rillo Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hibbert has really impressed me, totally different guy from last year IMO. I would put STAT on him, also where the hell is Camby? Get him in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 got party food for a basketball game haven't done that in like ever Did you keep it down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hibbert has really impressed me, totally different guy from last year IMO. I would put STAT on him, also where the hell is Camby? Get him in there If Woodson ain't going to use him anyway send him in there to give Hibbert a hard foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Did you keep it down? ugh. thank god i didn't get anything expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 If Woodson ain't going to use him anyway send him in there to give Hibbert a hard foul they beat up hibbert everyday in practice to make him tough on offense and to avoid foul trouble on defense. he's well coached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Is it just me or does Melo look bloated? No, it's just you. You're too hate-filled to realize that he wears a flack jacket under his jersey to protect his ribs. He's been wearing that for years. If you can't score you can't win. That's what it came down to. Pacers only scored 82 points and shot 35%. The rebounding killed the Knicks. They have to get close in the rebounding numbers in order for the other aspects of the game to fall into their favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 When a JAG like Roy Hibbert is destroying your supposed franchise DPOY center, you're in deep deep sh*t. I can't see any way the Knicks win this series. It's very troubling when an opposing player completely dominates a position matchup. If Tyson continues to get bitched in this series I'll agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Pretty much how I expected this series to go. Pacers play solid half court D, the Knicks stand around and watch in the half court set. Pretty much a recipe for disaster for the Knicks. They needed to shoot lights out to win this series, which clearly isnt happening and now its taking its toll. Melo and Smith are absolutely useless players when they're not hitting. They are not the type of players who impact any other part of the game to compensate for their lack of scoring. Granted Melo was the only one providing any scoring, he was still absolutely awful. Very disappointed in Tyson Chandler. While I dont think Hibbert is a JAG, like someone said, I think he's a pretty solid old school type center, but he shouldnt be giving Chandler this much trouble. Woodson's is really blowing this series if you ask me. His substitutions and line-ups he's throwing out there are maddening. Starting 3 guards made zero sense, IMO. He finally had Martin and Chandler on the court, it made the game ugly and close and then he never went back to it again, meanwhile they are getting destroyed on the boards. I'll be surprised if this goes 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 IDK what's up with Tyson. He's either hurt, or he's not happy with the team(Melo, JR in particular.) He rips them pretty badly in the paper this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 IDK what's up with Tyson. He's either hurt, or he's not happy with the team(Melo, JR in particular.) He rips them pretty badly in the paper this morning. Implied that they don't have the "great, great, great player" that can impose his will upon the offense at the expense of passing the ball. Ow. “Honestly, we’re doing it to ourselves,” Chandler said on Sunday. “I watched the tape myself and there are open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team and for the betterment of your teammates. So when you drive in the paint and you draw, you kick it. I think we need to do a better job of allowing the game to dictate who takes the shots and not the individuals.” ... “I’m not saying anyone is doing it maliciously," Chandler said on Sunday. “I think it is more so you get into a situation where you want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot where you (should) stick to the game plan. A good team wins basketball games. Unless you’re a great, great, great, great individual … and we only have a few of those come through.” Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/chandler-team-knix-bricks-article-1.1342211#ixzz2TBGj5EBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Chandler shouldn't be calling anyone out. He's getting owned by a mediocre player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Chandler shouldn't be calling anyone out. He's getting owned by a mediocre player. Tyson does need to get his head out of his ass on defense I agree....but he didnt say anything wrong though either regarding the ball movement. However Hibbert has been beasting since the ASG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm about 90% sure that Tyson is going to get neck surgery after the season. He usually eats Hibbert alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm about 90% sure that Tyson is going to get neck surgery after the season. He usually eats Hibbert alive. He looks fairly healthy when he's throwing down his lobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The most troubling aspect about Tyson's comments is that he has taken zero responsibility for Hibbert abusing him. Also note that Melo has outrebounded Tyson thus far in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The most troubling aspect about Tyson's comments is that he has taken zero responsibility for Hibbert abusing him. Also note that Melo has outrebounded Tyson thus far in this series. From what I read into this whole story is that he's pissed about how the offense is being run and doesnt feel like being a defender and garbage man on offense for what he deems crappy possessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 hibbert is no jag. as a former 5 I can tell you he's well coached and legit he's not akeem, but he's no slouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 From what I read into this whole story is that he's pissed about how the offense is being run and doesnt feel like being a defender and garbage man on offense for what he deems crappy possessionsBut Tyson has always been a garbage man. It's not like he has any real offensive game. He has no post moves or jump shot. He can only score at the rim. We'll see how it goes. He has to defend better, rebound better, and finish at the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 But Tyson has always been a garbage man. It's not like he has any real offensive game. He has no post moves or jump shot. He can