Here we go again...Why the Jets, Aaron Rodgers will win the Super Bowl

[Joe W. Namath]

18 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

No they are not easily top 3, they struggle to be top 3 and fail at bad times in many games.   They are good not elite as i said,

Do elite defenses even exist anymore?  We have a good a D as any in the league.

 

[The Crusher]

12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

True but the flip side is this D is loaded with pass rushers that get to be unleashed with the offense giving us far more leads.  We’re built to face an opposing offense that CANNOT afford to go conservative against us.  

So yes it’ll be an interesting test for sure.  One I think the D will pass.

Our defense is going to adapt to an offense that consistently gets first downs. 

[Joe W. Namath]

The jets were 2nd against the pass and 3rd against the run.  Overall, only the browns were a better d then us last year.

If you are going to argue the jets d isnt top 3, then tell us who is.

[Jet Nut]

12 hours ago, Beerfish said:

- Our defense is good, not elite.   People have been calling them elite for a few years, they are not.

- Our QB is 3 years from mvp quality play and is close to the fall off the cliff age

 

-People have been calling this defense elite for a reason.  
-How many other teams can claim their QB was coming off of back to back MVP seasons 3 years ago? 

[Jet Nut]

46 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

No they are not easily top 3, they struggle to be top 3 and fail at bad times in many games.   They are good not elite as i said,

When you finish 3rd, you’re 3rd.  Not getting the argument.  
You have to adjust elite to take into account all the rule changes to the offense.

[slimjasi]

41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

True but the flip side is this D is loaded with pass rushers that get to be unleashed with the offense giving us far more leads.  We’re built to face an opposing offense that CANNOT afford to go conservative against us.  

So yes it’ll be an interesting test for sure.  One I think the D will pass.

Incidentally, my big worry about the defense is injuries. We have been relatively healthy on that side of the ball the past two years, while our offense (OL in particular) has been decimated. 
 

I fear that could reverse itself this year. We lose multiple star defensive players for the year, but our offense stays relatively healthy and takes a big step forward, while our defense takes a big step back. 

[Larz]

The guy that doesn’t think complimentary football exists is chirping again lol. 

[Larz]

I’m old enough to remember when the offense was the worst in history and the defense was told “they can’t win if they don’t score “ and they never laid down or even said anything to the media.  They displayed amazing resilience and were always on the field more than the offense which people who understand football know how important that is.  

pro football network 

3) New York Jets

The Jets’ defense faced high expectations before the season, and the group largely delivered. Robert Saleh’s defense deserves a ton of credit for playing hard and keeping the team competitive despite the struggles of New York’s Aaron Rodgers-less offense. This unit should be great again in 2024.

 

imagine thinking this doesn’t matter LOL

 

 

[Darnold's Forehead]

With all this dick riding the media’s doing, I am eagerly awaiting week 1 where we find out the officials were conveniently not given the memo and the BS yellow flags start flying with our name on it.

[Darnold's Forehead]

36 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Incidentally, my big worry about the defense is injuries. We have been relatively healthy on that side of the ball the past two years, while our offense (OL in particular) has been decimated. 
 

I fear that could reverse itself this year. We lose multiple star defensive players for the year, but our offense stays relatively healthy and takes a big step forward, while our defense takes a big step back. 

[Barry McCockinner]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

True but the flip side is this D is loaded with pass rushers that get to be unleashed with the offense giving us far more leads.  We’re built to face an opposing offense that CANNOT afford to go conservative against us.  

So yes it’ll be an interesting test for sure.  One I think the D will pass.

Yeah I like our chances against any team in the league. Not something you can usually say about the Jets.

[bitonti]

17 hours ago, Warfish said:

Cool.

[Bronx]

3 hours ago, Larz said:

I’m old enough to remember when the offense was the worst in history and the defense was told “they can’t win if they don’t score “ and they never laid down or even said anything to the media.  They displayed amazing resilience and were always on the field more than the offense which people who understand football know how important that is.  

pro football network 

3) New York Jets

The Jets’ defense faced high expectations before the season, and the group largely delivered. Robert Saleh’s defense deserves a ton of credit for playing hard and keeping the team competitive despite the struggles of New York’s Aaron Rodgers-less offense. This unit should be great again in 2024.

