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45 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

Holy sh*t man, the lengths you're going to lead the anti-Bowers pack is next ******* level.  You are really setting the pace here and it makes me want this to happen so much more than ever.  Mostly because it will make you irate but also because your stance means Bowers is bound be a homerun at the next level.  You're the absolute worst at this sh*t.

He’s not wrong, though. WalterFootball has Bowers to the Jets at #10 with Odunze going #11 to Arizona after trading down. I can only assume that’s a reflection of his hatred for the Jets which is never far from the surface. 

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34 minutes ago, slats said:

He’s not wrong, though. WalterFootball has Bowers to the Jets at #10 with Odunze going #11 to Arizona after trading down. I can only assume that’s a reflection of his hatred for the Jets which is never far from the surface. 

I totally agree with Slats agreeing with TomShane. I've never indulged in conspiracy theory or discussion of hidden agendas, but the mass assigning of Bowers to the Jets is bizarre (unless the tacit thought behind the stated logic is that Woody or AR8 are calling the tune and want BB, a conspiracy that, keeping more in character, I choose to reject).

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2 hours ago, JustInFudge said:

Holy sh*t man, the lengths you're going to lead the anti-Bowers pack is next ******* level.  You are really setting the pace here and it makes me want this to happen so much more than ever.  Mostly because it will make you irate but also because your stance means Bowers is bound be a homerun at the next level.  You're the absolute worst at this sh*t.

Gonna put you on the email list for my mock draft that I’ll be releasing later. Seven rounds, every pick a blurb. 

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39 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Gonna put you on the email list for my mock draft that I’ll be releasing later. Seven rounds, every pick a blurb. 

First round picks and QBs are uninspired low hanging fruit choices for the villain and victim of this years smear campaign 

be bold 

pick a popular player on a cheap contract 

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10 minutes ago, Larz said:

First round picks and QBs are uninspired low hanging fruit choices for the villain and victim of this years smear campaign 

be bold 

pick a popular player on a cheap contract 

Do you want to be on the email list or no

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2 hours ago, slats said:

He’s not wrong, though. WalterFootball has Bowers to the Jets at #10 with Odunze going #11 to Arizona after trading down. I can only assume that’s a reflection of his hatred for the Jets which is never far from the surface. 

I dont really keep up w/ these outlets but are we considering WalterFootball, "the really really good and smart draft bros"? 

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Just now, JustInFudge said:

I dont really keep up w/ these outlets but are we considering WalterFootball, "the really really good and smart draft bros"? 

I don’t consider 98% of them to be good or smart, but that’s just one example from a well trafficked site. 

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14 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Please elaborate on Moses’ injury history?

He’s coming off a torn peck and is on the wrong side of 30. These guys don’t healthier as they get older and coming to play on the worst field in the league isn’t gonna help either. The key to this season isn’t weapons, it’s keeping Rodgers on the field.

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5 hours ago, sec143dmf said:

Was Becton a smart pick?  OT bust just as much as QB's do.  I'm taking a playmaker all day.  Hopefully one of the 3 WR's drop but if not take Bowers. 

Bectons position was a smart pick but Wirfs was the better player. 1st round TEs seem to bust more than OL so idk what we’re talking about here.  Pitts has been abysmal and TJ Hockensen got traded by the team that drafted him in the first….. this team will go as far as Rodgers and Breece take them and their success is directly tied to the OL. 

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4 hours ago, FootballLove said:

Since 2010, only one QB drafted in the first round has won a SB.

You mean only one QB drafted in the first round since 2010?  Cause I count Mahomes three times, Rodgers, Eli, Peyton, Flacco, and Stafford.  I would say Wentz probably deserves some credit cause I don't think CIndarella could have run for too many games.

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3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

You mean only one QB drafted in the first round since 2010?  Cause I count Mahomes three times, Rodgers, Eli, Peyton, Flacco, and Stafford.  I would say Wentz probably deserves some credit cause I don't think CIndarella could have run for too many games.

Ya, I meant only one QB drafted in the first round of the 2010 thru 2023 drafts (13 years) has won a ring....Patty Mahomes.

