F.Chowds Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Way back in February, during the 2011 NFL Combine, Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix was asked point-blank by assembled media whether or not the team was ready to give up on 2009 first-round pick Aaron Maybin, who'd done little in his first two NFL seasons. Nix gave a very to-the-point, one-word answer: "No." That stance appears to have changed months later, however, as NFL.com's Michael Lombardi is reporting that he's heard that the Bills are shopping Maybin - to no avail, of course - on the trade market, and that they're hopeful that another team will take the former No. 11 overall pick off of their hands. In two years at the professional level, Maybin has played two different positions for two coaching staffs in two different defensive schemes. He hasn't had it easy, but he also has had no impact, accumulating just 24 tackles in that time frame. Bills head coach Chan Gailey has been repeatedly openly critical of Maybin, all the while going out of his way to praise some of the other young pass-rushing talent the team employs. As I said yesterday regarding the Lee Evans trade speculation: don't hold your breath waiting for something to get done on this front. Rex reclamation project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Way back in February, during the 2011 NFL Combine, Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix was asked point-blank by assembled media whether or not the team was ready to give up on 2009 first-round pick Aaron Maybin, who'd done little in his first two NFL seasons. Nix gave a very to-the-point, one-word answer: "No." That stance appears to have changed months later, however, as NFL.com's Michael Lombardi is reporting that he's heard that the Bills are shopping Maybin - to no avail, of course - on the trade market, and that they're hopeful that another team will take the former No. 11 overall pick off of their hands. In two years at the professional level, Maybin has played two different positions for two coaching staffs in two different defensive schemes. He hasn't had it easy, but he also has had no impact, accumulating just 24 tackles in that time frame. Bills head coach Chan Gailey has been repeatedly openly critical of Maybin, all the while going out of his way to praise some of the other young pass-rushing talent the team employs. As I said yesterday regarding the Lee Evans trade speculation: don't hold your breath waiting for something to get done on this front. Rex reclamation project? This sounds an awful lot like Gholston 2.0. And we just got rid of 1.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Rex reclamation project? Only if we get him after Buffalo dumps him. I hope the Bills GM doesn't really believe he could actually trade Ayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Way back in February, during the 2011 NFL Combine, Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix was asked point-blank by assembled media whether or not the team was ready to give up on 2009 first-round pick Aaron Maybin, who'd done little in his first two NFL seasons. Nix gave a very to-the-point, one-word answer: "No." That stance appears to have changed months later, however, as NFL.com's Michael Lombardi is reporting that he's heard that the Bills are shopping Maybin - to no avail, of course - on the trade market, and that they're hopeful that another team will take the former No. 11 overall pick off of their hands. In two years at the professional level, Maybin has played two different positions for two coaching staffs in two different defensive schemes. He hasn't had it easy, but he also has had no impact, accumulating just 24 tackles in that time frame. Bills head coach Chan Gailey has been repeatedly openly critical of Maybin, all the while going out of his way to praise some of the other young pass-rushing talent the team employs. As I said yesterday regarding the Lee Evans trade speculation: don't hold your breath waiting for something to get done on this front. Rex reclamation project? I see this statement alot. Exactly who has Rex ever turned into a good player from being a bad one? If you have the talent he can motivate and put you in right places to get the most out of it. But he hasn't turned anyone's career's around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I see this statement alot. Exactly who has Rex ever turned into a good player from being a bad one? If you have the talent he can motivate and put you in right places to get the most out of it. But he hasn't turned anyone's career's around. Pouha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Another average college player whose combine numbers propelled him to the first round...Rex likes guys with a work ethic toward football not the weight room...I'd pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 They need an edge rusher for 3rd down, that's it. And you either have that burst or you don't. Maybin obviously doesn't. As far as what else he can do or can't do football wise who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hes another gholston.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Another average college player whose combine numbers propelled him to the first round...Rex likes guys with a work ethic toward football not the weight room...I'd pass. People said this about Gholston and as with Gholston, it's a crock of sh*t. Maybin was a one year wonder at Penn State, but he was a ******* beast. 12 sacks most in the Big10 7th overall. 5th most sacks ever in a season at Penn State. 6th most tackles for a loss in a season in Penn State history. Tackle for a loss in every game. The year before he had only 12 tackles, but 4 of them were sacks. He came out early, with only one season as a starter, but he was not drafted on the combine or weight room. He was drafted as an inexperienced project that was an absolute monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Only if we get him after Buffalo dumps him. I hope the Bills GM doesn't really believe he could actually trade Ayers. that dog is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 that dog is awesome Too bad all my dog does is beg and go through my trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 People said this about Gholston and as with Gholston, it's a crock of sh*t. Maybin was a one year wonder at Penn State, but he was a ******* beast. 12 sacks most in the Big10 7th overall. 5th most sacks ever in a season at Penn State. 