Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: which numbers? what are you talking about? Hall is off the charts on talent. But lets meet back up after denver. Cook is going to go off OK then, forget Breece: Michael Carter: 5.8 yards per carry, 5.3 yards per touch, 0 fumbles Cook: 2.5 yards per carry, 3.1 yards per touch, 1 fumble 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I mean it was obvious he was done. Terrible signing. Continuing to play him is worse than signing him though. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: OK then, forget Breece: Michael Carter: 5.8 yards per carry, 5.3 yards per touch, 0 fumbles Cook: 2.5 yards per carry, 3.1 yards per touch, 1 fumble how man carries and into how many in the box? A Ferrari is still a Ferrari even if it is in the slow lane. But the school bus ain going fast no matter where it is. You know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: how man carries and into how many in the box? A Ferrari is still a Ferrari even if it is in the slow lane. But the school bus ain going fast no matter where it is. You know this. Cook is more like an old busted Ferrari that was used in a destruction derby and now can only go 10/MPH 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: how man carries and into how many in the box? A Ferrari is still a Ferrari even if it is in the slow lane. But the school bus ain going fast no matter where it is. You know this. In this analogy, Cook is the school bus, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Cook is more like an old busted Ferrari that was used in a destruction derby and now can only go 10/MPH lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: In this analogy, Cook is the school bus, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: how man carries and into how many in the box? A Ferrari is still a Ferrari even if it is in the slow lane. But the school bus ain going fast no matter where it is. You know this. Who cares? Even if he had 8+ in the box on 50 % of his touches you’d still try to make some silly excuse for Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Who cares? Even if he had 8+ in the box on 50 % of his touches you’d still try to make some silly excuse for Cook. nope. It matter obviously because if you compare a rb that is running into a wall verse one that is not, all else being equal, the results woudl paint a much different picture than reality. If a RB is talented or not, can play or not. It is important because you are talking about a good player like cook verse a terribly player like eno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: nope. It matter obviously because if you compare a rb that is running into a wall verse one that is not, all else being equal, the results woudl paint a much different picture than reality. If a RB is talented or not, can play or not. It is important because you are talking about a good player like cook verse a terribly player like eno. Actually we were talking about a JAG Michael Carter vs a toast has-been Dalvin Cook. But you keep dreaming that dream that a toast back can suddenly become un-toast purely due to a good matchup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 3:53 PM, Jetsfan80 said: OK then, forget Breece: Michael Carter: 5.8 yards per carry, 5.3 yards per touch, 0 fumbles Cook: 2.5 yards per carry, 3.1 yards per touch, 1 fumble 22 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 The HC was asked about this today in his presser... He essentially stated that he is not in football shape yet but he is getting better... haven;t we heard that before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, AZSOJ said: The HC was asked about this today in his presser... He essentially stated that he is not in football shape yet but he is getting better... haven;t we heard that before? BS excuses. Cook had a shoulder injury. I have a shoulder injury right now and Im doing more legs in the gym then I ever have before. His legs should never be an issue let alone 4 weeks into the season. Saleh thinks we are total morons. But its his job on the line, not mine. What we do know is he will keep running him cause that is what this coach does with vets. He cant let them go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 alot of cook haters right now, i am genuinely interested if you will all be here next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: BS excuses. Cook had a shoulder injury. I have a shoulder injury right now and Im doing more legs in the gym then I ever have before. His legs should never be an issue let alone 4 weeks into the season. Whoa ho ho Mr Athlete over here 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 23 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Cook is more like an old busted Ferrari that was used in a destruction derby and now can only go 10/MPH But our GM didn’t bother haggling and still paid $8 million for it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: alot of cook haters right now, i am genuinely interested if you will all be here next week. Haters? All he has to do is produce and we would all be giving him the Zach Wilson home coming Queen treatment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg555 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Cook looks for all the world to be washed. We’ll be happily ‘shocked’ if he suddenly comes alive and is a ‘plus’ at running back. not expecting it at his position time to feed Breece for 10+ runs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Biggs said: Haters? All he has to do is produce and we would all be giving him the Zach Wilson home coming Queen treatment. Im going to look for you next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: alot of cook haters right now, i am genuinely interested if you will all be here next week. Depends on how many carries he gets. If it's close to zero, no one will even care about him. I didn't want him but I trusted JD. He's worse than I thought he would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 3:46 PM, Drums said: Depends on how many carries he gets. If it's close to zero, no one will even care about him. I didn't want him but I trusted JD. He's worse than I thought he would be. hard to argue with you . I admit the results so far suck so i can understand people like @Jetsfan80 and why they dont like cook, that doesnt explain how he coudl like a bum like eno, but to your point, the results have not been great, and if he get limited trash carries it will be very hard to try and defnd cook. But i do beleive that B Hall is back and going to get a majority of carries, that Zach will run the offense decently so that there will be running lanes open. I see D Cook coming in and being that secondary back who get 10-12 carries and will run well and even break off some big runs. I am talking like over 10 yards. Say 12 carries for65+ yards. His role on the team is to be a back that can wear the def down and brunt some of the trauma for Hall. So far he has been bottled up but so has hall mostly as well. Everythin opens up with better QB play. We are goin gto see that this week. All that being said, if he does not produce as states against the denver broncos and looks like trash when he as genuiune opportunty to succeed i will admit you guys were right, but I do not think that will happen. I think you gusy are going to be very happy we have cook this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 5:04 PM, BornJetsFan1983 said: alot of cook haters right now, i am genuinely interested if you will all be here next week. It's going to be tough to show our faces when he goes off for 3.5 YPC and a fumble to put the game at risk. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's going to be tough to show our faces when he goes off for 3.5 YPC and a fumble to put the game at risk. no way that happens, but if i fullly agree to pic up pitch fork if cook plays like crap in Den./. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: no way that happens, but if i fullly agree to pic up pitch fork if cook plays like crap in Den./. no way? so far he has 30 attempts for 2.5 ypa and a fumble 3.5 ypa and a fumble would be a significant improvement 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I didn’t realize not liking a way overpaid, toast RB made one a “hater”. Usually that term is reserved for people who are….you know….pretty good at what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 If cook was cut today he would not find another team. he is beyond awful. He should be inactive Sunday. But there seems to be no urgency to win so cook will be force fed down our thoughts again on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 5:04 PM, BornJetsFan1983 said: alot of cook haters right now, i am genuinely interested if you will all be here next week. I’m guessing they will be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Right now? Cook hasnt been good in awhile. Lots of us wanted no part of him on tis team and we were right. This guy stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Right now? Cook hasnt been good in awhile. Lots of us wanted no part of him on tis team and we were right. This guy stinks. you were def not rigth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gastineau_intestinal_tract Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 in his defense the jets aren't very creative with the play calling in his runs. it seems like most/all are run middle plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Lots of us wanted no part of him Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Keep laying that rope right before the Jets play the Enver Broncos. Looking forward to reading this thread Sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, Bronx said: Link? Search “Less than 0” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I didn’t realize not liking a way overpaid, toast RB made one a “hater”. Usually that term is reserved for people who are….you know….pretty good at what they do. Now you know that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: you were def not rigth lol how so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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