flgreen Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Peyton’s remarkable run with Colts appears over Jets Blog By BART HUBBUCH Last Updated: 10:00 AM, February 9, 2012 Posted: 2:00 AM, February 9, 2012 More Print It’s already the NFL’s most intriguing soap opera, even though there are still plenty of cliffhangers to come. Just call it “Peyton’s (Next) Place.” The Giants’ magical Super Bowl run might be history, but all eyes in the sport will remain firmly fixed on Indianapolis to see what the Colts do with Peyton Manning and what the four-time NFL MVP does after that decision comes down. It appears all but certain Indianapolis owner Jim Irsay, coming off a 2-14 season with Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck waiting in the draft and a new coach (Chuck Pagano) with no ties to Manning, will part ways with the 36-year old franchise icon after 13 memorable seasons — and soon. Anthony J. Causi ON THE WAY OUT? Peyton Manning may have played his last game with the Colts thanks to his uncertain future following neck surgery and Indianapolis likely drafting Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck with the No.1 pick in April’s NFL Draft. The exact timeline, however, is shrouded in mystery: The Colts must pay Manning a $28 million roster bonus by the March 8 deadline in his contract or release him, but complicated language in his deal makes it unclear as of now whether the sides can agree to push back the deadline. The outcome easiest to rule out is a trade, because the Colts most likely would have to count a staggering $44 million against their salary cap next season for a player who would not even be on their team. Considering his relationship with Manning appears fractured beyond repair after a week of very public squabbling leading up to the Super Bowl, Irsay’s most palatable option would be to release No. 18. If (more like “when”) that happens, and Manning is able to show he can still throw with NFL-caliber velocity, then look for one of the most frenzied free-agent chases since Reggie White to commence. The Redskins and Dolphins already have signaled their extreme interest in a healthy Manning, and the 49ers, Cardinals and Jets probably would not be far behind. Of course, the entire situation could be moot because, according to several accounts, Manning has been cleared by doctors to resume playing but still hasn’t regained the strength in his throwing arm despite sitting out for an entire calendar year. Speculation that Manning could be forced to retire because of his lack of regeneration got a boost yesterday from Indianapolis Star columnist Bob Kravitz, a Manning confidant who said “the guy’s arm is a noodle” in a radio interview with Tony Kornheiser. “He can’t throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there’s no way of knowing whether he’s going to be ready or not,” Kravitz said. Not even Manning has claimed to be anywhere near where he was before his most recent neck surgery in terms of arm strength, which would explain an ESPN report last week that Manning would be willing to accept an incentive-laden contract from his next team. An incentive-based deal makes sense because it isn’t as if Manning needs the money — Irsay and the Colts paid him $26 million last season to be a glorified spectator as Kerry Collins, Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky took turns trying in vain to replace him. But that largesse from the Colts didn’t keep Manning from waging a public — at times embarrassingly so — war of words with Irsay during Super Bowl Week while keeping his distance from the team. Although the sides issued joint statements declaring their mutual admiration for each other, Irsay responded angrily to a leak from Manning’s camp last Friday by saying the quarterback had neither passed a physical with the Colts nor been cleared to play again by the team. ON THE WAY OUT? Peyton Manning may have played his last game with the Colts thanks to his uncertain future following neck surgery and Indianapolis likely drafting Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck with the No.1 pick in April’s NFL Draft. The extent of the Manning-Colts cold war seemed to be magnified yesterday with multiple reports from Durham, N.C., that Manning is working out and throwing at Duke with Blue Devils coach David Cutlcliffe (a longtime family friend) instead of at the Colts’ facility. If Manning can defy the heavy odds by regaining his health, it looks like he will soon be working out at another NFL team’s facility soon. Peyton’s next home? A look at Peyton Manning’s likeliest pursuers, ranked on the strength of their interest: REDSKINS Mike Shanahan is 11-21 in Washington and might be more desperate for Peyton than Dan Snyder — which is saying something. DOLPHINS With a rich, eager owner in Steve Ross, Jake Long at left tackle and a decent defense, Manning certainly could do worse than Miami. CARDINALS They showered Kevin Kolb with money (big mistake) and aren’t fully sold on Fordham’s John Skelton, yet still finished 8-8. A healthy Manning throwing to Larry Fitzgerald would keep defensive coordinators awake at night. JETS They don’t have the cap room, Peyton wouldn’t want to play in the same market as his brother or in the New York media cauldron, and Mark Sanchez almost certainly would demand a trade. The great equalizer in all this? Woody Johnson. See: Favre, Brett. 49ERS Jim Harbaugh said Niners are sticking with Alex Smith, but does he truly believe it? BROWNS Like the Dolphins, Cleveland seems perpetually in search of a decent passer and (with good reason) isn’t sold yet on Colt McCoy. Decent offensive line, but the weather is as awful as the Browns’ receivers. CHIEFS Hey, it worked out great with Joe Montana 20 years ago … BRONCOS Manning is about the only QB that John Elway could replace Tim Tebow with and still hope to get out of Denver alive. BUCCANEERS Josh Freeman’s regression cost Raheem Morris his job. Greg Schiano doesn’t want the same fate, but Glazers are notoriously cheap. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/new_place_for_peyton_Xi0CFBNV9eu6mqkJHPwCyM#ixzz1ltq5C1re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Noodle Arm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez Amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Noodle Arm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez Amirite? A noodle arm who can complete passes. I'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 A noodle arm who can complete passes. I'll take him. You had me at A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Noodle Arm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez Amirite? ive been critical of Mark but I don't believe a hurt Peyton Manning is really better than Sanchez. people make quippy remarks like 60% of Manning is better than 100% of the rest of the league. maybe but it will be closer than you think I don't want to see the Jets try it. There's no way this ends well, for whoever signs Peyton. If he was still a great Franchise Qb the Colts would keep him and groom Luck. Manning on a 2nd team will be (at best) like Montana on the Chiefs or more realistically, Joe Namath on the Rams. It will be a sad short chapter in anotherwise great career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Noodle Arm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez Amirite? I’m pretty confident we can talk Chad out of retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Anyone think maybe if Manning is willing to take a incentive laden contract, because of his injury, and uncertain status, so he can play where he wants, that his destination could be back in Indy? He loves it their, and if the contract guarantees the Colts won't have to pay more than say vet minimum if Manning can't prove healthy, why wouldn't they take this scenario? Luck can sit behind Manning for 2-3 years, and be ready to step in at 25, after learning, and watching from a future HOFer, alla Rodgers. The new rookie wage scale is set up for this kind of situation, and even if Manning proves healthy enough to be his old self, they then can entertain trade offers year 2 if they are hell bent on going with Luck year 2, or if cap ramifications make this necessary. If Manning needs to prove he is healthy, and wants to do it on his terms, and the team of his choosing, IE comfortable, and familiararity with the training staff, and doctors. Why would this be so far fetched to think it's a possibility? I'm genuinely asking am I missing something, or is it not financially feasible if he reaches all incentives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Anyone think maybe if Manning is willing to take a incentive laden contract, because of his injury, and uncertain status, so he can play where he wants, that his destination could be back in Indy? He loves it their, and if the contract guarantees the Colts won't have to pay more than say vet minimum if Manning can't prove healthy, why wouldn't they take this scenario? Luck can sit behind Manning for 2-3 years, and be ready to step in at 25, after learning, and watching from a future HOFer, alla Rodgers. The new rookie wage scale is set up for this kind of situation, and even if Manning proves healthy enough to be his old self, they then can entertain trade offers year 2 if they are hell bent on going with Luck year 2, or if cap ramifications make this necessary. If Manning needs to prove he is healthy, and wants to do it on his terms, and the team of his choosing, IE comfortable, and familiararity with the training staff, and doctors. Why would this be so far fetched to think it's a possibility? I'm genuinely asking am I missing something, or is it not financially feasible if he reaches all incentives? Nope 1) Archie said that won't happen 2) The new CBA won't allow it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Terrible thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Lombardi: Peyton cannot throw to his left Feb 9 2/9/2012 10:31:24 AM |More Appearing on Bill Simmons Bs Report this morning, NFL Network's Mike Lombardi said people who are catching Peyton Manning's passes as he rehabs say his passes not only lack velocity but that he cannot throw to his left. He can't throw the ball across his body, because he doesn't feel it. People that catch the ball for him say he doesn't really have velocity on the ball yet." Lombardi is skeptical of any franchise hinging its hopes on Manning. The hope, of course, is that Manning will regain feeling in his arm as the nerve regenerates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nope 1) Archie said that won't happen 2) The new CBA won't allow it So your telling me the CBA states that a team is not allowed to cut a player, and resign him say 2 weeks later, or even 2 months later, at a lower paying contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The hope, of course, is that Manning will regain feeling in his arm as the nerve regenerates im not a doctor but that seems like it could take a long time, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 im not a doctor but that seems like it could take a long time, nerves grow back an inch a year-so yea, you may be right in your assessmment Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 ive been critical of Mark but I don't believe a hurt Peyton Manning is really better than Sanchez. people make quippy remarks like 60% of Manning is better than 100% of the rest of the league. maybe but it will be closer than you think I don't want to see the Jets try it. There's no way this ends well, for whoever signs Peyton. If he was still a great Franchise Qb the Colts would keep him and groom Luck. Manning on a 2nd team will be (at best) like Montana on the Chiefs or more realistically, Joe Namath on the Rams. It will be a sad short chapter in anotherwise great career. Here is the one thing you miss... Peyton Manning's brain did not have surgery, so he still knows how to make smart decisions. Now can he sync up he brain (what he sees) with what his arm is capable of doing NOW (not in his prime?).. that's the question. If he can, he's 1000% better than Mark Sanchez. It's not like our QB didn't win us games in 2011. He LOST US games. We need to eliminate those mistakes. If Manning can do that, even if he is 60% of his former self, then we would be ahead of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Kravitz is an idiot and is speaking out of turn just like every other "source". Just like with Favre, you mention their names and you get hits or sell