If Clowney drops his price are you in or out?

[Wonderboy]

Put the money where it’s needed most. Clowney is a mediocre edge rusher. Often injured as well. His sack numbers don't warrant that price tag. He’s a good DL, but not worth the money he’s seeking. We have greater needs than DE. We have nothing stable at CB, OL needs significant upgrades, wr’s and an edge that can actually get to the QB. But yea let’s spend 15M per year on a DE after wasting a #3 pick on a DT. 
Mantra:

OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR, CB

[Rangers9]

If Clowney doesn’t get his number or his years I’ve read he might sign a one year deal and try to have a good year to build back his value. He might be attracted to play for Williams if he feels his defense could spotlight him. 

[TexJet]

1 hour ago, Wonderboy said:

Put the money where it’s needed most. Clowney is a mediocre edge rusher. Often injured as well. His sack numbers don't warrant that price tag. He’s a good DL, but not worth the money he’s seeking. We have greater needs than DE. We have nothing stable at CB, OL needs significant upgrades, wr’s and an edge that can actually get to the QB. But yea let’s spend 15M per year on a DE after wasting a #3 pick on a DT. 
Mantra:

OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR

You must be another poster that has really not watched Clowney play. He would add a dimension to our team that's missing, a disruptive force.

[Philc1]

7 minutes ago, TexJet said:

You must be another poster that has really not watched Clowney play. He would add a dimension to our team that's missing, a disruptive force.

These are the same people who act like Bryan Thomas and Avery Williamson are “difference makers”

we need Clowney.  Olb is a hole

 

 

[Wonderboy]

9 minutes ago, TexJet said:

You must be another poster that has really not watched Clowney play. He would add a dimension to our team that's missing, a disruptive force.

You must be another poster who thinks without thinking.

[Philc1]

I understand most of you guys hate Clowney but OLB in our roster is a freakin abyss currently

[K_O_Brien]

1 hour ago, Wonderboy said:

Put the money where it’s needed most. Clowney is a mediocre edge rusher. Often injured as well. His sack numbers don't warrant that price tag. He’s a good DL, but not worth the money he’s seeking. We have greater needs than DE. We have nothing stable at CB, OL needs significant upgrades, wr’s and an edge that can actually get to the QB. But yea let’s spend 15M per year on a DE after wasting a #3 pick on a DT. 
Mantra:

OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR, CB

 OL, WR, CB

Ordinarily I would agree. I would love to spend some of the $36m we have available on our offence, but other than o-line depth, I am not sure there is anyone worth pursuing? Some will say Robby, but I think we can get a comparable or better receiver in the third round. 

Trent Williams? Maybe, but I would prefer to find our long-term answer to tackle at 11. 

So if OL and WR can be addressed in the draft, other than o-line depth what should we do now with the rest of free agency? I think this is why we are interested in Clowney. We have the cap space and after Young, this is a mediocre draft class for edge rushers. 

 

[Barton]

At the right price, sure. Be leery though, this is a guy who doesnt play with a fire under his a##. Very Mario Williams-ish. 

Gregg Williams could be good for him, but for how long is Gregg going to be here?

[TexJet]

42 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

You must be another poster who thinks without thinking.

So cute. Again, clearly you have not watched him play. But hey, I'm sure you have greater insight into a former Texans player than I do. Have a nice day.

[PepPep]

47 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

Ordinarily I would agree. I would love to spend some of the $36m we have available on our offence, but other than o-line depth, I am not sure there is anyone worth pursuing? Some will say Robby, but I think we can get a comparable or better receiver in the third round. 

Trent Williams? Maybe, but I would prefer to find our long-term answer to tackle at 11. 

So if OL and WR can be addressed in the draft, other than o-line depth what should we do now with the rest of free agency? I think this is why we are interested in Clowney. We have the cap space and after Young, this is a mediocre draft class for edge rushers. 

 

Disagree with this. Robby is a proven, legit deep threat WR who (despite what some Jet fans say) can run a full route tree. He is a dangerous outside WR and he has good chemistry with Sam. Without Robby, the Jets have Crowder and thats it, unproven guys who barely made the roster: Vyncent Smith, Berrios, Jeff Smith, Vyncent Smith, Doctson, Malone, Chessun. Without Robby the Jets would need to draft 2 WRs EARLY and hope they hit on both. 

So personally, as much as I want that splash pass rush signing, I think JD needs to lock up Robby and then see if Clowney will drop his price or look for a pass rush specialist in Rd. 2 or 3. like Baun, Okwara,  Uche, Weaver, Anae, Willekes, Alton Robinson, Highsmith, Terrell Lewis. All of these guys have strengths and deficiencies but one thing they are known for is getting to the QB and all should be available in that2nd- 3rd maybe even 4th round range.  

[Rhg1084]

Looks like he’s headed back to Seattle anyway, too bad for jets 

[Wonderboy]

22 minutes ago, TexJet said:

So cute. Again, clearly you have not watched him play. But hey, I'm sure you have greater insight into a former Texans player than I do. Have a nice day.