The conversation started with up to 6 QBs may go in the first round this year. I think 4 went in the Sam Darnold draft, 5 in the ZW draft. But since the 2010 draft, only one 1st round QB has found the promise land.

Pathetic.

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19 hours ago, T0mShane said:

What’s funny about Bowers is that when these really, really good and smart draft bros explain their mocks, they come up with a bunch of reasons why their personal favorite teams aren’t a “good fit” for him. They go on and on about how great Bowers is—he’s Brugler’s fifth overall player—but he won’t fit in Chicago because of the great Cole Kmet? Chargers have literally nothing at tight end. Giants where Darren Waller is probably retiring? Pitts has been a bust, but Atlanta? What about a team like the Jaguars coming up? Hell no. But the Jets, whom they all don’t like, oh hell yeah man. Sure. A nice spot to dump this highly rated player whom they need to shoehorn into the top ten. 

You're definitely not wrong. 

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he’s Brugler’s fifth overall player—but he won’t fit in Chicago because of the great Cole Kmet?

Hilarious!

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1 hour ago, FootballLove said:

Ya, I meant only one QB drafted in the first round of the 2010 thru 2023 drafts (13 years) has won a ring....Patty Mahomes.

The conversation started with up to 6 QBs may go in the first round this year. I think 4 went in the Sam Darnold draft, 5 in the ZW draft. But since the 2010 draft, only one 1st round QB has found the promise land.

Pathetic.

List of quarterbacks taken in the first round since 2014:

2023

Pick 1: Bryce Young (Panthers)

Pick 2: C.J. Stroud (Texans) - Texans got to the playoffs

Pick 4: Anthony Richardson (Colts)

Too soon to tell, but Stroud and the general improvement to the Texans roster got them to the playoffs. They'd be feeling pretty good about their Stroud selection. Richardson looked promising but got injured early in the season. Young is on a dumpster fire of a roster at the Panthers and it's hard to work out whether he's good or not at this stage.

2022

Pick 20: Kenny Pickett (Steelers)

Only one quarterback taken in the first round, and that was the Steelers taking Pickett from Pitt. Turned out that Pickett wasn't as good as the Steelers thought and then chucked a wobbly when the Steelers traded for Wilson.

2021

Pick 1: Trevor Lawrence (Jaguars)

Pick 2: Zach Wilson (Jets)

Pick 3: Trey Lance (49ers)

Pick 11: Justin Fields (Bears)

Pick 15: Mac Jones (Patriots)

Five quarterbacks taken in the first round and they range from god-awful (Wilson) to average (Lawrence). Lance is holding a clipboard in Dallas, Fields will hold a clipboard at Pittsburgh and who knows what happens with Jones and Wilson next season. Lawrence is guaranteed to start with the Jaguars but that's a mediocre roster and a franchise without a history of excelling.

2020

Pick 1: Joe Burrow (Bengals)

Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins)

Pick 6: Justin Herbert (Chargers)

Pick 26: Jordan Love (Green Bay)

Bengals lost a Super Bowl to the Rams with Burrow at quarterback and haven't been back to the Super Bowl since (the Bengals lost to the Bills in the AFC Championship Game in 2022 and then didn't make the playoffs in 2023, thanks partly to Burrow being injured for most of the 2023 season). 

Dolphins went all-in with Tua to try to get to the playoffs, only to get blown out in 2023. They're in cap hell, so not expecting them to repeat.

Herbert was arguably held back by the nimrod in charge of the Chargers. Now with Harbaugh as his head coach, he's probably got a better chance, albeit he's going to have to carry the load a bit more since the Chargers are rebuilding their offensive side of the roster.

Green Bay took the gifts from the Jets and used savvy drafting to put pieces around Jordan Love. He's not got a hell of a lot of experience as a quarterback, despite entering his fourth season, so it's hard to tell whether he's got what it takes to take the Packers back to the Super Bowl.

2019

Pick 1: Kyler Murray (Cardinals)

Pick 6: Daniel Jones (Giants)

Pick 15: Dwayne Haskins (Commanders)

Murray has only had one winning season as quarterback of the Cardinals (2021, when they went 9-5). The Cardinals made it to the wild card round in 2021, but got destroyed by the Rams 34-11, who went on to win the Super Bowl that year. The Giants regretted giving the extension to Jones almost immediately after giving it to him, while Haskins tragically passed away a couple of years ago.