6th most tackles for a loss in a season in Penn State history. Tackle for a loss in every game. The year before he had only 12 tackles, but 4 of them were sacks. He came out early, with only one season as a starter, but he was not drafted on the combine or weight room. He was drafted as an inexperienced project that was an absolute monster. Really? Maybe the fallacy of small numbers applies...only went back to one evaluator on his pre-draft commentary... http://thehuddlereport.com/Free/archive/2009DRAFT/PlayerProfiles/Aaron.Maybin.htm Maybe you can find some others who have a different opinion...only thing is you may want to compare his scouting report to his actual body of work in the NFL and see which evaluator had it right. FTR...looks like this evaluator had him pegged...weak work ethic plus athletic ability plus a desire to hit jackpot in the draft...gets him drafted early...eventually the real grind of the NFL takes its toll and the guy is on the fringe or out of the league by the end of his first contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Really? Maybe the fallacy of small numbers applies...only went back to one evaluator on his pre-draft commentary... http://thehuddlereport.com/Free/archive/2009DRAFT/PlayerProfiles/Aaron.Maybin.htm Maybe you can find some others who have a different opinion...only thing is you may want to compare his scouting report to his actual body of work in the NFL and see which evaluator had it right. FTR...looks like this evaluator had him pegged...weak work ethic plus athletic ability plus a desire to hit jackpot in the draft...gets him drafted early...eventually the real grind of the NFL takes its toll and the guy is on the fringe or out of the league by the end of his first contract. I'm not going to argue that he was a good pick, but he produced in college. Small sample size to be sure. No mention of sacks in that report? If he had some explanation of that I might find the report making a little more sense. "He tackled guys that were already tackled"? WTF does that even mean? I read the exact same things about Pierre-Paul. He got most of his numbers in one year, his workouts moved him up the board and on top of that, worse conference and Selvie was getting a ton of attention allowing Pierre-Paul to run free. Pierre-Paul seems like he was a pretty good pick so far. The fact is, these are boom or bust guys. It's not surprising that a higher number of them bust. Inexperienced guys switching positions and coming out early will often bust. Funny thing is that I don't remember Gholston or Maybin having such crazy combines. They did well, but everybody KNEW they would. They were physical beasts, if the did poorly at the combine it would have been a surprise. Maybin knew he was going high, that's why he came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm not going to argue that he was a good pick, but he produced in college. Small sample size to be sure. No mention of sacks in that report? If he had some explanation of that I might find the report making a little more sense. "He tackled guys that were already tackled"? WTF does that even mean? I read the exact same things about Pierre-Paul. He got most of his numbers in one year, his workouts moved him up the board and on top of that, worse conference and Selvie was getting a ton of attention allowing Pierre-Paul to run free. Pierre-Paul seems like he was a pretty good pick so far. The fact is, these are boom or bust guys. It's not surprising that a higher number of them bust. Inexperienced guys switching positions and coming out early will often bust. Funny thing is that I don't remember Gholston or Maybin having such crazy combines. They did well, but everybody KNEW they would. They were physical beasts, if the did poorly at the combine it would have been a surprise. Maybin knew he was going high, that's why he came out. He produced in college because he was athletically superior to the competition...don't know why the evaluator didn't speak to the sack numbers...sounded like he didn't like the guy...the quote..."This year, Aaron did an excellent job making tackles after someone else made the tackle first"...echoes the idea that the evaluator didn't like the guy and felt Maybin just piled on after initial contact or made the tackle when the ball carrier was in trouble...who knows?...the point I tried to make earlier was that Maybin produced in college...so what? The stats do not necessarily correlate to a successful NFL career...Danny Wuerffel had great stats in college...and he did diddly in the NFL...The combine wasn't the only factor that led to Maybion's early selection but it definitely did justify his high selection....the evaluator who hammered him keyed in on the fact that Maybin lacked a work ethic and in my line of work and what I've seen as a fan of the NFL...guys without a work ethic are not succesful...maybe Rex and the Jets take a flyer out on Maybin similar to how they are trying to get Jarron Gilbert to contribute...but I'd prefer we focus more on the guys who like to play football versus the guy who look the part or produced a little more in college. Again...just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'd sign anyone with pass rush potential for the league min. If/when they cut him I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 He produced in college because he was athletically superior to the competition...don't know why the evaluator didn't speak to the sack numbers...sounded like he didn't like the guy...the quote..."This year, Aaron did an excellent job making tackles after someone else made the tackle first"...echoes the idea that the evaluator didn't like the guy and felt Maybin just piled on after initial contact or made the tackle when the ball carrier was in trouble...who knows?...the point I tried to make earlier was that Maybin produced in college...so what? The stats do not necessarily correlate to a successful NFL career...Danny Wuerffel had great stats in college...and he did diddly in the NFL...The combine wasn't the only factor that led to Maybion's early selection but it definitely did justify his high selection....the evaluator who hammered him keyed in on the fact that Maybin lacked a work ethic and in my line of work and what I've seen as a fan of the NFL...guys without a work ethic are not succesful...maybe Rex and the Jets take a flyer out on Maybin similar to how they are trying to get Jarron Gilbert to contribute...but I'd prefer we focus