Dcat Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I'm doing a slow mock on another team message board that I do every year. Friend of mine is a big participant there. No trading and they usually get to the end of round 4. So I got Thomas in round 1. (2nd time that has happened on another team message board mock for me). Right now it's waiting on the Colts at 2.12. I'm a bit disappointed in the remaining WRs for 2.16. Cushenberry is still there and I'm leaning towards him if he lasts. Okwara, lewis, Uche and Weaver are all there too. I have to assume at least one or two more WRs fly off before I pick: Brandon Aiyuk K.J. Hamler Jalen Reagor Michael Pittman Jr. Donovan Peoples-Jones Chase Claypool Collin Johnson Tyler Johnson Devin Duvernay Bryan Edwards K.J. Hill Van Jefferson Antonio Gandy-Golden Gabriel Davis Isaiah Hodgins Quintez Cephus Jauan Jennings Quartney Davis James Proche Lynn Bowden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I love Weaver or Baun if either is there in Rd. 2 if you want to go Edge. I love Claypool if you want to go WR. He tore up the combine. The upside is immense and the production was there his last year at ND. He can step in and produce. People are sleeping on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, PepPep said: I love Weaver or Baun if either is there in Rd. 2 if you want to go Edge. I love Claypool if you want to go WR. He tore up the combine. The upside is immense and the production was there his last year at ND. He can step in and produce. People are sleeping on him. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 That’s my fear with this WR class, by the time 48 rolls around there could be little value for that slot. If OT is taken at 11 the smart play may be to flip one of the 3rds and move up in the 2nd. What WRs went at the top of the 2nd round? I’d take Cushenberry and run in this scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 I picked Thomas in rd 1, when I could have had either Lamb or Ruggs. Cushenberry went 2 picks before Jets. Okwara was the best Edge on the board. And you can see the list of available receivers. So it came down to Aiyuk vs Claypool for me. I chose the Arizona State WR. Now... had I begun with Lamb/Ruggs in round 1, these would have been the available OTs with perhaps one more to account for another team taking Thomas: Cleveland, Wilson, Peart, Wanogho. I am actually starting to think it would be better to go WR in 1 and OT in 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: That’s my fear with this WR class, by the time 48 rolls around there could be little value for that slot. If OT is taken at 11 the smart play may be to flip one of the 3rds and move up in the 2nd. What WRs went at the top of the 2nd round? I’d take Cushenberry and run in this scenario. @Dcat Sec101 captured my fear... we're in a crappy situation as the draft comes into focus. Chances are one of the OT is there at #11, but as deep as this class of WRs is, there's a measurable drop off in talent that we'll be on the wrong side of... The dream of a jefferson or Mims at #48 is just that, a dream. I would take Pittman and just be a peace with it. He's floor is super high, though he might top out as a stalwart #2 - so be it. I think he can be a more physical Cotchery for this offense... @PepPep no one's a bigger Claypool fan than myself. Would love to see him in a Green and White - but he's combine numbers don't translate on the field. He's not going to be a force on the outside, me thinks. He's fast, but the burst doesn't show up on film. He's better deployed as Eric Dekker was, an inside guy who can feast on miss matches vs slot backs and line backers... Pittman is more valuable IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Dcat said: Cleveland, Wilson, Peart, Wanogho. I am actually starting to think it would be better to go WR in 1 and OT in 2. You are correct sir. Uless Bechton, Wirfs, or, Wills is there at 11 (they won’t be) take Jeudy or Ruggs. Nothing against Thomas, but those Bama receivers are too good to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Wait and take Cush. Hes a beast in the Mangold mold. Some good ones will be there in rd 3 with our first pick in round 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Paradis said: no one's a bigger Claypool fan than myself. Would love to see him in a Green and White - but he's combine numbers don't translate on the field. He's not going to be a force on the outside, me thinks. He's fast, but the burst doesn't show up on film. He's better deployed as Eric Dekker was, an inside guy who can feast on miss matches vs slot backs and line backers... Pittman is more valuable IMO Exactly my thoughts. He's a player that everyone was shocked at how fast he ran, and how high he jumped. The reason people were shocked was because it didn't show up in game film. As a TE I like him, as a WR not so much.....at least early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I'd like