jgb Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 thank god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Please resign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwnf95DHiRQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 That's a lot. Yes it is. Love having Holmes back, but I'm hoping they have some marijuana insurance in that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 TheJetsStream Manish Mehta How badly does @Santonio10 Holmes want to win another SB? Well, he turned down more $$ from another team to sign w/ #Jets, per source. #nyj Whats Fatcesa gonna say about them apples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I assumed he must have. We didn't hear any reports about other teams talking to Santonio. The talk of Washington all took place before things got started. I have to say, I'm impressed. He wanted to be a Jet and got something done quickly. Surprised and impressed. With that contract, I'm not sure how much more he could have gotten. I hope this works out. I can see a SOJ situation with Edwards going to the Pats or Colts and putting up 16TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstilldeath77 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 We should have given him 20 mil a year, Holmes is a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 All the deals signed so far are ridiculous - this is a lot of money, but it is what it is. Look how much Quentin Mikell just got paid. Or that OT in Dallas Free. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Old CBA, new CBA, doesn't make a difference--top UFA all get overpaid. No different with Santonio. Better to overpay to keep him than be frugal and let him walk and we'll all be complaining he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 On the Sanchez restructure deal-Someone help edify me. I realize all they are doing is moving monies, not changing the structure of the deal. I assume that some of the money is being deferred to later in the contract. Does anyone know if they incentivize that movement of money at all by giving a percentage of interest added on o the deferred money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 All the deals signed so far are ridiculous - this is a lot of money, but it is what it is. Look how much Quentin Mikell just got paid. Or that OT in Dallas Free. Yikes. The bottom feeders of the league who have not been paying are going to drive up total new salaries, so they reach the floor. This should catch up in the future if they accurately project revenue, and the cap will take some big jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Wow...thats some serious cash. And whats "thought to be" mean? Marshall's contract is 5/50/24 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Its great to see JETS sign up Holmes but the numbers are astounding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Old CBA, new CBA, doesn't make a difference--top UFA all get overpaid. No different with Santonio. Better to overpay to keep him than be frugal and let him walk and we'll all be complaining he's gone. I agree. At this point, you have to pay for a top WR - developing them takes too long, and this team is a win now team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Awesome stuff. Best WR on the team. word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 But doesn't this deal pretty much ensure Braylon will be wearing another jersey next season. Do we have enough room to get Braylon and Aso, both ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Holmes probably carries an $8-$9 mil cap hit this year, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Holmes probably carries an $8-$9 mil cap hit this year, right? All depends what the base is for 2011. If the bonus is 25 mill across a 5 year contract, at minimum, the hit is 5m to this years cap. You can be sure the base salaries are back-ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Vernon Gholston. "The Jets are not a better team without Kerry Rhodes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Lets hope Braylon Edwards is soon signed we need him. He creates opportunities and is a big tall WR target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 All depends what the base is for 2011. If the bonus is 25 mill across a 5 year contract, at minimum, the hit is 5m to this years cap. You can be sure the base salaries are back-ended. I doubt the bonus is 25M. It was 24M in guarantees - that usually means SB + guaranteed salary in future years. I would not be surprised to see a 15M signing bonus and 9M in salary guarantees through year 2, with the remaining 26M spread across the last 3 years of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I doubt the bonus is 25M. It was 24M in guarantees - that usually means SB + guaranteed salary in future years. I would not be surprised to see a 15M signing bonus and 9M in salary guarantees through year 2, with the remaining 26M spread across the last 3 years of the deal. Good points. BUT, Mike T and the Jets, historically, don't give up high SBs. None of last year's re-signees got significant SBs. So Holmes could be looking at high guarantees this year and next, but not from a SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisYearsModel Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Good points. BUT, Mike T and the Jets, historically, don't give up high SBs. None of last year's re-signees got significant SBs. So Holmes could be looking at high guarantees this year and next, but not from a SB. Are the Jets providing a complementary supply of wizzonator? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Say it with me folks BOOOO!! BOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This is great news. MAN it feels good to see good players wanting to be/stay "JETS"! Even if we dont get Nnamdi, just to be a legit contender for this type ot talent in free agency and it no longer be the f'ing patriots every year is a beautiful thing. I f'ing love Rex, Tanny and Woody. These guys have really turned this franchise into something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Interesting that Braylon knew before anyone else. Maybe he got the old "Braylon, we've decided to go in a different direction" call? My guess is it was more of an update thing. Something like we signed Holmes and are in negotiations with Aso. Let us know how court goes and well see if we can stillw ork something out if you are still available in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'm happy we signed Holmes but I have to call BS on him leaving money on the table. He got a ridiculous contract, how much more could he have possible earned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Marshall's contract is 5/50/24 also. Since when? Its a 5/47.5/13, with the possibility of unlocking future guarantees to hit 24 million or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Since when? Its a 5/47.5/13, with the possibility of unlocking future guarantees to hit 24 million or so. Right, so the use of 'thought to be' would seem to be a comment on the likelihood of that happening, no? Do you have another explanation for why Holmes's guarantee would be referred to as possibly but not definitely the highest ever given to a receiver, or was this just a lame gotcha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Lets hope Braylon Edwards is soon signed we need him. He creates opportunities and is a big tall WR target. I agree. They need to forget Asa and sign Edwards and Cromartie. It will be much more worth the money. We don't need an elite #1 CB covering number 2 guys. It's not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Wow...thats some serious cash. And whats "thought to be" mean? Im guessing to mean that he doesnt know or is waiting to hear if its a real guarantee of not. Anyway I dont think its the highest guarantee. Fitzgeralds was over 30 million and Johnsons was close to that. Roy Williams may have also been higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 On the Sanchez restructure deal-Someone help edify me. I realize all they are doing is moving monies, not changing the structure of the deal. I assume that some of the money is being deferred to later in the contract. Does anyone know if they incentivize that movement of money at all by giving a percentage of interest added on o the deferred money? They usually factor in almost no interest at all. They just move the money and guarantee portions of it that were not guaranteed before. Sanchez had super low cash due in 2013 to give a spot to move money to if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sanchez will probably wind up with more money this year, but it will be deferred to future years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Right, so the use of 'thought to be' would seem to be a comment on the likelihood of that happening, no? Do you have another explanation for why Holmes's guarantee would be referred to as possibly but not definitely the highest ever given to a receiver, or was this just a lame gotcha? He is a hyperbole machine so he probably just wanted to say it even though he knew it was not true. If anyone asks for clarification hell eventually say FA wide receiver since the others were extensions/rookie deals. I havent tuned it, but I have to image he will be next be talking about how "if Holmes makes this...Jackson will want 30+ million" and then close it with a "things are getting very interesting in the newly CBAed NFL with spending. This is shaping up to be the craziest offseason in the history of the National Football League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Just a reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZpJ5Tuo_A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I agree. They need to forget Asa and sign Edwards and Cromartie. It will be much more worth the money. We don't need an elite #1 CB covering number 2 guys. It's not necessary. If they are as elite as they say, don't think of it as a CB covering a WR, think of it as a CB handling a side of the field. Deion Sanders was the best CB I ever saw play because he took an entire side of the field away, didn't matter who you threw it to, if it was on HIS side of the field, he'd probably pick you off. Hence why QBs wouldn't even test his SIDE. If Revis and Asmomugha both think they're near that level, they both take away a side. Neither guy cares who you move around on offense, at least, that's what it should be. I do not think either is even 75% of Sanders though. We will see, I hope I'm wrong, we get both, and the average gameplan against us is to dink and dunk in the middle of the field or on checkdowns all game long. We will win most of our games if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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