2018

Pick1: Baker Mayfield (Browns)

Pick 3: Sam Darnold (Jets)

Pick 7: Josh Allen (Bills)

Pick 10: Josh Rosen (Cardinals)

Pick 32: Lamar Jackson (Ravens)

Rosen flamed out of the league after one season. Darnold never got it together with the Jets and has bounced around the league. He'll hope he can put the lessons he learned under Shanahan at the 49ers to good use with the Vikings. Mayfield seems to have found a home with the Buccaneers, but they're in that no-man's land of not being good enough to challenge for a Super Bowl but not being bad enough to add the truly elite talent through the draft. Josh Allen has had opportunities to get to the Super Bowl but has failed to grasp them, mostly because of the fact he's had to play against Patrick Mahomes to do so. Jackson always seems like he is on the cusp of leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl, but has never quite managed to get them there.

2017

Pick 2: Mitchell Trubisky (Bears)

Pick 10: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)

Pick 12: DeShaun Watson (Texans)

Trubisky is a bona fide bust. Mahomes is a bona fide Hall of Fame quarterback even if he retired tomorrow. Watson looked like he could challenge Mahomes for the title of best quarterback out of this draft, but since being traded to the Browns, he looks like a mediocre quarterback being paid a bucketload of cash.

2016

Pick 1: Jared Goff (Rams)

Pick 2: Carson Wentz (Eagles)

Pick 26: Paxton Lynch (Broncos)

This is the infamous Christian Hackenberg draft, and thanks to the Jets taking Hackenberg to pair him with Geno Smith (drafted in 2013), the Jets decided that they were set at quarterback and didn't need to look at Mahomes or Watson in the 2017 draft. 

Goff, of course, went to the Super Bowl in 2019 with the Rams under Sean McVay but Bill Belichick's defence shut down the Rams and the Rams cracked in the last quarter to allow the Patriots to score 10 unanswered points and win the Super Bowl 13-3. 

The Rams traded Goff to the Lions as part of the package for Matthew Stafford. In 2023, Goff and the Lions made it to the NFC Championship game where they led the 49ers 24-7 at half-time but the Lions then gave up 27 unanswered points to lose 34-31.

Wentz led the Eagles well until he got injured with Nick Foles coming in to replace him. Foles and the Eagles went on to beat the Patriots, including the Philly Special, in 2018. Wentz had accumulated 3,296 yards and 33 touchdowns that season, against seven interceptions, before he was injured on 10 December 2017.

2015

Pick 1: Jameis Winston (Buccaneers)

Pick 2: Marcus Mariota (Titans)

Only two quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2015 draft, albeit with the first two picks in the draft. Winston is a career backup now, and Mariota is lucky if he even gets a job in the league at this stage of his career.

2014

Pick 3: Blake Bortles (Jaguars)

Pick 22: Johnny Manziel (Browns)

Pick 32: Teddy Bridgewater (Vikings)

All three quarterbacks are out of the league. Bortles had a purple patch of a season in 2017 under Nathaniel Hackett as his OC, where the Jaguars got to the AFC Championship Game, but they lost to the Patriots that year. Bortles reverted back to being a pumpkin and was never as close again to making a Super Bowl (let alone winning one) since. Manziel was a head case. Bridgewater is a case of "what might have been". He led the Vikings to the NFC North title in 2015, but the VIkings lost to the Seahawks in the Wild Card game 10-9 after Blair Walsh missed a field goal attempt that would have given the Vikings the victory. During pre-season practice ahead of the 2016 season, Bridgewater tore his ACL and dislocated his knee joint and missed the entirety of the 2016 season, leading the Vikings to trade for Sam Bradford. 

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8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Gonna put you on the email list for my mock draft that I’ll be releasing later. Seven rounds, every pick a blurb. 

If you have a mock draft, post it on here.  Or are you looking for people to subscribe to your Patreon or some sh-t?

