flgreen Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Green Day: Jets facing must-win? September, 17, 2013 Sep 17 6:00 AM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com There's no such thing as a must-win in September, but this one comes darn close -- the Jets (1-1) hosting the Bills (1-1) Sunday at MetLife Stadium. The Jets need it, badly, coming off a tough loss to the Patriots. Aside from the obvious impact on the AFC East standings -- loser owns the basement -- it's huge for the Jets because of the various circumstances surrounding the game. It's a battle of the rookie quarterbacks -- Geno Smith vs. EJ Manuel. The Jets passed twice on Manuel in the draft (ditto, Smith), but they had Smith rated higher on their draft board. Now he gets a chance to validate that faith. It's also teacher vs. pupil, Rex Ryan facing former Jets defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who holds the same position with the Bills. It would be embarrassing for the Jets if Pettine, using what he learned from Ryan, handles Smith better than his mentor does with Manuel. Plus, it's a division game. You can't lose division games at home. The Jets have owned the rivalry in recent years, having won six of the last seven (they lost the 2012 season finale), but you get the sense there's a new energy in Buffalo under rookie coach Doug Marrone. ICYMI: Positive news on the injury front: DE Muhammad Wilkerson (sprained ankle), WR Jeremy Kerley (concussion) and LB Quinton Coples (fractured ankle) were on the practice field Monday, participating to varying degrees. Did the Jets miss Kerley or what? ... Smith is finding out what it's like to be involved in a quarterback controversy. On Monday, he was grilled with questions about his week-to-week status, about Mark Sanchez's claim that he had the competition locked up before his injury and about new rumblings that Matt Simms could be a factor. Hmm, interesting timing on the Simms stuff, wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Must win in week 3 when the team is 1-1 after the first 2? New level of idiocy to even hint that it somehow might be even a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Green Day: Jets facing must-win? September, 17, 2013 Sep 17 6:00 AM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com There's no such thing as a must-win in September, /End article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It is important game because it is a division rival. We need to win these diviison games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 For some reason I feel like Rich Cimini is laughing at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I wish the organization would do something about these vulturous "journalists" peppering our young QB's with this ******* BULLsh*t every freaking day. "Hey, do you feel safe in your job"..."Hey, hearing whispers you may not be the starter in week 4".... What the EFF Idzik, I thought you were gonna bring the hammer in this joint. BALL UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's not must win, but it's important. The Jets have a semblance of momentum going and the Bills are a team they should beat. A loss on Sunday means they have to win against the Titans, because then the meat of the schedule hits with Falcons, Steelers, Pats, Bengals and Saints. If they go on a slide, they're going to have a hard time coming out of it with the talent they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I would not say this is a must win for the team, but for Rex, it starts carrying extra importance. He is certainly being judged, and division games count extra. He has shown in recent years he can't beat the Pats, he better damn well beat someone in the division, because they have caught up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Didnt read. This utterly stupid. Why should a team that is going to be drafting in the top 3 in a "must-win" situation in week 3? Silly media. Can never make up there mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 It is important game because it is a division rival. We need to win these diviison games Agreed Particularly after giving away a divisional game last week the Jets should have won. Not must win, but certainly important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's not must win, but it's important. The Jets have a semblance of momentum going and the Bills are a team they should beat. A loss on Sunday means they have to win against the Titans, because then the meat of the schedule hits with Falcons, Steelers, Pats, Bengals and Saints. If they go on a slide, they're going to have a hard time coming out of it with the talent they have. I know it's early in the year...yes the Buffalo game is important...but I'm not so sure the meat of the schedule is as tough as some of the pundits predicted in the preseason. Can see us winning more than not if we can just get a small improvement from the offense. The Falcons and Saints games seem the only games that were heavy dogs. Just not enough firepower to keep up. The Titans are improved but dependent on the running game (versus our strength on defense). The Steelers are terrible. Pats are in a down year. Bengals could pose problems but they have many games where the play ugly as well. Thought they should have put the Steelers away with ease last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 the sooner everyone accepts that this is a rebuilding year with a rookie QB the sooner we can get realistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 