faba Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Moss could grow on Pats -- Gabriel backs deal for former Raider teammate By John Tomase Boston Herald Sports Writer Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - Updated: 06:52 AM EST FOXBORO - One impact NFL player desperately wants to be traded before today’s 4 p.m. deadline. A Sports Illustrated report over the weekend said the Patriots could be interested. That player is Randy Moss. And the man who knows him better than anyone in the Patriots locker room says he’d make a seamless transition here. “He’d be a perfect fit in this offense,” said former Raiders teammate Doug Gabriel. “He loves to work. If Randy were here, every other receiver would want to pick up their games 110 percent. It wouldn’t just be a small push. It would be a big push.” httpMoss wants out of Oakland, where the winless Raiders are the laughingstocks of the NFL. He has requested a trade and by all accounts would be open to playing in New England, where he could satisfy his desire to win a championship. Whether the Patriots and Raiders could even agree on an asking price is the great unknown, but the Patriots own two first-round picks in next year’s draft. Speaking of the trade deadline in general, Patriots coach Bill Belichick wouldn’t rule out anything yesterday. “I wouldn’t say we’re actively trying to do anything, but if the opportunity was there, we would definitely look into it,” Belichick said. “Every day, all 365 of them, if we have an opportunity to improve this team, we’ll take it.” Though the odds of Moss being moved are remote, they’re not nonexistent, even in a league in which blockbuster in-season deals rarely occur. Because of a change in the collective bargaining agreement noted by SI over the weekend, the Raiders are in a much better position to handle the cap hit if they trade Moss, who has $4.85 million remaining on this season’s contract and $21 million over the next two years. Instead of absorbing Moss’ prorated yearly cap numbers at once, the Raiders could push them off to next season, making a trade more palatable. The 29-year-old Moss already has topped 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns since being selected in the first round of the 1998 draft by the Vikings. The Patriots passed on him that year in favor of Robert Edwards after owner Robert Kraft and player personnel man Bobby Grier deemed his character issues too troubling. Moss has been accused of quitting on the Raiders this season. “I don’t know him, but if he came here and was a good citizen, worked hard and played the way he has in the past, he’d be a good fit,” said Patriots safety Rodney Harrison. “But if he came in here and was a distraction and a disruption, he wouldn’t be a good fit.” Gabriel said the Pats would have nothing to worry about, because he believes Moss is the most misunderstood player in the league. The two talk frequently and spoke Saturday, though they didn’t talk trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I would be shocked that mumbles would want him then again he knows he is no going to dance with this cast of characters... Desperation makes a man do strange things... Just ask Jetfan13!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I hope this doesn't happen. NE isn't exactly horrible right now & Brady-Moss could be a lethal combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 He has requested a trade and by all accounts would be open to playing in New England, where he could satisfy his desire to win a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 What do you want from a Boston Herald writer- homer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Because without him, they stand no chance of winning another Super Bowl Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_andy Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I hope this doesn't happen. NE isn't exactly horrible right now & Brady-Moss could be a lethal combo. Or he could end up being a thorn in the Patriots ass. Moss is still the kind of player that takes plays off, wants the ball 99% of the time; a lighter version of T Owens. Right now, Brady gets the ball to just about every receiver and back in a game. I think if Moss was thrown into the mix, some of the Pats team chemistry would be sacrificed and perhaps other players would begin to show dissent. So, I think it would be a bad idea for the Patriots to go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 ouch...that would suck bigtime......but i cant see Belly dealing with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Moss is the type of player that would be the anti-Belicheck player. He is a "me-first" type. Someone mentioned a T.O. lite - that's a fair description. An excellent skills talent, with a 10 cent brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I don't know. I haven't heard him give a "Just give me the damn ball" type rant for quite a while now. He's had pushovers & imbeciles for his HC his whole career. He's not TO. He's not Marvin Harrison, but he' s not TO. Dillon was once thought to be quite the anti-Bellichick player also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 A great coach should look forward to having a great talent. It's up to the coach to get him on the same page. Moss isn't famous for wanting to block or go over the middle, but he'd be a hell of a weapon and he's not unstable like TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Randy and Brady would be very sick imo,but I hope it doesn't happen for our sake, then the jets would have a real hard time with the pats then .Not that we don't have problems already with those gaytriots!! BB Must Be thinking SB or Bust this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Mangini was asked about players who sometimes change from selfless to selfish over their careers (i.e. but not named, T.O). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Mangini was asked about players who sometimes change from selfless to selfish over their careers (i.e. but not named, T.O). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 just imagine....MOSS-COLES-COTCH....that would be nice... It would be nice. It would also be a waste of cap room and the first-rounder required to get him in the first place. WR is one of the few areas we don't need upgrading at all. I'd rather have a legit 2-gap NT who doesn't get blown off the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 just imagine....MOSS-COLES-COTCH....that would be nice... I ALWAYS wanted Moss and Chad together again-won't ever happen unless the Jets do a little defensive trading-to block what NE wants to do-you know just for spite-I'd love that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 just imagine....MOSS-COLES-COTCH....that would be nice... That sure would be nice. The only missing piece in that combination is a real NFL QB who can deliver them the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 It would be nice. It would also be a waste of cap room and the first-rounder required to get him in the first place. WR is one of the few areas we don't need upgrading at all. I'd rather have a legit 2-gap NT who doesn't get blown off the line. oh i agree 100%...but it still would be nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 come on Tex bring your "A" game--you're mailing them in with this same nonsense day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Moss is the type of player that would be the anti-Belicheck player. He is a "me-first" type. Someone mentioned a T.O. lite - that's a fair description. An excellent skills talent, with a 10 cent brain. They said the same thing about Dillon to. Gabriel was singing the praises of Moss this past week when asked. Said he is the hardest working player he knows. Hard work aside, I think his past taking plays off would be a deal killer. Short of getting a 50 cents on the dollar trade, I doubt this deal is more then the speculation it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 They said the same thing about Dillon to. Gabriel was singing the praises of Moss this past week when asked. Said he is the hardest working player he knows. Hard work aside, I think his past taking plays off would be a deal killer. Short of getting a 50 cents on the dollar trade, I doubt this deal is more then the speculation it is. Wishful thinking. I just can't see it happening. I would suspect the Raiders would want a first and NO WAY the Pats deal one of their firsts for Moss. However, I would do it! Moss - he of checkered past - is no T.O. - the Grand Puke of the Gridiron. I'd give it a shot. Dillon worked out prettty well! Good thing I don't run the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_andy Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 That sure would be nice. The only missing piece in that combination is a real NFL QB who can deliver them the football. Holy sh!t You gotta be kidding me!? What is wrong with you? Is there any point of your daily life that you are not thinking about Chad Pennington? or a conversational topic that you can't somehow squeeze his name in? TX you are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 less than 5 hours to the trade deadline i guess we will find out one way or the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Holy sh!t You gotta be kidding me!? What is wrong with you? Is there any point of your daily life that you are not thinking about Chad Pennington? or a conversational topic that you can't somehow squeeze his name in? TX you are pathetic. Exactly where did I mention PennyBoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_andy Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Exactly where did I mention PennyBoy? Someone posted that they thought it would be awesome to have Moss/Coles/Cotchery. Your reply: Quote: Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post That sure would be nice. The only missing piece in that combination is a real NFL QB who can deliver them the football. Now, what the F is that supposed to mean, are you not implying that the Jets don't have a real NFL QB? Who is the Jets QB? You're such a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 That sure would be nice. The only missing piece in that combination is a real NFL QB who can deliver them the football. You mean the QB who set NCAA records with Moss at Marshall isn't a real QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 You mean the QB who set NCAA records with Moss at Marshall isn't a real QB? Stuff like that means nothing. There's a receiver at the University of New Hampshire who just broke Jerry Rice's 1-AA NCAA record. I'll bet my entire savings that this guy will never come close to Jerry Rice's professional career - let alone actually make an NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 That sure would be nice. The only missing piece in that combination is a real NFL QB who can deliver them the football. Moss is probably the only player in the league that actually would benefit from penny's floaters. If Moss can make Culpepper look good, then Pennington definitely would like like a Pro-Bowl QB too. Penny's weakness is that he can't carry a team against top defenses, but with Moss there, he doesn't have to. If the Jets insist on keeping Chad, they need to grab a pro-bowl caliber true go-to WR. Coles and Cotchery are not it. Moss is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 why lose a 1st rounder when its obvious miami stinks and a playoff spot is guaranteed for Pats,, take a shot in playoffs with typical Belly ball and keep your 1st rounder or get Moss for less when season ends and price isnt as high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Stuff like that means nothing. There's a receiver at the University of New Hampshire who just broke Jerry Rice's 1-AA NCAA record. I'll bet my entire savings that this guy will never come close to Jerry Rice's professional career - let alone actually make an NFL roster. That would be how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 That would be how much? 12 Cabbage Patch dolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 12 Cabbage Patch dolls........and a bag of Chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinsuck Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 It would be nice. It would also be a waste of cap room and the first-rounder required to get him in the first place. WR is one of the few areas we don't need upgrading at all. I'd rather have a legit 2-gap NT who doesn't get blown off the line. I agree. NT has to be one of our priorities in the off-season. However, the Jets could make far worse moves than getting an all-pro wr for Pennington to throw to. Imagine a reunited Chad Pennington and Randy Moss? The thought puts butterflies in my stomach. As for Moss in NE I could see it happening. Corey Dillon wasn't supposed to be a Belichek-type player but he's fit in well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I agree. NT has to be one of our priorities in the off-season. However, the Jets could make far worse moves than getting an all-pro wr for Pennington to throw to. Imagine a reunited Chad Pennington and Randy Moss? The thought puts butterflies in my stomach. As for Moss in NE I could see it happening. Corey Dillon wasn't supposed to be a Belichek-type player but he's fit in well there. It has to be THE priority in the offseason. Even more than a pass-rushing OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 what the F would Moss want to come to Jets for to catch a 3 yd swing pass and get crushed by LB's??? Moss with Clemmons different scenerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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