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1 hour ago, Aussie Jet said:

List of quarterbacks taken in the first round since 2014:

2023

Pick 1: Bryce Young (Panthers)

Pick 2: C.J. Stroud (Texans) - Texans got to the playoffs

Pick 4: Anthony Richardson (Colts)

Too soon to tell, but Stroud and the general improvement to the Texans roster got them to the playoffs. They'd be feeling pretty good about their Stroud selection. Richardson looked promising but got injured early in the season. Young is on a dumpster fire of a roster at the Panthers and it's hard to work out whether he's good or not at this stage.

2022

Pick 20: Kenny Pickett (Steelers)

Only one quarterback taken in the first round, and that was the Steelers taking Pickett from Pitt. Turned out that Pickett wasn't as good as the Steelers thought and then chucked a wobbly when the Steelers traded for Wilson.

2021

Pick 1: Trevor Lawrence (Jaguars)

Pick 2: Zach Wilson (Jets)

Pick 3: Trey Lance (49ers)

Pick 11: Justin Fields (Bears)

Pick 15: Mac Jones (Patriots)

Five quarterbacks taken in the first round and they range from god-awful (Wilson) to average (Lawrence). Lance is holding a clipboard in Dallas, Fields will hold a clipboard at Pittsburgh and who knows what happens with Jones and Wilson next season. Lawrence is guaranteed to start with the Jaguars but that's a mediocre roster and a franchise without a history of excelling.

2020

Pick 1: Joe Burrow (Bengals)

Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins)

Pick 6: Justin Herbert (Chargers)

Pick 26: Jordan Love (Green Bay)

Bengals lost a Super Bowl to the Rams with Burrow at quarterback and haven't been back to the Super Bowl since (the Bengals lost to the Bills in the AFC Championship Game in 2022 and then didn't make the playoffs in 2023, thanks partly to Burrow being injured for most of the 2023 season). 

Dolphins went all-in with Tua to try to get to the playoffs, only to get blown out in 2023. They're in cap hell, so not expecting them to repeat.

Herbert was arguably held back by the nimrod in charge of the Chargers. Now with Harbaugh as his head coach, he's probably got a better chance, albeit he's going to have to carry the load a bit more since the Chargers are rebuilding their offensive side of the roster.

Green Bay took the gifts from the Jets and used savvy drafting to put pieces around Jordan Love. He's not got a hell of a lot of experience as a quarterback, despite entering his fourth season, so it's hard to tell whether he's got what it takes to take the Packers back to the Super Bowl.

2019

Pick 1: Kyler Murray (Cardinals)

Pick 6: Daniel Jones (Giants)

Pick 15: Dwayne Haskins (Commanders)

Murray has only had one winning season as quarterback of the Cardinals (2021, when they went 9-5). The Cardinals made it to the wild card round in 2021, but got destroyed by the Rams 34-11, who went on to win the Super Bowl that year. The Giants regretted giving the extension to Jones almost immediately after giving it to him, while Haskins tragically passed away a couple of years ago.

2018

Pick1: Baker Mayfield (Browns)

Pick 3: Sam Darnold (Jets)

Pick 7: Josh Allen (Bills)

Pick 10: Josh Rosen (Cardinals)

Pick 32: Lamar Jackson (Ravens)

Rosen flamed out of the league after one season. Darnold never got it together with the Jets and has bounced around the league. He'll hope he can put the lessons he learned under Shanahan at the 49ers to good use with the Vikings. Mayfield seems to have found a home with the Buccaneers, but they're in that no-man's land of not being good enough to challenge for a Super Bowl but not being bad enough to add the truly elite talent through the draft. Josh Allen has had opportunities to get to the Super Bowl but has failed to grasp them, mostly because of the fact he's had to play against Patrick Mahomes to do so. Jackson always seems like he is on the cusp of leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl, but has never quite managed to get them there.

2017

Pick 2: Mitchell Trubisky (Bears)

Pick 10: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)

Pick 12: DeShaun Watson (Texans)

Trubisky is a bona fide bust. Mahomes is a bona fide Hall of Fame quarterback even if he retired tomorrow. Watson looked like he could challenge Mahomes for the title of best quarterback out of this draft, but since being traded to the Browns, he looks like a mediocre quarterback being paid a bucketload of cash.

