. oh yeah, and some turnoveres... Victor Green (3 INt. 4 FR) had more in his 1st 2 years starting.... ( mouth has 1 and 3) so, you're basically a less productive version of victor green with on a marginally better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 This guy gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: When used properly they can matter very much, Troy Polamalu kinda mattered a lot for those Steeler Teams, as much as I hated his guts. Dittto Ed Reed and Ronnie Lott. Clueless coaching staffs do figure into the equation. Polamalu was taken # 16 overall. Ed Reed # 23 overall. And if you asked Ronnie Lott to play in today's game, he'd likely be used entirely as a Corner, not a hard-hitting safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I'm not a lawyer. Lawyers are not the only profession that receives hourly rates. Also, wtf is a "laughing kit"? This is why you wouldn't pass the entry exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 you eedgits needa go to football remdial school, for reals... Ed Reed 12 INts in 1st 2 years. Troy 7 INT hsi forst 2 years starting... just STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Losmeister said: we need more dogs. ok. we also need you to stop blitzing all the time and leaving the defensive backfield an open prairie for chunk yardage.. and while your at it, make some plays in crunch time when the other team is marching down the field to win on its last drive. oh yeah, and some turnoveres... Victor Green (3 INt. 4 FR) had more in his 1st 2 years starting.... ( mouth has 1 and 3) so, you're basically a less productive version of victor green with on a marginally better team. Ah, Victor Green, love the way that guy played. Could really "lay some wood". Need a lot more like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I can't wait till Gregg Williams comes in and says, my safeties have to cover, my lbs are meant to stop the run so we will have our safeties off the line always. We may blitz one the odd time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: Ah, Victor Green, love the way that guy played. Could really "lay some wood". Need a lot more like him. and i have no problem Jets fans liking a player like this... but ya gotta get some perspective. he's good. Not more. Not great. and not comparable to HOFers at his position by a really really long longshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Polamalu was taken # 16 overall. Ed Reed # 23 overall. And if you asked Ronnie Lott to play in today's game, he'd likely be used entirely as a Corner, not a hard-hitting safety. Good point but we'll never know, will we. Different time, somewhat different game. To predict draft slotting status on these players is disingenuous, but not as foolish as saying that safeties don't matter much. Do Linebackers matter much? Do cornerbacks matter much? Do Defensive Linemen matter much? Good/great safeties fill all those roles at different points on good defenses, don't they? Not sure Ronnie Lott had the speed to play corner on a full time basis, especially later in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: Self-celebration is a hallmark of this team and, frankly has infected the league as a whole. That is a big problem. Especially with this team. That is what must change in order for us to stop, the "sucking". As for the league, f"em, don't care, although it bothers me....a lot. Almost as much as Roger Goodell and the officiating/"rules committee. Get off my lawn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, Losmeister said: you eedgits needa go to football remdial school, for reals... Ed Reed 12 INts in 1st 2 years. Troy 7 INT hsi forst 2 years starting... just STFU Meaning what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Like Jeff Foxworthy telling George Carlin he's not funny. You like me! *hugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Half the DB room quit on the season and the team has won nine games in two years with a defense that’s been an expressway for opposing offenses since he’s gotten here but, yes, leadery leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: Good point but we'll never know, will we. Different time, somewhat different game. To predict draft slotting status on these players is disingenuous, but not as foolish as saying that safeties don't matter much. Do Linebackers matter much? Do cornerbacks matter much? Do Defensive Linemen matter much? Good/great safeties fill all those roles at different points on good defenses, don't they? Not sure Ronnie Lott had the speed to play corner on a full time basis, especially later in his career. Position importance on Defense, ranked: 1. Pass Rusher 2. # 1 Corner 3. Additional Pass Rusher 4. # 2 Corner 5. DT with Pass-Rushing Capabilities 6. Non-Pass Rushing OLB 7a. ILB 7b. Slot Corner 7c. Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I'm not a lawyer. Lawyers are not the only profession that receives hourly rates. Also, wtf is a "laughing kit"? This is why you wouldn't pass the entry exam. I would like to purchase a laughing kit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Hotboy is posting fashion shoot pics on Instagram the week leading up to getting blown tf out by a division rival, after which he says half of his teammates suck, but yes, super leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He’s not technically incorrect, but a real leader doesn’t rip his own teammates like he keeps doing to the media. I don’t think Jamal is maliciously doing anything, he’s just an emotional guy that needs to mature a little. Feels good to hear what he said as a fan, but if you’re a guy in the locker room, he’s basically saying “you all suck and don’t care like i do”. With his high intensity and loud leadership style, that kind of behavior is going to cause some resentment and divisiveness. You already have guys like Q and Kearse having to answer questions about it and disagreeing with what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Lobbying for Leveon Bill is beyond cringey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: You're deflecting. The issue here is that our "leader of men" is really just a self-campaigning malcontent who is willing to go to social media or the press and air dirty laundry. That's not leadership. That's douchebaggery. It's amazing, people here complain that the media here is to blame because all they talk about is Bowles. One poster said the media is the enemy of the people because nobody is talking about Mac. Now a player steps up and trashes Mac and he's a yapping Malcontent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 is there some reason a guy who cant shut his big mouth is being called a leader? talking sh*t isnt leadership. and hes lucky that heinz ward is outta the league cos hed get his clock ******* cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: When used properly they can matter very much, Troy Polamalu kinda mattered a lot for those Steeler Teams, as much as I hated his guts. Dittto Ed Reed and Ronnie Lott. Clueless coaching staffs do figure into the equation. The league has changed and you are basically naming hall of famers. The point is twofold, you basically NEED to be ed reed or Polamalu to be worth a high pick as a safety anymore. the league has become ultra pass happy, emphasizing coverage skills and bigger and faster defenders as training has gotten a lot better. You also basically can’t touch a receiver after five yards, tackle them with your helmet, and receivers get away with pick plays all the time. So safety play is a lot less valuable with the rule changes and evolution of offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Sounds like real team leaders aren’t buying in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: it's funny, because i'm not the one all wound... but if I had been in your shoes, and posted as many stupid arguments as you did, I probably would have opted for the "it ain't me, it's you" gif too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I would like to purchase a laughing kit as well. Act now, and we'll thrown in not one, but TWO -- you heard me right, TWO -- pens that make the girl topless when you turn them upside down. WOCKA WOCKA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: it's funny, because i'm not the one all wound... but if I had been in your shoes, and posted as many stupid arguments as you did, I probably would have opted for the "it ain't me, it's you" gif too You are a troll who never contribute coherently to the dialogues. This is why you aren’t allowed at the adults table yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 43 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: It's amazing, people here complain that the media here is to blame because all they talk about is Bowles. One poster said the media is the enemy of the people because nobody is talking about Mac. Now a player steps up and trashes Mac and he's a yapping Malcontent. This only makes sense as a criticism IF the same people calling the media evil for not going after Mac are also calling Adams a puss-wah for going after Mac. That'd be hypocritical. In my case, I never made the comments about the media. I think they are stupid comments. The media, especially the low-brow sports media, do nothing but echo the loud idiot part of sports fanhood. So, while there may be validity to what you're saying, I don't believe it applies to me and my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, kevinc855 said: You are a troll who never contribute coherently to the dialogues. This is why you aren’t allowed at the adults table yet Oh, okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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