 

imagine thinking this doesn’t matter LOL

 

 

Hacked Hackett the fraud.  

[BreeceHallofFame]

8 hours ago, Beerfish said:

No they are not easily top 3, they struggle to be top 3 and fail at bad times in many games.   They are good not elite as i said,

Who are the top 3?

[whodeawhodat]

its different this time!!!

[Jetsfan80]

9 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Incidentally, my big worry about the defense is injuries. We have been relatively healthy on that side of the ball the past two years, while our offense (OL in particular) has been decimated. 
 

I fear that could reverse itself this year. We lose multiple star defensive players for the year, but our offense stays relatively healthy and takes a big step forward, while our defense takes a big step back. 

If I had to choose one side of the ball to stay healthy, it would definitely be the O.

[Joe W. Namath]

2 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

Who are the top 3?

Dont ask for facts.  The disease doesnt require facts.

[BP]

On 5/17/2024 at 7:59 PM, ECURB said:

It’s better than rolling into the season with the roster from a few years ago… 

What do you suggest? Just always bitch?

Some fans and the entire jets organization are in denial about how this will play out.

welcome to reality, dude. What do you suggest based on the jets track record of being forever off season champs? Go Gaga like you are all the time? 

[BP]

13 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

What a clown.

Who? Rex? Or Larz? 

[Integrity28]

48 minutes ago, BP said:

Who? Rex? Or Larz? 

Rhetorical?

[Larz]

TRIGGER WARNING 

positivity and respect 

Baldy is all in on the Jets D-line

 

Without question, the New York Jets have one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. One analyst is going all the way with how he would rank the unit.

NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger believes the Jets do in fact have the best defensive line in the league. He made that comment on a recent appearance on the Green Light podcast with Chris Long. He also is excited to see how deep the Jets can get with the group.

“I think they’re going to be eight deep, and I think they are going to play with the lead, something that they never did last year.”

 

The Jets could have a rotation this season featuring Quinnen Williams, Javon Kinlaw, Haason Reddick, Jermaine Johnson, Micheal Clemons, Will McDonald, Leki Fotu and Solomon Thomas. With how the Jets like to rotate the defensive front, all eight should have plenty of chances to make an impact this season.

“I think Jermaine’s on a good trajectory. I think Haason’s a big upgrade,” Baldinger said.

Even with losing Bryce Huff (10 sacks in 2023), the Jets brought in Reddick who has double-digit sacks in four straight seasons. There is a lot of potential with this group this season for the Jets. And if anyone knows about trench play, it’s Baldinger.

[JohnnyLV]

On 5/17/2024 at 4:38 PM, Bronx said:

Why the Jets, Aaron Rodgers will win the Super Bowl

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40115297/new-york-jets-win-super-bowl-2024-season-aaron-rodgers

It has been a minute, but the New York Jets are back. And by "back," I mean legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

And I know what you're thinking: "Here we go again ... every year, same story!" But it's different this time.

Last season, there was understandable hype. The defense was loaded after a terrific 2022 showing, and the offense now had Aaron Rodgers under center. Things didn't go as planned -- it doesn't get much worse than losing your future Hall of Fame quarterback on his fourth snap of the season -- but the defense still played elite ball and helped the Jets to a respectable (all things considered) 7-10 record.

And on paper, the 2024 Jets are substantially better than the 2023 Jets. You'd be hard-pressed to compare this roster with those of the other 31 NFL teams and not come away thinking this is a legitimate title contender. So let's take a look at what New York has built and lay out why the Jets will win Super Bowl LIX next February.

An elite defense

How did the Jets win seven games last season despite operating what was easily the league's worst offense? Simple. They had an elite defense led by coach Robert Saleh and defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich.