the sooner everyone accepts that this is a rebuilding year with a rookie QB the sooner we can get realistic expectations. I'm pretty sure everyone in the world had the Jets picking top 3 next season. Not sure what expectations you're referring to. Which makes this article even more ridiculous. The Jets were the worst team ever assembled being led by the worst HC in the NFL before the season started and now they are in a must-win situation in week 3. lulza. The F'ing media, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Didnt read. This utterly stupid. Why should a team that is going to be drafting in the top 3 in a "must-win" situation in week 3? Silly media. Can never make up there mind. Truth. They can;t make up their mind. They just make up everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 its a must win so we don't go 1-5 our next few games and become a laughingstock more then we already are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I know it's early in the year...yes the Buffalo game is important...but I'm not so sure the meat of the schedule is as tough as some of the pundits predicted in the preseason. Can see us winning more than not if we can just get a small improvement from the offense. The Falcons and Saints games seem the only games that were heavy dogs. Just not enough firepower to keep up. The Titans are improved but dependent on the running game (versus our strength on defense). The Steelers are terrible. Pats are in a down year. Bengals could pose problems but they have many games where the play ugly as well. Thought they should have put the Steelers away with ease last night. +1 I've been meaning to write this for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm pretty sure everyone in the world had the Jets picking top 3 next season. Not sure what expectations you're referring to. Which makes this article even more ridiculous. The Jets were the worst team ever assembled being led by the worst HC in the NFL before the season started and now they are in a must-win situation in week 3. lulza. The F'ing media, man. ...except when Sanchez was injured and Smith came in, a lot of people (including some here) decided to raise their expectations. Hence, the really harsh/blind rage judgements of Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 the sooner everyone accepts that this is a rebuilding year with a rookie QB the sooner we can get realistic expectations. so you have us winning 2 more games this whole year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKlecko Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Must win in week 3 when the team is 1-1 after the first 2? New level of idiocy to even hint that it somehow might be even a little bit. Exactly, particularly when the team is in a rebuilding year. The outcome of this game doesn't mean squat. It's more important that the young guys show progress and play better and better each week. Wins are gravy this year. They need to see who is going to help them going forward and develop those guys. In many ways, it would be better to play very well, but lose the rest of their games so they have ideal draft position to fill their needs at WR, TE, OL, OLB, S and maybe even QB. I don't know how that moron keeps his job. I guess it just shows how clueless ESPN is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKlecko Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's not must win, but it's important. The Jets have a semblance of momentum going and the Bills are a team they should beat. A loss on Sunday means they have to win against the Titans, because then the meat of the schedule hits with Falcons, Steelers, Pats, Bengals and Saints. If they go on a slide, they're going to have a hard time coming out of it with the talent they have. IMO it's important only for Rex's future with the team and if Idzik is really concerned about their final W-L record. IMO it's much more important that they do whatever it takes to continue the development of Geno, Richardson, Milliner, and the other youngsters. I also don't know that they should beat Buffalo. Buffalo has a very good defense. Their DBs are underrated, and their front 7 may be better than ours. They have better RBs, WRs, TEs and maybe even a better OL and QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 ...except when Sanchez was injured and Smith came in, a lot of people (including some here) decided to raise their expectations. Hence, the really harsh/blind rage judgements of Smith. Did they raise them? I never really saw that. I saw similar expectations if not worse since he was a rookie who really shouldnt be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's not must win, but it's important. The Jets have a semblance of momentum going and the Bills are a team they should beat. A loss on Sunday means they have to win against the Titans, because then the meat of the schedule hits with Falcons, Steelers, Pats, Bengals and Saints. If they go on a slide, they're going to have a hard time coming out of it with the talent they have. This is somewhat contradictory to your earlier assessment, which I agreed with, that Geno Smith, Sheldon Richardson, Dee Milliner, Steven Hill, and Quinton Coples are really all that matter this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Did they raise them? I never really saw that. I saw similar expectations if not worse since he was a rookie who really shouldnt be starting. I didn't think this team was going to be very good, but I still had