Matt39 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 JR is going to cost the Knicks the series imo. He was still awful last night. Just idiotic decisions with the basketball and the inability to make quick decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The Pacers always turn the ball over and they're a poor FT shooting team. So last night was no different. The Hill issue is big however. If the Knicks don't get destroyed on boards and they make their open shots they'll win going away. The problem is they've only done that in 2 games. Back to FTs, lost in all the misses was the disparity in attempts. It wasn't like the Knicks weren't driving. They refs simply weren't calling the fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Whos thought Tyson Chandler would be a fringe player for the Hall of Fame? For what? Riding people's coattails? He couldn't carry Derrick Coleman's jock. Did somebody actually call him a fringe HOF player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Whos thought Tyson Chandler would be a fringe player for the Hall of Fame? For what? Riding people's coattails? He couldn't carry Derrick Coleman's jock. Images of Derrick Coleman showing up injured for practice with a bag filled with his McDonalds lunch as his Nets' teammates tried to practice. Please. Chandler is not that kind of stupid. In fact he seems like a pretty good guy. . WHat ever he said this week was borne of frustration, not being a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 my feeling : knicks win going away to force game 7, they actually get a bucket from kidd to boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 my feeling : knicks win going away to force game 7, they actually get a bucket from kidd to boot If Hill plays, it's down to the wire, his length really bothers Felton and any other ball-handler, if he doesn't play, we win by double digits. I'm predicting no more than 6 minutes for bother Kidd and Amare, whereas Cope, unless he fouls is ass off the court, will get 20+. It'd be nice to keep him, but rumors circulating that although he wants to stay with NY, as he's a jersey kid, he'd like to get paid after putting in his does overseas for 5 years. His agent argued he's worth what Novak got plus a little and I honestly don't blame him. He deserves more than the qualifying offer + 200k we can give him for being one year with the team or whatever the rule is. Regardless, I would really like to see them win convincingly, as I don't think those young kids have the mental fortitude to come into The Garden and win a game 7 after being up 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Images of Derrick Coleman showing up injured for practice with a bag filled with his McDonalds lunch as his Nets' teammates tried to practice. Please. Chandler is not that kind of stupid. In fact he seems like a pretty good guy. . WHat ever he said this week was borne of frustration, not being a jerk. I think Dom's point was that, douchebaggery aside, Coleman had more talent and skill in one of his chins than Tyson Chandler has in his entire body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If Hill sits tonight, I think the Knicks win the series and the right to get swept by Miami (with the way they've been playing). If he plays, the Knickerbockers are setting up tee times for next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gqxluvx Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Whos thought Tyson Chandler would be a fringe player for the Hall of Fame? For what? Riding people's coattails? He couldn't carry Derrick Coleman's jock. That would be GiantFanSMC but he obviously will ignore you because he ignores anything that proves how wrong he is Anyway if hill plays and is effective I think Indy will pull it out if he doesn't play or is ineffective the Knicks will force a game 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 George Hill back................... **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 That would be GiantFanSMC but he obviously will ignore you because he ignores anything that proves how wrong he is Anyway if hill plays and is effective I think Indy will pull it out if he doesn't play or is ineffective the Knicks will force a game 7 Ehh, I don't think it's as crazy as you make it seem, there is an outside shot of it, although I wouldn't bet on it. Ignoring his injury history, which is pretty extensive, if he continues at his current level of play through the remainder of his contract and then can play 4 or 5 more years after at a decently high level, he has a good shot at 10k points and 10k rebounds, not sure anyone who has those numbers is not in the HOF. His resume: All Star x 1 NBA Championship x 1 Gold Medal x 1 DPOY x 1 1st team defense x 1 2nd team defense x 2 FIBA Championship x 2 McDonald's All American x 1 Obviously not the best resume, or one I particularly feel is worthy of it, however, since he's won both an NBA championship and Olympic Gold Medal, if he's able to add a couple more 1st team defenses and all star games, to go with the 10k points and rebounds, it's certainly possible. They've let others before him in that I probably had a bigger problem with, although push comes to shove I still don't feel Chandler is a HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 But back to the Knicks; they're gonna need to use a lot more double screens and creative ways to get Felton away from Hill as his 6'4 frame really gives people fits. If felton has a big game and one of JR or Copeland can show up, it's certainly within reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Shumpert has flopped like 4 times in the