2016

Pick 1: Jared Goff (Rams)

Pick 2: Carson Wentz (Eagles)

Pick 26: Paxton Lynch (Broncos)

This is the infamous Christian Hackenberg draft, and thanks to the Jets taking Hackenberg to pair him with Geno Smith (drafted in 2013), the Jets decided that they were set at quarterback and didn't need to look at Mahomes or Watson in the 2017 draft. 

Goff, of course, went to the Super Bowl in 2019 with the Rams under Sean McVay but Bill Belichick's defence shut down the Rams and the Rams cracked in the last quarter to allow the Patriots to score 10 unanswered points and win the Super Bowl 13-3. 

The Rams traded Goff to the Lions as part of the package for Matthew Stafford. In 2023, Goff and the Lions made it to the NFC Championship game where they led the 49ers 24-7 at half-time but the Lions then gave up 27 unanswered points to lose 34-31.

Wentz led the Eagles well until he got injured with Nick Foles coming in to replace him. Foles and the Eagles went on to beat the Patriots, including the Philly Special, in 2018. Wentz had accumulated 3,296 yards and 33 touchdowns that season, against seven interceptions, before he was injured on 10 December 2017.

2015

Pick 1: Jameis Winston (Buccaneers)

Pick 2: Marcus Mariota (Titans)

Only two quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2015 draft, albeit with the first two picks in the draft. Winston is a career backup now, and Mariota is lucky if he even gets a job in the league at this stage of his career.

2014

Pick 3: Blake Bortles (Jaguars)

Pick 22: Johnny Manziel (Browns)

Pick 32: Teddy Bridgewater (Vikings)

All three quarterbacks are out of the league. Bortles had a purple patch of a season in 2017 under Nathaniel Hackett as his OC, where the Jaguars got to the AFC Championship Game, but they lost to the Patriots that year. Bortles reverted back to being a pumpkin and was never as close again to making a Super Bowl (let alone winning one) since. Manziel was a head case. Bridgewater is a case of "what might have been". He led the Vikings to the NFC North title in 2015, but the VIkings lost to the Seahawks in the Wild Card game 10-9 after Blair Walsh missed a field goal attempt that would have given the Vikings the victory. During pre-season practice ahead of the 2016 season, Bridgewater tore his ACL and dislocated his knee joint and missed the entirety of the 2016 season, leading the Vikings to trade for Sam Bradford. 

Nice work.

Every single one of those 1st round QBs brought the fans of the team that drafted them great hopes of winning a SB ring. But just one, Mahomes, paid off.

But that's OK. We drafted "The Best Safety In Da Nation"!

We had our chance, and blew it. I wonder, if we had drafted Mahomes, if Todd Bowles woulda turned him into the Mahomes we all know and love, or would we have just ruined another QB? The Walrus sat Mahomes for a whole year. I don't think that would ever happen on the Jets.

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3 hours ago, FootballLove said:

Ya, I meant only one QB drafted in the first round of the 2010 thru 2023 drafts (13 years) has won a ring....Patty Mahomes.

The conversation started with up to 6 QBs may go in the first round this year. I think 4 went in the Sam Darnold draft, 5 in the ZW draft. But since the 2010 draft, only one 1st round QB has found the promise land.

Pathetic.

To be fair this is more an old qb thing than a 1st round thing.  Mahomes is the only QB drafted more recently than 2012 to win one unless you count Wentz. 

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16 hours ago, SR24 said:

Bectons position was a smart pick but Wirfs was the better player. 1st round TEs seem to bust more than OL so idk what we’re talking about here.  Pitts has been abysmal and TJ Hockensen got traded by the team that drafted him in the first….. this team will go as far as Rodgers and Breece take them and their success is directly tied to the OL. 

Yes. It’s only Rodger’s and breece. How our d plays will have no impact on the season at all.  

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On 4/17/2024 at 8:51 PM, AFJF said:

Not the biggest fan of Brugler but he seems to be a respected (or maybe just well known) draftnik.  Here's what he's got for the Jets.
 

click the link to check out every pick. https://theathletic.com/5418352/2024/04/17/nfl-mock-draft-2024-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

His @Jets picks:

10: TE Brock Bowers

72: S Tyler Nubin

111: WR Malik Washington

134: DL Gabe Hall

185: QB Devin Leary

256: OL C.J. Hanson (Holy Cross)

257: RB Dillon Johnson

 

Disgusting !!

