Reddick Holdout Over

[jgb]

Just now, bicketybam said:

Find me anyone that thinks the Jets have four losses because the didn't have Haason Reddick on the field. I'll be here waiting.

Never said four. Argumentum ad absurdum, same as a concession.

[Scott Dierking]

So , if I have an hourly job that I am scheduled for forty hours a week, and I only work 20 hours, but get paid for my scheduled 40 hours, who wins?

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

Never said four. Argumentum ad absurdum, same as a concession.

Find me one person that can name a game we lost but would have won with Reddick. Come on, Chief. 

[section314]

2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

So , if I have an hourly job that I am scheduled for forty hours a week, and I only work 20 hours, but get paid for my scheduled 40 hours, who wins?

The IRS?  😎Kidding, very fair point.👍

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

So , if I have an hourly job that I am scheduled for forty hours a week, and I only work 20 hours, but get paid for my scheduled 40 hours, who wins?

What does that have to do with the Reddick situation? 

The best Reddick can do is earn his original prorated salary provided he hits certain incentives that he is not guaranteed to achieve. This isn't hard to figure out. 

[bicketybam]

13 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

The Jets wanted Reddick for this year and didn't want to commit to a long term deal. They didn't even have an issue paying him more for this year but Reddick wanted an extension with guaranteed money. Jets got him in the field without extending him. Reddick didn't get anything he wanted. How anyone thinks Reddick did well here is beyond me. 

@Fantasy Island What did I write here that is incorrect? 

[Scott Dierking]

2 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

What does that have to do with the Reddick situation? 

The best Reddick can do is earn his original prorated salary provided he hits certain incentives that he is not guaranteed to achieve. This isn't hard to figure out. 

I was mistaken in my assessment then. Fair enough.

[IndianaJet]

Per Cimini:

 

Reddick will report to the Jets on Monday morning. The two-time Pro Bowler will receive the remainder of his 2024 base salary -- approximately $9 million -- plus new incentives that will allow him to recoup the $12 million he lost in fines. By rule, a team can't waive offseason fines.

 

It will be interesting to see what these incentives are and how easy they will be to meet them.

 

[DJF71]

Jets are always going to Jet. 

[Fantasy Island]

1 minute ago, bicketybam said:

@Fantasy Island What did I write here that is incorrect? 

Reddick getting paid same amount for 9 games as 17.  Reddick won

[bicketybam]

21 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

Per Cimini:

 

Reddick will report to the Jets on Monday morning. The two-time Pro Bowler will receive the remainder of his 2024 base salary -- approximately $9 million -- plus new incentives that will allow him to recoup the $12 million he lost in fines. By rule, a team can't waive offseason fines.

 

It will be interesting to see what these incentives are and how easy they will be to meet them.

 

So the most money he can net this season is what he was originally set to make on a pro-rated basis and that's assuming he meets a bunch of new incentives. Huge victory for Reddick 😏

[Green Ghost]

Who else thinks a Reddick 3/$65 mil extension is being worked on between Drew and Woody right now?

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

Reddick getting paid same amount for 9 games as 17.  Reddick won

No he's not. First, the money is incentive based and 2nd, due to his own actions, he owes 12 mil in fines. So the best he can do, assuming he hits all the incentives, is make what he was originally set to make for playing the remainder of the season. Only fool would say he won.

[Jetpain]

With all the money the Jets save from Reddick's holdout, they can go buy another trainers table for the  trainers room as that's where Hassaan will be spending most of his time.   Maybe Sarge can start a survey for everyone on what Riddick will injure first ?   Hammy, ankle, groin, ? 

[bicketybam]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

Who else thinks a Reddick 3/$70 mil extension isn’t being worked on between Drew and Woody right now?

[jgb]

11 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

Find me one person that can name a game we lost but would have won with Reddick. Come on, Chief. 

I just did express that opinion. You should've asked for 2 people. 

[bicketybam]

Just now, jgb said:

I just did express that opinion. You should've asked for 2 people. 

Ok cool. You had this Reddick situation nailed from the get go 👍

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 hours ago, docdhc said:

Douglas will get hired by an owner that knows how to run a business and doesn’t impulsively meddle in football decisions. We’ll be back to the Idzics and Maccagnans of the football world. 