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After guiding one of the league's top D units in San Francisco from 2017 to 2020, Saleh took over as New York's coach in 2021. It took him a year (the Jets were last in defensive EPA in 2021), but he quickly turned things around (they ranked fourth in 2022 and third in 2023). The Jets' defense has delivered in all phases, including ranking among the top four in yardage allowed and finishing seventh in sacks in each of the past two seasons.

The future looks bright for a unit that will return eight of its top nine participants (by snaps) from 2023. That list includes standout off-ball linebackers C.J. Mosley and Quincy Williams, an elite cornerback trio in Sauce Gardner, D.J. Reed and Michael Carter, and one of the league's best defensive tackles in Quinnen Williams.

The edge rusher room will have a slightly different look, but it might be better, with Haason Reddick (fourth in the league with 54 sacks over the past four seasons) in and John Franklin-Myers and Bryce Huff out. Reddick will join 2022 first-round pick Jermaine Johnson (7.5 sacks during a breakout 2023 campaign) as the team's starting duo, with 2023 first-rounder Will McDonald IV -- who was limited to 177 snaps as a rookie because of the team's excellent depth at the position -- set up for a leap forward in Year 2.

Safety is a potential weak spot after the departure of Jordan Whitehead, though the savvy and cheap addition of Chuck Clark shouldn't be overlooked. Clark missed all of 2023 with a torn ACL, but he posted 284 tackles (ninth most among safeties) with Baltimore over 2020-22. He provides a quality running mate for returning starter Tony Adams, who was solid on 845 snaps last season. Tackle depth behind Williams is probably the bigger concern for this defense, though putting experienced innings-eaters such as Javon Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas and Leki Fotu on the field shouldn't prove overly detrimental.

Simply put, the Jets' defense remains elite on paper, and there's little reason to expect a regression from the past two seasons.

Much-improved offensive supporting cast
All eyes were on Rodgers last offseason, which distracted from the fact that his offensive supporting cast wasn't particularly good. Running back Breece Hall was recovering from a torn ACL, the wide receiver room was arguably the worst in the league behind Garrett Wilson and offensive tackle was a major concern.

Things are in a much better spot entering 2024.

Hall (understandably) started slow last season, but his usage increased progressively through the season. He had his lowest snap share in Week 1 and his highest in Week 18. The 2022 second-round pick overcame the team's offensive struggles to finish second among all running backs in scrimmage yards (1,585), as well as first in targets (94), receptions (76) and receiving yardage (591). Hall, who turns 23 this summer, has already solidified himself as one of the game's best running backs.

At wide receiver, the Jets have an ace. Wilson is the real deal. The 2022 first-rounder is fourth in the league in targets (315) since he was drafted, trailing only Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill and CeeDee Lamb. Of course, he's 14th in receptions (178), 19th in yards (2,145) and tied for 59th in touchdowns (7) during that span mainly because of the team's dreadful quarterback play.

During the offseason, the Jets signed big man Mike Williams and drafted short-range after-the-catch specialist Malachi Corley, which provides a big upgrade on last season's secondary receivers Xavier Gipson, Allen Lazard, Jason Brownlee and Randall Cobb.

Add in underrated tight end Tyler Conklin (one of four TEs with 58-plus receptions each of the past three seasons), and Rodgers has the support he needs to produce at a high level. That's especially the case when you consider that he'll also have the benefit of a solid line protecting him.

Formidable offensive line
Heading into the 2023 season, I wrote that New York's offensive tackle situation was one of the league's biggest X factors. Duane Brown and Mekhi Becton were wild cards, and neither panned out. Brown appeared in only two games because of various injuries, whereas Becton finally stayed upright but struggled and wasn't re-signed. The team mixed and matched along the line all season long and ended up ranked 30th in pass block win rate and 29th in run block win rate.

The line was clearly a big problem, and the Jets' front office took action, moving on from tackles Becton, Brown and Billy Turner, as well as interior linemen Laken Tomlinson and Connor McGovern. The five players were responsible for 2,636 (or 50.3%) of the team's offensive line snaps in 2023.

