Kentucky Jet Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 January 09, 2008 Kellen Clemens Ahead of Chad Pennington Seems Like a No-Brainer for the New York Jets by Daniel Latzman (Contributor) 4 comments Filed Under: NFL, AFC East, New York Jets, Kellen Clemens, Chad Pennington As the NY Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 When has Chad ever faced the Ravens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 When has Chad ever faced the Ravens? LOL!!! I just looked it up myself. Chad has never faced the Ravens in his entire career, except from the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Maybe that's why it's an "interesting read"...it's a fictional classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 His first task was overpowering the forceful defense of the Baltimore Ravens, a team Jets fans have witnessed Chad struggle against repeatedly over the past few years. Worst. Article. Ever!!! Seriously, did Barton write this or something?? It's as biased a thing you could ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 LOL!!! I just looked it up myself. Chad has never faced the Ravens in his entire career, except from the sideline. Maybe the guy writing the article forgot how many games the chadster really missed in this career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 LOL!!! I just looked it up myself. Chad has never faced the Ravens in his entire career, except from the sideline. I think he has only played against them in the preseason....Briefly of course, but I guess that counts for the author's purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseyjet Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 The Article lost me with the stong "ACCURATE THROWS" statement ...what was it again 4 td`s to 10 int`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 LOL!!! I just looked it up myself. Chad has never faced the Ravens in his entire career, except from the sideline. Perhaps the author meant Chad struggled to wave the towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I love the way he doesn't mention any of the bad games at all, like they never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjetsjetsjets Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's an opinion article, what do you people expect? Regardless, I thought Clemens played pretty well, the opposite i thought of chad this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's an opinion article, what do you people expect? Regardless, I thought Clemens played pretty well, the opposite i thought of chad this season. It's not his opinion that's in question, it's some of the false facts he wrote...and Clemens played well? When? If he had played well, there wouldn't be any QB competition heading into next season. Mangini would have announced that Clemens was the starter just like he did with Pennington before last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's an opinion article, what do you people expect? Regardless, I thought Clemens played pretty well, the opposite i thought of chad this season. Kellen played well in very small stretches and was putrid the remainder of the time but still deserves 2008 if our FO and others thought so much of him in the draft. 7 or so games behind a bad line is not enough of a sample to make a decision on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Give the KID a chance and an O-line and he will suprise you all, This KID will be good and he is light years ahead of chad in all phases of the game imo,except for game management of course ,Chad is the ultimate game manager ,but thats all I will give him.Besides that Chad Blows and I'm glad we have the KID at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Give the KID a chance and an O-line and he will suprise you all, This KID will be good and he is light years ahead of chad in all phases of the game imo,except for game management of course ,Chad is the ultimate game manager ,but thats all I will give him.Besides that Chad Blows and I'm glad we have the KID at the helm. Mike, do you remember a few years back when posters balked about building a team around Chad? Now, we want to build a team around Clemens...they both blow...mark it down...you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Mike, do you remember a few years back when posters balked about building a team around Chad? Now, we want to build a team around Clemens...they both blow...mark it down...you'll see. I think that's the problem. Don't build a team around either of them. Just build a ****ing team. If either of them are any good when we have one fine, if not, go get one. Sign some putz like Garcia, and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Give the KID a chance and an O-line and he will suprise you all, This KID will be good and he is light years ahead of chad in all phases of the game imo,except for game management of course ,Chad is the ultimate game manager ,but thats all I will give him.Besides that Chad Blows and I'm glad we have the KID at the helm. Why give him a chance? I demand instant gratification. I expect a passer rating of 100+ from a first year starting QB. I don't care how bad the o-line was or how many drops the receivers had. Why, if I was running the Cowboys during Tony Romo's first three years when he didn't show enough to even get any playing time, I would have cut him. Move on. Draft a big time college clown QB in the first round, give him a big contract, ignore other needs, and then we at least have a one in three chance he will eventually succeed in the NFL. Yes siree, that's how you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Why give him a chance? I demand instant gratification. I expect a passer rating of 100+ from a first year starting QB. I don't care how bad the o-line was or how many drops the receivers had. Why, if I was running the Cowboys during Tony Romo's first three years when he didn't show enough to even get any playing time, I would have cut him. Move on. Draft a big time college clown QB in the first round, give him a big contract, ignore other needs, and then we at least have a one in three chance he will eventually succeed in the