The worst move we could do is lose JD.

That would be the worst 

[jgb]

Just now, bicketybam said:

Ok cool. You had this Reddick situation nailed from the get go 👍

I did think JD failed to adequately protect the interests of his employer by not making a signed extension a condition of the trade, yes.

[Obrien2Toon]

8 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

Per Cimini:

 

Reddick will report to the Jets on Monday morning. The two-time Pro Bowler will receive the remainder of his 2024 base salary -- approximately $9 million -- plus new incentives that will allow him to recoup the $12 million he lost in fines. By rule, a team can't waive offseason fines.

 

It will be interesting to see what these incentives are and how easy they will be to meet them.

 

I’m assuming they are going to be easy to reach, and he’ll end up making 21 million  for 10 games

 

[Dcat]

3 hours ago, Larz said:

Almost sold my tickets to the Halloween game Monday lol 

if the gods are willing I’ll see

Rodgers

Adams

G5

Hall

Sauce

Reddick

Mcdonald

Quinnen

Quincy

in person. 

Buy you a beer?  We'll be there.

[Barry McCockinner]

6 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

Reddick getting paid same amount for 9 games as 17.  Reddick won

That was never his goal. He wanted a long term deal. I think everyone lost.

[bicketybam]

Just now, jgb said:

I did think JD failed to adequately protect the interests of his employer by not making a signed extension a condition of the trade, yes.

That's one thing you said. We'll skip the rest 👍

[jgb]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

That was never his goal. He wanted a long term deal. I think everyone lost.

Jets also didn't get his services for the first 7 weeks of the season. 

[jgb]

Just now, bicketybam said:

That's one thing you said. We'll skip the rest 👍

I would also skip points that devastate your position.

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, jgb said:

Jets also didn't get his services for the first 7 weeks of the season. 

That's why I said everyone lost.

[jgb]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

That's why I said everyone lost.

Clearly. Those celebrating this as some "win" for the Jets are arguing a paradox -- that we wrestled a good player to heel with tough financial negotiating tactics but that having him the first 7 weeks carried no value.

Both sides lost.

[De-Jet-Erate/Duane]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

No way. His teams were consistently not ready to play, sloppy, committed more penalties than the opponents and got blown out with extra rest 

100% spot on evaiuation of his teams. Very undisciplined and unprepared.

[bicketybam]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

That was never his goal. He wanted a long term deal. I think everyone lost.

Reddick wanted more money in his bank account for 2024 and he desperately wanted a long term deal. 

Jets wanted him to play football on his original deal.

The Jets reportedly had offered him more money for 2024 and he turned it down because he wanted more years.

The biggest loser is Reddick and it isn't even close.

[jgb]

Just now, bicketybam said:

Reddick wanted more money in his bank account for 2024 and he desperately wanted a long term deal. 

Jets wanted him to play football on his original deal.

The Jets reportedly had offered him more money for 2024 and he turned it down because he wanted more years.

The biggest loser is Reddick and it isn't even close.

I'm sure that will be a bullet point on JD's CV next year if Jets miss the playoffs.

[bicketybam]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

I would also skip points that devastate your position.

I don't feel like going back and pulling up everything you were wrong about. Take the L, Chief. You had to know it was coming.

[Rhg1084]

22 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

Find me anyone that thinks the Jets have four losses because the didn't have Haason Reddick on the field. I'll be here waiting.

I mean Clemons is pretty terrible he didn’t secure the edge cost us the win last week against Allen. Reddick is a big upgrade 

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Looks like woody stepped in and told JD enough is enough. 
 

 

So Woody got him to come in without changing the contract beyond "waiving" the fines?  Not sure why you don't understand that this is a complete cave-in by Reddick, and not at all by JD.    All the kudos for getting him here go to Rosenhaus, who had to alter Reddick's bizarre expectations and help him see the light.   

[bicketybam]

Just now, jgb said:

I'm sure that will be a bullet point on JD's CV next year if Jets miss the playoffs.

[jgb]

Just now, bicketybam said:

I don't feel like going back and pulling up everything you were wrong about. Take the L, Chief. You had to know it was coming.

Could you at least summarize what you think I was wrong about with Reddick?