first 5 minutes of the game. If he has more attempted flops than field goals, this team is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Watching the Pacers dominate the paint with a bunch of mediocre players is just depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If anyone had any (delusional) thoughts about Chandler being a borderline HoF'er, they should refer to this series and Hibbert continually abusing him on the glass, with Tyson making zero adjustments 6 games in. Get position and put a body on him for crissakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Also, HoF players don't get traded for the equivalent of a bag of balls in the prime of their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If anyone had any (delusional) thoughts about Chandler being a borderline HoF'er, they should refer to this series and Hibbert continually abusing him on the glass, with Tyson making zero adjustments 6 games in. Get position and put a body on him for crissakes. Not so sure anyone was arguing that he was a HOF caliber player, but moreso of his chances of making it. I certainly don't think he's a HOF-caliber player, not in the slightest, but I recognize the HOF is pretty weak and if he racked up 10k and 10k there's an outside shot. I had the same feelings though, he's getting absolutely beaten like a rented mule by Hibbert. The thing is though, there's not many people who watch him play that felt he was a great low-post, on ball defender. He won that DPOY for his help defense and the idea that he was single-handedly responsible for the knicks defensive turnaround and not Woodson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Ehh, I don't think it's as crazy as you make it seem, there is an outside shot of it, although I wouldn't bet on it. Ignoring his injury history, which is pretty extensive, if he continues at his current level of play through the remainder of his contract and then can play 4 or 5 more years after at a decently high level, he has a good shot at 10k points and 10k rebounds, not sure anyone who has those numbers is not in the HOF. His resume: All Star x 1 NBA Championship x 1 Gold Medal x 1 DPOY x 1 1st team defense x 1 2nd team defense x 2 FIBA Championship x 2 McDonald's All American x 1 Obviously not the best resume, or one I particularly feel is worthy of it, however, since he's won both an NBA championship and Olympic Gold Medal, if he's able to add a couple more 1st team defenses and all star games, to go with the 10k points and rebounds, it's certainly possible. They've let others before him in that I probably had a bigger problem with, although push comes to shove I still don't feel Chandler is a HOFer. There's a bunch of guys that didn't make the Hall with 10k/10k - Buck Williams, Kevin Willis, Paul Silas, Oakley, Laimbeer, Otis Thorpe, etc. Another guy who did it that didn't make the Hall with a resume way better than Chandler is Jack Sikma. The guy made one All-Star team - something he probably doesn't earn if Dwight Howard was still in his conference. No way does he belong in the company of the top-100 players in NBA history/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 What a typically lazy, stupid ******* play by JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 what the **** kind of sneaky jump ball was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Getting abuse on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Settling for jumpers. In memory of MCA - "will someone on the Knicks please drive the lane" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Olay d by Melo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 This whole thread is saved by the JohnnyHector hammer job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 JR is killing them as is Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Pussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 That would be GiantFanSMC but he obviously will ignore you because he ignores anything that proves how wrong he is Anyway if hill plays and is effective I think Indy will pull it out if he doesn't play or is ineffective the Knicks will force a game 7 LOL, youre obsessed. And, no, I never said Tyson as is is a HOFer. Get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Anyone who tries to blame any part of this inevitable loss on Melo is a complete dickbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Melo is the only one who came to play. Melo 12-20 everyone else 10 for 38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Hibbert betting dainty at the hoop on a layup that would've made it a 13 point lead is gonna haunt Indy if they blow this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Shump just went mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gqxluvx Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 LOL, youre obsessed. And, no, I never said Tyson as is is a HOFer. Get a clue. Whatever giants fan u shouldn't even be on a jets board.... Melo finally getting some help from shump and cope this is the Knicks game Indy looks tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Whatever giants fan u shouldn't even be on a jets board.... Melo finally getting some help from shump and cope this is the Knicks game Indy looks tight The board is open for all fans. Stop hating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 2 wasted possessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gqxluvx Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Hibbert is exhausted not even getting up the court JR beat on two back doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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