more on the guys who like to play football versus the guy who look the part or produced a little more in college. Again...just my opinion. I wasn't disputing your opinion. I just get a little pissy when I hear "workout warrior" about these guys. Gholston has a good work ethic by all accounts and he still sucks. In all honesty, the thing that jumped out at me from that report was that he has poor instincts and problems changing direction. Guys with this kind of rap coming out often suck, but they keep getting drafted because of the huge premium on pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Chowds Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 TheJetsStream Manish Mehta Source confirms that the #Jets have expressed interest in free agent Aaron Maybin. #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 wtf are WE gonna do with some wishy washy 228 lb OLB? Our Running backs are bigger than that bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In what way would he fit this scheme? He is an outside linebacker that is built like wide receiver. Im sure he benched alot when he came out in the draft, but his body type is closer to that of jakked up wide receiver than a front 7 player in a 34 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 anyone see merriman play ? sh*t, he looked like it was 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Jets express interest in free-agent pass rusher Aaron Maybin Published: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 8:20 PM Updated: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 8:30 PM By Jenny Vrentas/The Star-Ledger The Star-Ledger Follow 0 Share close Google Buzz Digg Stumble Upon Fark Reddit Share Email Print John Munson/The Star-LedgerCould Aaron Maybin's career revive in Rex Ryan's defensive system? The Jets are one of the teams that have expressed interest in free agent DE/OLB Aaron Maybin, a person with knowledge of the communication between the sides confirmed. That person requested anonymity because the team has not commented on its interest level. Maybin, the No. 11 overall pick by the Bills in 2009, was waived by the team Monday. Yahoo! Sports first reported Chicago, San Francisco, Denver, Indianapolis and the Jets have expressed interest. Maybin is expected to make a decision within 24 hours, the person said. Maybin was drafted out of Penn State as a pass-rush specialist, but he has not yet recorded a sack in his professional career. At the time the team let him go, Buffalo GM Buddy Nix said his lack of size and strength did not fit in the team's defensive system. “I don’t know what scheme he fits at that size, unless you’re a strong safety or something," Nix said, per the team's official web site. "He says it’s his metabolism and maybe that’s what it is, but he couldn’t hold weight. He was 250 when we saw him at the combine and he was 228 this fall. Now he goes up and down some, but not very high.” Maybin cleared waivers today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 a skinnier Gholston who was a healthy scratch 5 times last year on the freakin bills... sign this beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 If he's a cheap signing I have no problem making this guy training camp fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Its worth the gamble. Its not like we have any youth at OLB, and its very possible Rex could get him going better than the bad coaches at Buffalo. Unlike Gholston, Maybin appears to have some speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 If he weighs 228 it's going to be some time before he can contribute. Something is up. He should be able to hold weight. The guy was a physical beast, but size speed numbers don't mean much if you have no size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 If he weighs 228 it's going to be some time before he can contribute. Something is up. He should be able to hold weight. The guy was a physical beast, but size speed numbers don't mean much if you have no size. Roids he's afraid to use in the NFL? Just a guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Jets offer one-year deal to Aaron Maybin Posted by Mike Florio on August 16, 2011, 10:31 PM EDT Getty Images In 2008, the Jets used a first-round pick on linebacker Vernon Gholston, who became a colossal bust. He’s now a member of the Bears. The following year, the Bills used a first-round pick on linebacker Aaron Maybin. They cut the cord after only two seasons. Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports that the Jets have offered Maybin, who cleared waivers earlier today, a one-year deal. Per Mehta, five or six other teams have made a similar offer. Maybin, like Gholston, has no career sacks. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/16/jets-offer-one-year-deal-to-aaron-maybin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 To play what? Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Buffalo cuts ties with many good players, doesnt mean he cant play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 He was a beast at Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 My fellow Jet droogies, speed kills, just watch his penn state footage he is very fast around the edge and thats something Ghost never was. Rex could find a way to get him to the qb he's a mastermind. Even if Maybin is a beefed up backup safety blitzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Dude is 228 lbs and has issues keeping weight on LOL...Lets hope Sexy Rexy can light a fuego under him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Dude is 228 lbs and has issues keeping weight on LOL...Lets hope Sexy Rexy can light a fuego under him! 2 weeks dining with Rex during training camp and he will be 250-260 no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 He's not the player he was at Penn State. I live in Rochester which is Bills territory. For 2 years all I've heard is what a monumental bust he is. It's Gholston 2.0. This notion that Rex can turn busts into players is cute but not based in reality. What bust has he turned around? Carrie, Vernon, Vlad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Dude is 228 lbs and has issues keeping weight on LOL...Lets hope Sexy Rexy can light a fuego under him! Hahaha If anyone canteach Maybin how to gain weight its Rex. He will teach him the best shakes to go with his triple cheese burgers daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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