Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Plen T said: The league and independent doctors are in cahoots with the Wilson’s? do y’all hear y’all selves? He quit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He quit. Lies.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The dehydration report the team announced was 100% false. I’ll go a step further and double down - even if he was concussed, he no longer is at this point. Between the repeated benchings, team having been eliminated, offensive line being atrocious, he and the Jets are done with each other and he won’t play again this season. Douglas wants to preserve any trade value Zach might have so he is ok with this. Bring on the thumbs down but I’d bet that this will be proven to be true over the next few weeks. Concussion symptoms on average well surpass 1 week. Check the guys put in the protocol for how long the were stuck there they typically miss one game minimum.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 6:14 PM, FidelioJet said: It absolutely affects the team and players... But in the Jets case, most importantly is ownership. Woody, more than any owner, of any team I've seen, seems to make decision with PR being the primary motivation and W/L's much further down the road. Public perception is driven by the fan base and Woody is making decisions based on that. So the Toxicity from the fan base is making football moves....it's an awful cycle. What about the positive fans? What about the guys like @Maxman who are always optimistic and have attended every home game since the Reagan administration? What about all the other homer/optimistic posters on the site and fans all over the world? Does their positivity and support not matter, does their optimism not provide a positive impact? It's only the "toxic" fans that have a negative impact on the team? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Larz who fakes dehydration. You can just give yourself dehydration pretty easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, Larz said: Larz, if we presume that Zach Wilson has a concussion, then it’s safe to conclude that he’s pretty injury prone. Guy has missed an average of four games per year with various injuries, and that’s not including college, where he missed a lot of time with shoulder problems. I mean, it’s not surprising considering how small he is, but when you add that to the stack of problems with Wilson, it makes him an even more pathetic draft pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Larz, if we presume that Zach Wilson has a concussion, then it’s safe to conclude that he’s pretty injury prone. Guy has missed an average of four games per year with various injuries, and that’s not including college, where he missed a lot of time with shoulder problems. I mean, it’s not surprising considering how small he is, but when you add that to the stack of problems with Wilson, it makes him an even more pathetic draft pick. Your hero, Mike White, is much more sturdy. Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, GandWFan said: Your hero, Mike White, is much more sturdy. Lol. Mike White would have sucked down some Pedialyte and got back on the field, pal 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: What about the positive fans? What about the guys like @Maxman who are always optimistic and have attended every home game since the Reagan administration? What about all the other homer/optimistic posters on the site and fans all over the world? Does their positivity and support not matter, does their optimism not provide a positive impact? It's only the "toxic" fans that have a negative impact on the team? The Seahawks have the best fan base in the league. They won and lost a SB when they had the best overall team in the league and above the NFL mean coaches. It flows down from the owner to the GM, coaches and roster. Jets fans are no more or less toxic than Pats Fans or Cowboys Fans. It’s essential an attempt to avoid personal attacks by crapping on the fan base which of course excludes him and everyone else who has embraced the mantra of success through good vibes while failing to acknowledge talent and actual hard work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: What about the positive fans? What about the guys like @Maxman who are always optimistic and have attended every home game since the Reagan administration? What about all the other homer/optimistic posters on the site and fans all over the world? Does their positivity and support not matter, does their optimism not provide a positive impact? It's only the "toxic" fans that have a negative impact on the team? I never once said there wasn't a reason for the toxicity. If people choose to attack a 21 year old kid's family, mother, religion, falsely attack his character and much more - all because he hasn't been good at Football - I can understand why their frustration has led to such actions. I think Woody Johnson is surely up there as one of the worst owners in all of sports and deserving of all the ridicule and scorn he receives. All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Creepy Lurker Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I never once said there wasn't a reason for the toxicity. If people choose to attack a 21 year old kid's family, mother, religion, falsely attack his character and much more - all because he hasn't been good at Football - I can understand why their frustration has led to such actions. I think Woody Johnson is surely up there as one of the worst owners in all of sports and deserving of all the ridicule and scorn he receives. All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. I hate hearing about the Jets fanbase being the most toxic. This is THE most toxic team in all of sports by a landslide and fans have a right to slaughter this disgusting team. There is no team/organization more deserving of it. **** them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Larz, if we presume that Zach Wilson has a concussion, then it’s safe to conclude that he’s pretty injury prone. Guy has missed an average of four games per year with various injuries, and that’s not including college, where he missed a lot of time with shoulder problems. I mean, it’s not surprising considering how small he is, but when you add that to the stack of problems with Wilson, it makes him an even more pathetic draft pick. Was Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford, Herbert, Tua, CJ Stroudt, Watson and any of the other 16 NFL QBs bad draft picks because they were injury prone. How about Mike White? