GlennFoley Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=422&threadID=3151267&lastPostID=19409975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well Abe is a good talent but I guess Mangini feels he does not have the heart. Rivers will be a cap bargain in comparison as well. Overall, good deal for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i question why this deal makes sense for SD. They trade Rivers not only will they get a cap hit they don't have any other QB under contract. Who is going to sign Drew Brees long term just after getting his labrum torn? it makes no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Why do you continue to torture us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 This is a long standing rumor- so I will believe it when I actually see an announcement- Brees has a pretty serious injury to trade right now Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Where's GOB when you need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHJF Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 This is a long standing rumor- so I will believe it when I actually see an announcement- Brees has a pretty serious injury to trade right now Rivers No, no, no. It's true. My younger brother's wife has a 2nd cousin, and his step daughter, who's best friend's father used to work as Equipment Manager for the NJ Generals in the USFL, said her grandfather's great grandfather confirmed this from the beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Don't we need to tag Abe first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 that is an ESPN forum, not ES|PN itself...I don't believe it for a second...that guy Dino whatever is a nobody trying to make a name for himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee_Jet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 From Dino Costa article: The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. This says that the Chargers own the 4th pick....WRONG! I don't think Rivers is worth Abe and the 4th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 From Dino Costa article: The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. This says that the Chargers own the 4th pick....WRONG! I don't think Rivers is worth Abe and the 4th pick. Reading is FUNdamental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 From Dino Costa article: The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. This says that the Chargers own the 4th pick....WRONG! I don't think Rivers is worth Abe and the 4th pick. Actually it's the 4th overall pick from 2004 which is true but this sounds too stupid of a deal for san diego to be true. We should have thrown in Pennington too so that between him and Brees they could possibly throw an out together . . . maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Its possible this could happen. But not right now. Jets have to tag Abraham first, and he has to sign it before we trade him. He's not under contract as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Isn't this the same Dino Costa who said the Jets would be letting Herm go to KC and that Heimerdinger was going to be named HC immediately after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 From Dino Costa article: The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. This says that the Chargers own the 4th pick....WRONG! I don't think Rivers is worth Abe and the 4th pick. Classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee_Jet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Reading is FUNdamental. Oooops, my bad. Better put the Vodka & Tonic down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Oooops, my bad. Better put the Vodka & Tonic down. I actually thought the same thing when I first read it but I thought it said we were sending our 4th and JAbe for Rivers, that would REALLY suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Isn't this the same Dino Costa who said the Jets would be letting Herm go to KC and that Heimerdinger was going to be named HC immediately after? he was 1/2 right,,,,,,my guess is his mole in Jets gives this guy stuff,,, at the time i bet that herm to KC and heimer takin over was the Bradway story,,,,,,,buyt then tanny put his foot down and said, no i want mangini and the tanny/bradway power struggle started,,, i think this guy has the story right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Oooops, my bad. Better put the Vodka & Tonic down. Or at least share, then I would have thought the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I could see the Jets doing this, and drafting a pass rusher (Williams???) in the 1st round. But why would SD do this? Feeley may be the one to open the season. He sure did not look too impressive last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I would like to know how San Diego gets around the fact that Brees is a big question mark, is a free agent, and AJ Feely lies in wait as the backup once Rivers is dealt? Franchise tenders will have to be made soon, within a few weeks. Brees is still recovering from his torn labrum. Do they franchise him, with several months of rehab still around the corner? Maybe they pass, since his shoulder is a concern and a possible deal killer to any teams of interest. If Rivers is dealt, would you really want to go into battle with AJ Feely as the primary backup? What if Brees goes down, in a similar fashion as Chad? Too much for me to risk....Makes much more sense to keep Rivers and wait to see how Brees heals. By the time they know for certain, most potential trading partners might be long gone. The Jets cannot afford to wait. They need to know now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Its possible this could happen. But not right now. Jets have to tag Abraham first, and he has to sign it before we trade him. He's not under contract as we speak. Barton, youre right that it can't happen now but if the Jets find the right deal, then the franchise tag is just a formality and a deal can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 im watchin nfl live(or whichever one of the nfl shows espn has on right now)and apparently we're preparing to slap the tag on him...no mention of this trade whatsoever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 one more thing....didnt foley swear us off because we were too mean to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 yes he did, and he comes back several times a week to remind us he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 life is so cruel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 How are we going to trade Abe when he isn't under contract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That website, regardless of your dislike of him, is a valid website and the guy runs a valid radio show. He got teh Herm to KC thing before anyone else. He had Heimer takin over but that might have been the plan before Tannebaum exerted control and told Woody, get anew guy, Mangini. This is a fun topic to discuss so please leave open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That website, regardless of your dislike of him, is a valid website and the guy runs a valid radio show. He got teh Herm to KC thing before anyone else. He had Heimer takin over but that might have been the plan before Tannebaum exerted control and told Woody, get anew guy, Mangini. This is a fun topic to discuss so please leave open. Abe's not under contract. He can't be traded. DO you think the Jets FO is in any shape to give Abe a new deal? Whats fun about nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Abe's not under contract. He can't be traded. DO you think the Jets FO is in any shape to give Abe a new deal? Whats fun about nonsense? Tag him and trade him. Get Rivers in here, and draft D'Brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Abe's not under contract. He can't be traded. DO you think the Jets FO is in any shape to give Abe a new deal? Whats fun about nonsense? he will be franchised in next few days, then jets will sign him to a deal that the chargers and abes agent will agree to. presto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i'm worried that the chargers know something we don't, i.e. rivers can't hack it at this level. why else would they unload him when brees has a torn labrum and their backup is feely? something isn't adding up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i'm worried that the chargers know something we don't, i.e. rivers can't hack it at this level. why else would they unload him when brees has a torn labrum and their backup is feely? something isn't adding up here. Shut up and listen to your dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i'm worried that the chargers know something we don't, i.e. rivers can't hack it at this level. why else would they unload him when brees has a torn labrum and their backup is feely? something isn't adding up here. You're forgetting one important thing, Johnny - the new Jets OC wsa the QB coach in San Diego last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i'm worried that the chargers know something we don't, i.e. rivers can't hack it at this level. why else would they unload him when brees has a torn labrum and their backup is feely? something isn't adding up here. my guess is sd is confient brees wil lbe fine (article in SI last week said his injury much different from cahd and he will be fine opening day),, also rivers was schottehiemers golden choice he convinced SD GM to pick,,since then GM and schottenheimer on terible terms,,my guess GM is exerting power here and easing marty out,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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