You know what I didn’t see was the 3 sacks he had last year. So Houston let him walk. Seattle now letting him walk after just 1 year. Teams seldom let great players walk or get something in return for them.  Why don’t you take a walk. It would be moronic to spend that kind of cash on a DL after QW was a major bust. Even with QW and Anderson contributing next to nothing, our DL played pretty well. We have other pressing needs of higher priority. Clowney’s high is 9 sacks - (twice in a 6 year career) and only 3 sacks last year 1 2 3.  Jenkins had 8 and we’re letting him walk. I’ll go with Jenks who’d be half the price.

[K_O_Brien]

16 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Disagree with this. Robby is a proven, legit deep threat WR who (despite what some Jet fans say) can run a full route tree. He is a dangerous outside WR and he has good chemistry with Sam. Without Robby, the Jets have Crowder and thats it, unproven guys who barely made the roster: Vyncent Smith, Berrios, Jeff Smith, Vyncent Smith, Doctson, Malone, Chessun. Without Robby the Jets would need to draft 2 WRs EARLY and hope they hit on both. 

So personally, as much as I want that splash pass rush signing, I think JD needs to lock up Robby and then see if Clowney will drop his price or look for a pass rush specialist in Rd. 2 or 3. like Baun, Okwara,  Uche, Weaver, Anae, Willekes, Alton Robinson, Highsmith, Terrell Lewis. All of these guys have strengths and deficiencies but one thing they are known for is getting to the QB and all should be available in that2nd- 3rd maybe even 4th round range.  

Personally I don't rate that Robby that highly tbh. He is ok but I'd rather sign Perriman for 3-4m cheaper and draft those two rookie WRs as you mention. 

Ultimately I think... Clowney + 2rd round WR >  Robby + 2nd round Edge. It's not quite that simple of course but this is an offense-loaded draft and we should take advantage of that. 

Probably all moot anyway. I don't see Clowney signing.

[TexJet]

4 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

You know what I didn’t see was the 3 sacks he had last year. So Houston let him walk. Seattle now letting him walk after just 1 year. Teams seldom let great players walk or get something in return for them.  Why don’t you take a walk. It would be moronic to spend that kind of cash on a DL after QW was a major bust. Even with QW and Anderson contributing next to nothing, our DL played pretty well. We have other pressing needs of higher priority. Clowney’s high is 9 sacks - (twice in a 6 year career) and only 3 sacks last year 1 2 3.  Jenkins had 8 and we’re letting him walk. I’ll go with Jenks who’d be half the price.

So you really haven't watched him play every game as a Texan, which I did. Jenkins is not half the player that Clowney is, though I do like him as a steady, set the edge OLB. Would love to have him back. Texans are run by BOB, enough said. Did you notice the trade of Hopkins for a once was RB? Clowney wanted a boat load of money from Houston. BOB had other thoughts. I did take a walk, was rather pleasant actually.

[Jet Nut]

On 3/20/2020 at 1:27 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

Problem for me is Clowney strikes me as the type that won't be as productive once he gets paid.  

How exactly does one get that about any player from our TVs or computers?

And couldn't we say this about anyone, that once they're handed a huge check their incentive to work is gone?  Except it doesnt happen with everyone.  

[Jet Nut]

5 hours ago, Barton said:

Gregg Williams could be good for him, but for how long is Gregg going to be here?

Are we still on the this?  Last year we had people claiming he wouldnt last more that one year with Gase, for no apparent reason, and that was a miss.

Wheres he going?  You think hes getting a HC gig?

[Barton]

44 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

How exactly does one get that about any player from our TVs or computers?

And couldn't we say this about anyone, that once they're handed a huge check their incentive to work is gone?  Except it doesnt happen with everyone.  

Because the guy has been an underachiever his entire NFL career, that is why. Only thing stopping Clowney from being an all-pro is himself. 

 

[pdxgreen]

Suprised he hasn't signed.  Seattle fans sounded like they were sure he was going to at least be a priority.  Now it seems like everybody is trying to get him at a cut rate.

[LAD_Brooklyn]

DE Jadeveon Clowney update. We are told he is considering offers from 3 teams #Titans #Seahawks #Colts

[Philc1]

7 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

DE Jadeveon Clowney update. We are told he is considering offers from 3 teams #Titans #Seahawks #Colts

Sucks

[kdels62]

7 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Sucks

That’s from that fake insider twitter account. Keep the hope alive

[Philc1]

Just now, kdels62 said:

That’s from that fake insider twitter account. Keep the hope alive

We have a really good secondary now.  If we get any semblance of a pass rush this Defense will be a beast

[kdels62]

1 minute ago, Philc1 said:

We have a really good secondary now.  If we get any semblance of a pass rush this Defense will be a beast

Disagree on the goodness of the secondary. But it has upside and pass rush/ disruptive front seven anchor with Clowney would help the secondary.

[Philc1]

8 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Disagree on the goodness of the secondary. But it has upside and pass rush/ disruptive front seven anchor with Clowney would help the secondary.

Desir had a hamstring injury last season.  He’s going to have a big year for us 

[kdels62]

8 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Desir had a hamstring injury last season.  He’s going to have a big year for us 

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