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18 hours ago, SR24 said:

Bectons position was a smart pick but Wirfs was the better player. 1st round TEs seem to bust more than OL so idk what we’re talking about here.  Pitts has been abysmal and TJ Hockensen got traded by the team that drafted him in the first….. this team will go as far as Rodgers and Breece take them and their success is directly tied to the OL. 

I think calling Pitts abysmal is a stretch and expect a great year from him in 2024.  Becton's position was only a smart pick because they only had Fant and Edoga at tackle.  They didn't even have another backup IIRC.  Frankly, I thought signing Fant was a smart move primarily because it allowed us to play a rookie at RT or LT since IMO Fant is more LT but gets paid less than true starting LT.  Then I spent the next two years hearing how he had to draft Becton over Wirfs because "Wirfs can only play RT."  

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On 4/17/2024 at 8:51 PM, AFJF said:

Not the biggest fan of Brugler but he seems to be a respected (or maybe just well known) draftnik.  Here's what he's got for the Jets.
 

click the link to check out every pick. https://theathletic.com/5418352/2024/04/17/nfl-mock-draft-2024-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

His @Jets picks:

10: TE Brock Bowers

72: S Tyler Nubin

111: WR Malik Washington

134: DL Gabe Hall

185: QB Devin Leary

256: OL C.J. Hanson (Holy Cross)

257: RB Dillon Johnson

 

Waiting till the seventh round to draft OL would be a huge mistake.

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19 hours ago, slats said:

I don’t consider 98% of them to be good or smart, but that’s just one example from a well trafficked site. 

I actually like walter football and brugler.  I don't necessarily feel they are good or smart, but they tend to quote league sources and even if they are low down the chain scouts that is worth something.  Walter football tends to actually state the position of the source (NFC assistant GM or something like that). 

One of the problems with these guys is they have to balance what they think of the players with what they think the teams think and the teams are all full of smoke right now.  I don't expect these guys to get it right more often than not, but I think their blurbs can give some insight which is more than I can say from some of the high schoolers watching 3 games draft sites, which I actually also kind of appreciate.

I do agree they seem to be wedging Bowers to the Jets.  I don't the Jets have been leaking much lately, so maybe that is why.  If they really have Bowers rated that high and they think the Jets will take him then I would expect the blurb to read about what a great pick he'd be, but that hasn't been the case.  It's been some manufactured fit bullsh*t.

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On 4/18/2024 at 12:24 AM, Beerfish said:

Jets are weak at S and do have to take one in the draft, he may have done this before we resigned A Davis.   We should not take one in the 3rd round but it would not surprise me at all knowing Douglas.  

Malik Washington and Leary are good picks. Bowers may end up being our top choice depending how things fall.

Malik is nice but I don't think he's there at111

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On 4/18/2024 at 11:31 AM, JustInFudge said:

Holy sh*t man, the lengths you're going to lead the anti-Bowers pack is next ******* level.  You are really setting the pace here and it makes me want this to happen so much more than ever.  Mostly because it will make you irate but also because your stance means Bowers is bound be a homerun at the next level.  You're the absolute worst at this sh*t.

Haha! Daniel Jeremiah, asked where’s the earliest he’d draft Bowers, says “15 to the Colts” despite “loving the player.” Asked why not the Jets, he said the Jets should shoot for Odunze or, failing that, take the tackle. 
 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000652901994

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22 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Gonna put you on the email list for my mock draft that I’ll be releasing later. Seven rounds, every pick a blurb. 

I very much like to be on that distro group, but I am afraid it will end up in my junk mail.

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11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Haha! Daniel Jeremiah, asked where’s the earliest he’d draft Bowers, says “15 to the Colts” despite “loving the player.” Asked why not the Jets, he said the Jets should shoot for Odunze or, failing that, take the tackle. 
 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/around-the-nfl/id680904259?i=1000652901994

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That's an extremely disturbing gif. 

 

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