The Real Kick in the *** is that the Jags are better

[Gastineau Lives]

Is that the Jaguars are a better team than the Jets. It's not the Jets fault that their schedule happens to be tougher. What are they DOING against those (slightly) tougher group of teams should matter. There's gotta be some sort of formula that includes the schedule PLUS point differential. 

The Jags have a two point loss to the Texans, a four point loss to the Packers, a three point OT loss to the Vikings and a two point loss to the Browns. They're a better team. It's obvious. Their overall point differential is sixty points better than the Jets' is, that negates the percentage points difference in their strength of schedule.

Maybe I'm being crazy (yes, I know, I know) but I'm taking this loss hard and trying to make sense of the fact that the second biggest upset in team history, second to the EPIC UPSET TO END ALL UPSETS in 1969 was only a one point bigger upset than today's game was.

[slimjasi]

Only the Jets could be a historically bad team for basically the entire season and not get the top pick. 

[Gastineau Lives]

Just now, slimjasi said:

Only the Jets could be a historically bad team for basically the entire season and not get the top pick. 

If you were going to design a set of circumstance to elicit the most pain from a fanbase, this is how you draw it up. We deserve better than this. Why shouldn't we have fun more than every ten ******* years?

[TuscanyTile2]

7 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Is that the Jaguars are a better team than the Jets. It's not the Jets fault that their schedule happens to be tougher. What are they DOING against those (slightly) tougher group of teams should matter. There's gotta be some sort of formula that includes the schedule PLUS point differential. 

The Jags have a two point loss to the Texans, a four point loss to the Packers, a three point loss to the Vikings and a two point loss to the Browns. They're a better team. It's obvious. Their overall point differential is sixty points better than the Jets' is, that negates the percentage points difference in their strength of schedule.

Maybe I'm being crazy (yes, I know, I know) but I'm taking this loss hard.

As am I (though it was officially a win).  The rules were set in advance though and I guess they're reasonable enough.  No matter what system you come up with, there will likely always be a way that something screwy can happen. 

I hate the idea of tanking because losing games affects other teams' hopes (and you wouldn't want that to happen to us if we were one of those teams) but we came so darned close to having the 1st pick in a season where it really could've turned around our fortunes for the next 10-15 years.  Once again, we're going to "just miss out". 

I really thought we were so bad this year that there was no chance for a win on this schedule, even despite "any given Sunday".

[Beerfish]

I'm not quite as upset as some because the jets winning a game simply did not surprise me.  I did not think they would win this game but winning one game to screw draft position is something this team always does and it is extremely tough to go 0-16.

It's an expected last F you to the jets and their fans by Adam Gase.

I'm also less upset than some because I do not think Lawernce is the Savior many think.

We still need a QB long term because I do not think Darnold is the guy but this team should be much improved over the next couple of years if Douglas does not botch it.

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

I'm not quite as upset as some because the jets winning a game simply did not surprise me.  I did not think they would win this game but winning one game to screw draft position is something this team always does and it is extremely tough to go 0-16.

It's an expected last F you to the jets and their fans by Adam Gase.

I'm also less upset than some because I do not think Lawernce is the Savior many think.

We still need a QB long term because I do not think Darnold is the guy but this team should be much improved over the next couple of years if Douglas does not botch it.

I just think Lawrence is a bigger draw for potential Head coaches and free agents. We start to get an identity the first minute he walks in the door. We don't have one right now. This is how we wound up with two safeties back to back in the first two rounds of a draft. This is how we wound up taking a QB in the second round of two separate drafts. This is how we wound up drafting defensive tackles in the first five (six?) picks of two separate drafts. This is how you wind up with Todd Bowles and Adam Gase.

[BurnleyJet]

Well no hyberbol, this is the lowest I’ve ever felt being a Jets fan. We literally have no hope, whatsoever. In a division with two young QB’s, with great Head coaches. The other team without a Q.B happens to have Bill Bilichick, the best Coach in the modern era.

The only answer for sanity, is to spend less time and energy on this team because they simply aren’t worth it.

 

[Gastineau Lives]

9 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Well no hyberbol, this is the lowest I’ve ever felt being a Jets fan. We literally have no hope, whatsoever. In a division with two young QB’s, with great Head coaches. The other team without a Q.B happens to have Bill Bilichick, the best Coach in the modern era.

The only answer for sanity, is to spend less time and energy on this team because they simply aren’t worth it.

 

I agree.

[dbatesman]

The fact that 1-15 isn’t enough to get the top pick is just such bullsh*t.

[shuler82]

Last time a one win team didn’t get the #1 pick was the 1-13 Bears. They lost out on a coin flip with the 1-13 Steelers. The Bears traded their pick to Green Bay. Pittsburgh drafted Terry Bradshaw.

[Jetster]

9 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Well no hyberbol, this is the lowest I’ve ever felt being a Jets fan. We literally have no hope, whatsoever. In a division with two young QB’s, with great Head coaches. The other team without a Q.B happens to have Bill Bilichick, the best Coach in the modern era.

The only answer for sanity, is to spend less time and energy on this team because they simply aren’t worth it.

 

Tuas numbers vs a bad Pats team at home 145 yards and no touchdowns. 

Look what Flacco did to the Pats without Gilmore.

Perspective.

[freestater]

It really has the monday-morning-after-a-loss feel to it today. 

**** Adam Gase for bringing me to this point. He's such a ****. 

[DJF71]

9 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Well no hyberbol, this is the lowest I’ve ever felt being a Jets fan. We literally have no hope, whatsoever. In a division with two young QB’s, with great Head coaches. The other team without a Q.B happens to have Bill Bilichick, the best Coach in the modern era.

The only answer for sanity, is to spend less time and energy on this team because they simply aren’t worth it.

 

Thats your fault if you weren't already doing that.

[HawkeyeJet]

I'm not so sure that's true.  It's kind of ironic that the strong finish from last year actually helped us even be in this conversation.

If we had the Dolphins schedule, which includes crossover games against the Bengals and Jags rather than Browns and Colts, would still have been winless by now?  Not sure, especially depending on when the Bengals game would have happened.

[playtowinthegame]

What will really be a kick in the nuts is if the Jets win another game (Browns or Patriots) after Minshew beats the Bears in Jacksonville next Sunday. 

[Gastineau Lives]

7 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

What will really be a kick in the nuts is if the Jets win another game (Browns or Patriots) after Minshew beats the Bears in Jacksonville next Sunday. 

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