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I never once said there wasn't a reason for the toxicity. If people choose to attack a 21 year old kid's family, mother, religion, falsely attack his character and much more - all because he hasn't been good at Football - I can understand why their frustration has led to such actions. I think Woody Johnson is surely up there as one of the worst owners in all of sports and deserving of all the ridicule and scorn he receives. All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. His family is a major part of the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said: I hate hearing about the Jets fanbase being the most toxic. This is THE most toxic team in all of sports by a landslide and fans have a right to slaughter this disgusting team. There is no team/organization more deserving of it. **** them. Watch how “toxic” the Pats fan base becomes if they don’t make the playoffs for 2 more years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Larz, if we presume that Zach Wilson has a concussion, then it’s safe to conclude that he’s pretty injury prone. Guy has missed an average of four games per year with various injuries, and that’s not including college, where he missed a lot of time with shoulder problems. I mean, it’s not surprising considering how small he is, but when you add that to the stack of problems with Wilson, it makes him an even more pathetic draft pick. So you admit that he didn’t fake dehydration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Mike White would have sucked down some Pedialyte and got back on the field, pal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I never once said there wasn't a reason for the toxicity. If people choose to attack a 21 year old kid's family, mother, religion, falsely attack his character and much more - all because he hasn't been good at Football - I can understand why their frustration has led to such actions. I think Woody Johnson is surely up there as one of the worst owners in all of sports and deserving of all the ridicule and scorn he receives. All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. That's not what I asked you. I asked, what about the positive, dedicated and optimistic fans, why does their positivity not benefit the team? Why is it only the negative fans have an impact? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The Eagles and Philly, have been on a pretty good run over the last decade. Hands down, Philly has the most toxic fanbase in the world...why do their teams not regularly suck? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: That's not what I asked you. I asked, what about the positive, dedicated and optimistic fans, why does their positivity not benefit the team? Why is it only the negative fans have an impact? The toxicity doesn’t matter. @Maxman’s positivity alone outweighs all of the justified negativity so it balances out. He’s our filter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: The Eagles and Philly, have been on a pretty good run over the last decade. Hands down, Philly has the most toxic fanbase in the world...why do their teams not regularly suck? They have a grass field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Biggs said: Was Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford, Herbert, Tua, CJ Stroudt, Watson and any of the other 16 NFL QBs bad draft picks because they were injury prone. How about Mike White? All those other guys were good, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: All those other guys were good, though Fair point. Next year will be 3 years out since Rodgers was good and not injury prone. We gave up up draft capital for him. JD hasn’t been great at QB evaluation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: The Eagles and Philly, have been on a pretty good run over the last decade. Hands down, Philly has the most toxic fanbase in the world...why do their teams not regularly suck? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: The Eagles and Philly, have been on a pretty good run over the last decade. Hands down, Philly has the most toxic fanbase in the world...why do their teams not regularly suck? Counterpoint to this is that Jets fan toxicity impacts the team because Woody Johnson is a ******* idiot who pays attention to and responds to that toxicity. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: Lies. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I never once said there wasn't a reason for the toxicity. If people choose to attack a 21 year old kid's family, mother, religion, falsely attack his character and much more - all because he hasn't been good at Football - I can understand why their frustration has led to such actions. I think Woody Johnson is surely up there as one of the worst owners in all of sports and deserving of all the ridicule and scorn he receives. All I said was the Jets have the most toxic fans base in all of sports. The reasoning for that Toxicy doesn't change the fact that it's true. Chicken and egg. Do you think if Zach had been a very good QB, that the fan base would still have been so “toxic” or critical? Cause. Effect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Counterpoint to this is that Jets fan toxicity impacts the team because Woody Johnson is a ******* idiot who pays attention to and responds to that toxicity. That’s the only relevant argument to be made in regards to the relationship between fan behavior and team performance. Everything else is just childish whining by Fido, as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Counterpoint to this is that Jets fan toxicity impacts the team because Woody Johnson is a ******* idiot who pays attention to and responds to that toxicity. I’m entirely unconvinced that Woody in any way is following the collective will of the majority of our fan base. ie he’s not listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Warfish said: I’m entirely unconvinced that Woody in any way is following the collective will of the majority of our fan base. ie he’s not listening. He kept Rex Ryan an extra year based on a fan poll, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He kept Rex Ryan an extra year based on a fan poll, dude. If you say so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Warfish said: I’m entirely unconvinced that Woody in any way is following the collective will of the majority of our fan base. ie he’s not listening. That’s always been the reporting on him since he’s been here. Collision Low Crossers hammered it pretty hard, too iirc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: His family is a major part of the problem. How’s that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: He quit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, JustInFudge said: That's not what I asked you. I asked, what about the positive, dedicated and optimistic fans, why does their positivity not benefit the team? Why is it only the negative fans have an impact? If you want to tell me the Jets have a very loyal fan base, I will agree. And if there are players that appreciate that - absolutely and does that positivity help them? Sure. Doesn't change the level of toxicity though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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