The new-look line will have at least four new Week 1 starters. The lone potential returning starter is right guard Alijah Vera-Tucker, who has been an above-average producer when healthy since he was selected in the first round in 2021. Vera-Tucker tore an Achilles while being forced into right tackle duties in Week 5 last season, but is on track to return for the start of the season. He will be joined on the interior by veteran addition John Simpson (LG) and 2023 second-round pick Joe Tippmann (C). Neither was overly impressive in 2023, but Simpson was above-average as a pass-blocker on 1,191 snaps with Baltimore, and Tippmann is a good bet for a leap forward in his second pro season

Lol. We will be  like 5and 6 at the bye. Rodgers will be injured and Jordan Travis will lead us to a 6 game losing streak. Woody fires everyone, Rodgers quits. We are the worst team in the NFL in 2025 and gave the 1st pick. And the cycle continues 

[Joe W. Namath]

After the niners, we face Levis, Brissett, nix and darnold.  What a joke.

We will be 4-1 going into the bills game.  The schedule really broke our way.

Get ready jet fans.  If rodgers stays healthy, this is a 13 win team.

Enjoy it fellas!!!

[usanyj]

On 5/18/2024 at 10:15 AM, T0mShane said:

With the free agent adds, it’s like a time honored tradition to get pumped up about the names and ignore the fact that better-run teams willfully cast them out despite those players wanting to return to those teams. Tyron Smith had no market despite being a future HoF. Twenty different teams were and are desperate for receiver help, and Mike Williams had no market. Ashtyn Davis was begging for a new team and had zero bites. The Ravens threw Moses and Simpson out the door without having proven replacements on the roster. Even in the case of Reddick, the Eagles ate $21 mil to get rid of him, then gave a ton of money to Bryce Huff. This isn’t to say that these signing were bad, but it’s always worth taking a beat to remember that it’s usually bad process to pick up dudes that better teams didn’t want anymore. 

Isn't that what free agency is most of the time?  By that standard, why even sign free agents?

Alan Faneca was tossed aside by the steelers then, Bart Scott was given up on by the ravens, And then I guess Bryce Huff was thrown away by the jets?

That's free agency....Mike Williams had multiple visits lined up so there was a "market", and the jets (and a sandwich) didn't let him leave the building.

Sometimes teams can't afford guys and sometimes guys are looking for a fresh start or a team wants to reset and it has nothing to do with the player himself.

[RevisIsland610]

On 5/18/2024 at 10:21 AM, Beerfish said:

No they are not easily top 3, they struggle to be top 3 and fail at bad times in many games.   They are good not elite as i said,

What top defense last year had to deal with their offense being so dysfunctional and therefore being on the field so much game after game? That QB group and offense was almost historically bad last year.  Lets see how they do with a functioning NFL offense this year. 

[RevisIsland610]

10 hours ago, usanyj said:

Isn't that what free agency is most of the time?  By that standard, why even sign free agents?

Alan Faneca was tossed aside by the steelers then, Bart Scott was given up on by the ravens, And then I guess Bryce Huff was thrown away by the jets?

That's free agency....Mike Williams had multiple visits lined up so there was a "market", and the jets (and a sandwich) didn't let him leave the building.

Sometimes teams can't afford guys and sometimes guys are looking for a fresh start or a team wants to reset and it has nothing to do with the player himself.

Exactly this. Quincy Williams was another player given away for nothing. 

[Larz]

Honestly feel bad for the guys that would rather have the Panthers, no players, no expectations 

 

 

[Larz]

 

[Larz]

 

[Larz]

 

[Larz]

 

[Larz]

This roster is ******* loaded. 
 

feel bad for the crying in the shower crowd to be honest 

[ECURB]

It is just going to be that much sweeter for us fools that allowed ourselves to enjoy the journey instead of bitching and moaning.

[Rich Thornburgh]

This will end well

[Joe W. Namath]

Dont be scared boys.  We will win 13 games if Rodgers stays healthy.  Enjoy the ride.