papers. Manning has been quoted as saying that all the speculation and rumors are just that, rumors and nothing more. I posted his quote in another thread and can post the entire interview to put this nonsense to rest. He has not made any offers to play for a contract that is incentive laden and if he did he would stay with the Colts. End of story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The fact that the Jets are even in the conversation regarding throwing big $ at a guy with a balsa wood neck just shows how poorly regarded Snachez is. This whole thing could very well end up with the HC and GM fired. Stick with the QB bust, it sinks them and if they throw money at Manning and he fails just say bye bye to the whole regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The fact that the Jets are even in the conversation regarding throwing big $ at a guy with a balsa wood neck just shows how poorly regarded Snachez is. This whole thing could very well end up with the HC and GM fired. Stick with the QB bust, it sinks them and if they throw money at Manning and he fails just say bye bye to the whole regime. If it sinks Rex it is his own fault. It was his decision to trade up and draft Sanchez. It was his decision to start him from day 1 with no semblance of anything behind him. If Sanchez sinks Rex's ship, then that's because he made the decision to have an inexperienced guy as his first mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 If anyone needs me I'll be vomiting. So freakin sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I don't want to see the Jets try it. There's no way this ends well, for whoever signs Peyton. If he was still a great Franchise Qb the Colts would keep him and groom Luck. They'd have to spend $51 million out of a $120 million cap to keep both Peyton and Luck on the roster. No way Manning is an Indianapolis Colt on March 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Appearing on Bill Simmons Bs Report this morning, NFL Network's Mike Lombardi said people who are catching Peyton Manning's passes as he rehabs say his passes not only lack velocity but that he cannot throw to his left. Nor can Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 If it sinks Rex it is his own fault. It was his decision to trade up and draft Sanchez. It was his decision to start him from day 1 with no semblance of anything behind him. If Sanchez sinks Rex's ship, then that's because he made the decision to have an inexperienced guy as his first mate. Rex can survive this if he can somehow get the defense back to a top 2-3 unit. When this was the case they were able to survive MS's deficencies to a large degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Rex can survive this if he can somehow get the defense back to a top 2-3 unit. When this was the case they were able to survive MS's deficencies to a large degree. To get the defense back on track he has to bring in a few key pieces. That means FA money, draft picks, etc. Problem is that it isn't that unit that is the problem. If they draft defense heavily again early on, this team will struggle again on offense. Sanchez will get one more season to figure it out. Rex might only get the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Too bad Pennington retired. Or we could have a had a head to head compeitition of who has the better noodle arm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 It's still early yet, but the early reports from his workouts at Duke are that he can't throw across his body and can't throw left. Just repeating what I heard on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Here. Just found a link online to the report. http://www.stampedeb...ow-the-football edit. Nevermind. Someone else already posted it first. Some soon to be banned slimeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 It's still early yet, but the early reports from his workouts at Duke are that he can't throw across his body and can't throw left. Just repeating what I heard on the radio. Here. Just found a link online to the report. http://www.stampedeb...ow-the-football Come on, Peyton will be fine in 6 months because nerves miraculously regenerate all the time. So what that in over a year he doesn't have the arm strength and can't throw left because he can't feel it. He's been cleared by doctors to play--supposedly--that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Come on, Peyton will be fine in 6 months because nerves miraculously regenerate all the time. So what that in over a year he doesn't have the arm strength and can't throw left because he can't feel it. He's been cleared by doctors to play--supposedly--that's all that matters. Obviously if he can't throw he can't throw. I like his head for the game. His enormous, elephant man head. But agree he has to have a certain minimum from the neck down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Obviously if he can't throw he can't throw. I like his head for the game. His enormous, elephant man head. But agree he has to have a certain minimum from the neck down True. The main point is that just because Sanchez is an idiot doesn't mean that Peyton Pennington is the SB opportunity option. Peyton's intelligence and feel for the game are without question, but he absolutely has to get his arm strength back to what it once was to be successful. This isn't MLB when a flamethrower can be successful later on in his career as a junkballer. Peyton losing his fastball will mean that the offense will be limited because he'll refrain from making certain throws because he knows he can't complete them and then any opposing D playing against him will exploit that. Again, I stick by my stance that Peyton will never play again. Being medically cleared to play is not determinitive. Whether he can perform at the level he believes he can succeed is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 sign this expensive broken QB ! wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Here. Just found a link online to the report. http://www.stampedeb...ow-the-football edit. Nevermind. Someone else already posted it first. Some soon to be banned slimeball. ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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