Aiyuk, Reagor and Pittman there at #48 in your current scenario. But I'd also be interested in what Edge rushers and CBs are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Dcat said: I picked Thomas in rd 1, when I could have had either Lamb or Ruggs. Cushenberry went 2 picks before Jets. Okwara was the best Edge on the board. And you can see the list of available receivers. So it came down to Aiyuk vs Claypool for me. I chose the Arizona State WR. Now... had I begun with Lamb/Ruggs in round 1, these would have been the available OTs with perhaps one more to account for another team taking Thomas: Cleveland, Wilson, Peart, Wanogho. I am actually starting to think it would be better to go WR in 1 and OT in 2. This is how I came upon that same conclusion. Question: was Niang available at #48? He seems like a strong plug-in (or compete with Edoga) RT that could potentially flip to the left side with some development/coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: This is how I came upon that same conclusion. Question: was Niang available at #48? He seems like a strong plug-in (or compete with Edoga) RT that could potentially flip to the left side with some development/coaching. My completely unprofessional and only slightly educated opinion is this.... Wirfs and Wills are the best fit at #11...maybe Thomas. Probably not Becton. However, Josh Jones, Niang, Jackson, Wanogho and even Peart are the exact TYPE of OT that Douglas craves. They're not huge, powerful road graders who plow defenders off the line.....they are athletic zone-blocking guys with mobility. I'm not saying that any of them have more pure talent than any of the Top 4. My argument is purely about fit for the Jets scheme. But based on the scouting reports I've seen these 5 guys are all late 1st to late 3rd round caliber prospects who fit Joe D's style. Example... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Greenseed4 said: This is how I came upon that same conclusion. Question: was Niang available at #48? He seems like a strong plug-in (or compete with Edoga) RT that could potentially flip to the left side with some development/coaching. Niang went at 39. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonderboy said: Wait and take Cush. Hes a beast in the Mangold mold. Some good ones will be there in rd 3 with our first pick in round 3. that was the plan, but he was taken at 46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: I'd like Aiyuk, Reagor and Pittman there at #48 in your current scenario. But I'd also be interested in what Edge rushers and CBs are there. Julian Okwara Terrell Lewis Curtis Weaver Josh Uche Bryce Hall Cameron Dantzler Noah Igbinoghene Troy Pride Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 I like what @IndianaJet in our draft better than what I did in thiers 11. Ruggs/Jeudy + 48. Cleveland/Peart/Niang is better than what I did: 11. Thomas + 48. Aiyuk/Reagor/Pittman/Claypool I've now changed teams to WR at 11. Go JD! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 oof, Aiyuk? I don't trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Dcat said: I like what @IndianaJet in our draft better than what I did in thiers 11. Ruggs/Jeudy + 48. Cleveland/Peart/Niang is better than what I did: 11. Thomas + 48. Aiyuk/Reagor/Pittman/Claypool I've now changed teams to WR at 11. Go JD! I want to find some time today and go back and do a “what if” draft. I got an offer from the Ravens to trade all the way back to the end of the first. I tried to get both of the Ravens 2nd rounders for the big move up but the price was just too high for him. (I think it was beer fish) it would be Interesting to see who I could have drafted with the best offer I got, but ultimately turned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Dcat said: I like what @IndianaJet in our draft better than what I did in thiers 11. Ruggs/Jeudy + 48. Cleveland/Peart/Niang is better than what I did: 11. Thomas + 48. Aiyuk/Reagor/Pittman/Claypool I've now changed teams to WR at 11. Go JD! I've done a ton of mock drafts now that I have so much free time to fill. At first, I was OT. Than I switched to WR. But, now I am at trade back no matter what. OT's that fit our system will be available later. On top of that, the O system does not favor a dominant #1WR you have to force the ball to. The answer is to trade back from #11, and quite honestly from any other spot if feasible, to get more picks. This team is not a few players away. They are a large injection of overall talent away, and this draft is deep at OT and WR, so if JD is good at evaluating players, he can fill those holes and others if he trades back to get more picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I like Aiyuk a lot. I really hate Reagor. I also love Hamler but he’s gonna be a slot guy so that’s not a great pick for us. I think you got the best outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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