Popular Post DoubleDecker Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 Almost 4 quarters in to this Super Bowl and I can't stress this enough, it doesn't matter how many offensive weapons we draft/sign, it won't matter a damn if the QB is running for his life. Get the weaponz but don't forget to "fortify the castle "as well! 22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullblast Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 I think there's universal agreement that the OL needs a huge upgrade this off-season. The debate is how to go about it. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, fullblast said: I think there's universal agreement that the OL need a huge upgrade this off-season. The debate is over how to go about it. I think you we should go about it just like the consensus has been about finding a FQB, you look under any rock to find one. Throw whatever resources you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 You want to know what Mahomes would have looked like on the Jets? This is it. Running for his life and creating plays from time to time. 19 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 We ignored it for nearly 15 years and we wonder why we’ve been as bad as we have. Look at the great Patrick Mahomes reduced to garbage without his guys. Most important in the game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Wall?....no it’s about having a smart QB, good play callers Todd Bowles on D and making plays......it’s pretty simple 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: We ignored it for nearly 15 years and we wonder why we’ve been as bad as we have. Look at the great Patrick Mahomes reduced to garbage without his guys. Most important in the game. So the TB line is unbelievable? Filled w all pros? Give me a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 With eleventy picks this year, we can put at least one more dawg on the line with Becton. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Titan24 said: So the TB line is unbelievable? Filled w all pros? Give me a break Make a play, be smart, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Titan24 said: So the TB line is unbelievable? Filled w all pros? Give me a break It is in fact filled with pro bowlers and rookie who will garner some votes for rookie of the year. Also my opinion is all those years TB had " crap receivers" and won, was because his Oline was great. Whether you believe they held or not, it played a huge roll in their dominance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 @Pac 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Titan24 said: So the TB line is unbelievable? Filled w all pros? Give me a break Well it has two, Suh and Barrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: With eleventy picks this year, we can put at least one more dawg on the line with Becton. Always need more dawgs!!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: You want to know what Mahomes would have looked like on the Jets? This is it. Running for his life and creating plays from time to time. And that’s with guys like Hill and Kelce to throw to 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 Will be our best draft pick since Revis 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Drums said: And that’s with guys like Hill and Kelce to throw to Good point. He is surrounded by top tier skill players and he can’t get the ball to them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Titan24 said: So the TB line is unbelievable? Filled w all pros? Give me a break They have a first round pick at RT. I was told you can’t do that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, DoubleDecker said: It is in fact filled with pro bowlers and rookie who will garner some votes for rookie of the year. Also my opinion is all those years TB had " crap receivers" and won, was because his Oline was great. Whether you believe they held or not, it played a huge roll in their dominance. How bout getting some playmakers, a smart qb, a coaching staff that includes coach Todd Bowles drawing up a plan and have players buy in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Philc1 said: Will be our best draft pick since Revis The OL crowd is strong and very wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 No we just need Deshaun Watson and a bunch of 3rd and 4th roundees. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 so far we have none of that. LFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Titan24 said: The OL crowd is strong and very wrong Fields and Wilson are both going to bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: so far we have none of that. LFG One smart OL draft pick in 15 years (Becton) oh let’s stop investing in OL now That 2008-2010 OL the Jets had had 4x first round picks 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Jet Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Not sure we go this route with a Shanahan offense. But I will confess spending more time than I care to divulge dreaming of this Oline in 2021 before we hired Saleh & LaFleur: LT Penei Sewell LG Joe Thuney C Corey Lindley RG Connor McGovern RT Mekhi Becton 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Becton plus 4 JAGs is not an adequate OL I’m sorry and Justin Fields/Zach Wilson = clowns 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, JH Jet Fan said: Not sure we go this route with a Shanahan offense. But I will confess spending more time than I care to divulge dreaming of this Oline on 2021 before we hired Saleh & LaFleur: LT Penei Sewell LG Joe Thuney C Corey Lindley RG Connor McGovern RT Mekhi Becton Drafted McGlinchey so there is value within the offense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Fields and Wilson are both going to bust I would also be ok with trading back, getting a guard in FA, getting a playmaker and another o lineman later in the 1st round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Jet Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DoubleDecker said: Drafted McGlinchey so there is value within the offense! No doubt. More about fit in ZBS. I know Becton is nimble but not.sure he's an ideal fit. Shanahan Offense doesn't require uber talents at RB and OLine to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 If we trade down with someone like Carolina, then scribble Rashawn Slater’s name on the card and march it to the podium like a boss. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, DoubleDecker said: I think you we should go about it just like the consensus has been about finding a FQB, you look under any rock to find one. Throw whatever resources you need! The problem with some of the ideas is the “need” (for some) involves the #2 overall pick on another tackle. That is most definitely not needed. No champion has ever over-invested so ridiculously. I think they’re so beaten down by the lack of draft investment in the line pre-Becton, and the awful drafting for so many years in general, compounded with JD’s sub-Maccagnanesque FA signings for the line since getting hired. If you’re seeing anything with Tampa, you’re seeing balance. The team is good everywhere. If all they did was constantly sink their top resource into the OL they wouldn’t be in the playoffs, let alone the SB. Tampa has one first round pick on their OL, and he was just taken this season (as a final piece, not a building block). They drafted Smith & Marpet in round 2 way back in 2015, but got nothing out of their rookie contracts since they were wasted on Winston. Under veteran contracts, they’re not worth more as draft picks than incoming FAs would be (actually less, since the latter results in saving the draft picks to use on other starters). Yes the line is in need of upgrades, but not only will they make these efforts but a good GM, with an eye for college talent, can find other starters outside the top 3-6 picks in the whole draft. If Douglas can’t, then we’ve got another Maccagnan and it doesn’t matter anyway. If they stay way up top (and don’t take a QB) as much as some would consider it blasphemy, they’re better off as a team with a CB or edge rusher (presuming they sign a serious FA WR in March). They’ve got more than enough draft picks to find 1-2 OLmen without burning #2 overall the year after using #11 on a LT and hitting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Jet Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Untouchable said: If we trade down with someone like Carolina, then scribble Rashawn Slater’s name on the card and march it to the podium like a boss. Now that's a perfect fit. He's got a lot of young Ryan Clady in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 If Sewell demands a position change in4 years after multiple pro bowls i will gladly eat crow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Still not drafting Sewell at 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: You want to know what Mahomes would have looked like on the Jets? This is it. Running for his life and creating plays from time to time. I think this is overstated. Mahomes is under a good amount more pressure tonight than Darnold has been in the overwhelming majority of his starts. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, JH Jet Fan said: Now that's a perfect fit. He's got a lot of young Ryan Clady in him. I think he could play LT at the next level and be very effective. But stick him at either guard spot or center, and you could have a perennial all-pro for a decade plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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