NFL. Yes siree, that's how you do it. You're taking it to the extremes...since you brought up his passer rating, it's barely on the charts. Sometimes you just have a feeling about a player and for me personally, I never had a feel for Chad or Kellen...maybe I'm wrong...we'll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 You're taking it to the extremes...since you brought up his passer rating, it's barely on the charts. Sometimes you just have a feeling about a player and for me personally, I never had a feel for Chad or Kellen...maybe I'm wrong...we'll see soon enough. My scarcasm knows no boundaries. Yes, we shall see. You are on the fortunate side of this issue. If you are wrong, we have a genuine QB. If I am wrong, we don't have a QB and I was wrong. Double jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Why give him a chance? I demand instant gratification. I expect a passer rating of 100+ from a first year starting QB. I don't care how bad the o-line was or how many drops the receivers had. Why, if I was running the Cowboys during Tony Romo's first three years when he didn't show enough to even get any playing time, I would have cut him. Move on. Draft a big time college clown QB in the first round, give him a big contract, ignore other needs, and then we at least have a one in three chance he will eventually succeed in the NFL. Yes siree, that's how you do it. LOL Good one DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Sure I believe Clemens should be given a chance. However, he also has shown me absolutely nothing thus far to be confident that he is the guy. This is exactly why people clung so stubbornly to Chad, and I could understand where they were coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 He certainly deserves another shot. He also certainly stunk this season. If Pennington beats him out..........So be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjetsjetsjets Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Kellen played well in very small stretches and was putrid the remainder of the time but still deserves 2008 if our FO and others thought so much of him in the draft. 7 or so games behind a bad line is not enough of a sample to make a decision on him. I thought he played pretty well the whole time. He had a couple rough spots, but considering the dropped passes and horrid oline, he played well in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjetsjetsjets Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's not his opinion that's in question, it's some of the false facts he wrote...and Clemens played well? When? If he had played well, there wouldn't be any QB competition heading into next season. Mangini would have announced that Clemens was the starter just like he did with Pennington before last season. I disagree with all of that. It was an opinion article and i don't think the facts were that messed up. I thought he did play well for the most part and as of right now chad is on the team, and if i were a coach i would always say there is competition at every position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Not that I come close to a NFL caliber QB or even a major D1 prospect, but I played the posistion in college and got my shot due to injury and then was awarded the job the next season before I myself went down to injury. Getting snaps in practice and even running through offense with the first team does not nearly prepare you for game speed and blitzes. I mechanics were always good in practice, but I made silly mistakes like throwing off my back foot and holding onto the ball to long because things were happening so fast. Kellen wasnt awful this year at all, but neither stood out as our #1 for 2008. I think he is worthy enough for be our #1 in 2008, but it looks like he will have to beat out Chad to have that opportunity. I still believe Kellen will eventually be out starting qb for the future, but it may take more time then expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Not that I come close to a NFL caliber QB or even a major D1 prospect, but I played the posistion in college and got my shot due to injury and then was awarded the job the next season before I myself went down to injury. Getting snaps in practice and even running through offense with the first team does not nearly prepare you for game speed and blitzes. I mechanics were always good in practice, but I made silly mistakes like throwing off my back foot and holding onto the ball to long because things were happening so fast. Kellen wasnt awful this year at all, but neither stood out as our #1 for 2008. I think he is worthy enough for be our #1 in 2008, but it looks like he will have to beat out Chad to have that opportunity. I still believe Kellen will eventually be out starting qb for the future, but it may take more time then expected. Well said, and that is all most of us Clemens non-bashers are saying. I am not guaranteeing that Clemens is the answer. Only that everything considered, the Jets should stick with him for at least one more year before investing in someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisYearsModel Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 No one could be expected to succeed behind a line that can neither pass block or run block. We also found out that Thomas Jones is incapable of blocking for himself while running for positive yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 No one could be expected to succeed behind a line that can neither pass block or run block. We also found out that Thomas Jones is incapable of blocking for himself while running for positive yardage. Another about Jones. I wonder if he really likes lining up 15 yards behind the LOS when they are in the I formation. What is Shotty thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Jones is another one who doesnt deserve the scrutiny hes getting. He had over 1000 yards with a garbage offensive line. He is our #1 and will be fine if we address the offensive line. Jones is not nearly a problem. Imagine this team without Jones this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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