them at 4-5 wins, so I think the dire predictions are fewer and farther between than you make them out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 This is somewhat contradictory to your earlier assessment, which I agreed with, that Geno Smith, Sheldon Richardson, Dee Milliner, Steven Hill, and Quinton Coples are really all that matter this year. As well some semblance of an offensive identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 ...except when Sanchez was injured and Smith came in, a lot of people (including some here) decided to raise their expectations. Hence, the really harsh/blind rage judgements of Smith. Really? That's funny because if I read anything about Geno before the season started it was about how he was the most ill-prepared QB to start an NFL game ever. Now the organization must commit to him at all costs and we are in a must win situation in week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I didn't think this team was going to be very good, but I still had them at 4-5 wins, so I think the dire predictions are fewer and farther between than you make them out to be. The only people who saw the Jets winning more than 2-4 games, were Jets fans. And many of Jets fan were predicting similar. Point being, for a team who was going to win, like you say, 4-5 games...there is no such thing as a must-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Really? That's funny because if I read anything about Geno before the season started it was about how he was the most ill-prepared QB to start an NFL game ever. Now the organization must commit to him at all costs and we are in a must win situation in week 3. the media said that Geno wasn't prepared. I'm telling you, nobody's outraged at the outcome of the NE game if they truly expected the Jets to lose, and the only people calling for Geno to be benched this week seem to be the people who either hate Idzik or the people who, somewhere along the line, started expecting a raw, rookie QB who didn't look ready in preseason to play like he's been in the league for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The only people who saw the Jets winning more than 2-4 games, were Jets fans. And many of Jets fan were predicting similar. Point being, for a team who was going to win, like you say, 4-5 games...there is no such thing as a must-win. Final standings have nothing to do with "predictions" made at the beginning of the year. If all we were to go by were these predictions, there would be no sense in playing the games. That is the fun of the sport. For a 1-1 team, that has already lost an in division game, with this being a home game against another division team, it is a pretty important game, if they are to do anything this year. Predictions be damned. EDIT-BTW-the writer of this article predicted the Jets to finish 6-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Final standings have nothing to do with "predictions" made at the beginning of the year. If all we were to go by were these predictions, there would be no sense in playing the games. That is the fun of the sport. For a 1-1 team, that has already lost an in division game, with this being a home game against another division team, it is a pretty important game, if they are to do anything this year. Predictions be damned. No sh*t? lol Thanks for educating me on the difference between predictions and standings. You're missing my point or dont care to recognize it. I was just taking a jab at how silly the media is. Either way, if we're going to act like this season matters now, its still not a "must-win" game. It's important, just like every other game they play on the schedule but not a must-win. Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 No sh*t? lol Thanks for educating me on the difference between predictions and standings. You're missing my point or dont care to recognize it. I was just taking a jab at how silly the media is. Either way, if we're going to act like this season matters now, its still not a "must-win" game. It's important, just like every other game they play on the schedule but not a must-win. Not yet. Most writers, do not make the headlines, editors do that. If you want to make the "media" out to be the bad guy for why your football team is not very good, have at it. If that makes you sleep better at night. I will bet the boogie man still scares you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 If you want to make the "media" out to be the bad guy for why your football team is not very good, have at it. um, wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Most writers, do not make the headlines, editors do that. If you want to make the "media" out to be the bad guy for why your football team is not very good, have at it. If that makes you sleep better at night. I will bet the boogie man still scares you too. WTF are you talking about? Are you really not following? never mind. holy sh*t man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 um, wut? Hold me. The boogie man is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 um, wut? All I read here is how the media is "out to get" the Jets. Coverage is saturated more than any time in history, and there is a lack of interesting things to write. Stories are 85% opinion, 15% newsworthy. People need to realize that, and to take everything with a grain of salt. "The media" "predicted" the Jets to fail. Some narrative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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