only score at the rim. We'll see how it goes. He has to defend better, rebound better, and finish at the rim. I am still waiting for chandler to make a real move. how many practices has this guy been to and he can't pull off a sikma pivot or a drop step in a real game ? it's bizarre. he is agile and hostile, but has no skillz maybe melo can teach him the dream shake. I worshipped the dream when I was playing. wore number 34 for him. I bet if chandler even tried it he'd fall down, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 LOL, Larz, exactly. We all know Tyson is not an offensive weapon. He could score no points this season and the Knicks could win if he did his job and shut Hibbert down. Instead, Hibbert is handing Tyson his ass. Does Tyson say he needs to play better? No, hr blames teammates. The media and fans should be calling him out on it. This is Tyson's 15th playoff game coming up as a Knick. Can anyone name a single standout performance by him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 But Tyson has always been a garbage man. It's not like he has any real offensive game. He has no post moves or jump shot. He can only score at the rim. We'll see how it goes. He has to defend better, rebound better, and finish at the rim. I agree with you...and he's more motivated to be the garbage guy/crazy defender when there's quality sets. Tyson doesnt want the ball on offense, he never has, he just wants better sets. We've all played ball here at some point..there's nothing more frustrating that running up and down the court when there's low iq shots going up with little passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gqxluvx Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 But But Tyson Chandler is a borderline HOFer....do you think the Knicks can trade him for Drew Gooden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I am still waiting for chandler to make a real move. how many practices has this guy been to and he can't pull off a sikma pivot or a drop step in a real game ? it's bizarre. he is agile and hostile, but has no skillz maybe melo can teach him the dream shake. I worshipped the dream when I was playing. wore number 34 for him. I bet if chandler even tried it he'd fall down, lol LOL, Larz, exactly. We all know Tyson is not an offensive weapon. He could score no points this season and the Knicks could win if he did his job and shut Hibbert down. Instead, Hibbert is handing Tyson his ass. Does Tyson say he needs to play better? No, hr blames teammates. The media and fans should be calling him out on it. This is Tyson's 15th playoff game coming up as a Knick. Can anyone name a single standout performance by him? It's hard to fathom; the guy is very nimble for his size, has good hands and has shot over 70% from the line his last four or five years in the league, it doesn't make any sense why he hasn't even tried to work on his game. If he could have developed even a 10 foot jumper, that would open things up on the floor tenfold. It's pretty infuriating actually. I don't see why these guys don't do it, if for no other reason than to extend their career and make more money. The dream is one of the few players I can think who seemd to get better with age and was productive at a late age because he developed his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Shump is playing; no structural damage which is fine, but still don't like seeing a kid playing with swelling in his surgically repaired knee. Also, first time we've gone big in while: Felton, Shump, Melo, Martin, Chandler. Video of Shump warming up and throwing it down off two feet: dude makes it look so effortless. (have to click on the link, once again these Vine videos dont embedd for whatever reason) https://vines.s3.amazonaws.com/v/videos/522EA365-0196-4282-B1BD-40EA927D62CD-5419-000007008E49B76D_1.1.mp4?versionId=DIl6tYUuNxQMm4_uZmWDUaZUOVjR69va Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Martin ans Chandler eh? Look for Melo to eclipse the 50 shot mark tonight. I dont know how I feel about this....the best the Knicks have looked this postseason has been with Prigioni on the floor and Woody seems to be phasing him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 JR Smith is practically burning money. Cannot recall any athlete with free agency pending taking a torch to his future like this. SImply though if Melo can start shooting well this 2nd half they could pull it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 JR Smith is practically burning money. Cannot recall any athlete with free agency pending taking a torch to his future like this. SImply though if Melo can start shooting well this 2nd half they could pull it out. JR was never leaving anyways...Knicks have his early Bird rights and an under the table deal with him. There's a reason his bro travels with the team and his Dad is employed by MSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Watching this Knicks roster makes me feel a little better about the future of the Nets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Watching this Knicks roster makes me feel a little better about the future of the Nets. The roster is workable if the organization as a whole looks itself in the mirror and allows a real coach handle this team and not a babysitter that enables guys who need to get up their "shots" Woodson is a good guy and a Im sure a great assistant...but him vs Vogel is a monstrous mismatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Nice D, Melo. Really looking like he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 the 2013 new york knicks : still better than denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 JR was never leaving anyways...Knicks have his early Bird rights and an under the table deal with him. There's a reason his bro travels with the team and his Dad is employed by MSG. May be. But is Jim Dolan going to be in a big rush to write him a big check off this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 May be. But is Jim Dolan going to be in a big rush to write him a big check off this? they're golfing buddies so im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 George blows by Melo again, he yells at some else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 The roster is workable if the organization as a whole looks itself in the mirror and allows a real coach handle this team and not a babysitter that enables guys who need to get up their "shots" Woodson is a good guy and a Im sure a great assistant...but him vs Vogel is a monstrous mismatch Doc Rivers also made him look like an overmatched CYO coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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