HessStation Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 All 'dem brains and he doesn't even know how to embed an image. Pity... Clearly not who I thought he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think if they give Sanchez a bunch of weapons, he'll be Russell Wilson. Thoughts? Ask the Bengals how that philosophy has worked with Dalton. You put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think if they give Sanchez a bunch of Bevell, he'll be Russell Wilson. Thoughts? fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ask the Bengals how that philosophy has worked with Dalton. You put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. You mean weapons are overrated, and if the QB sucks, it doesn't matter if you have Jerry Rice, and Lance Alworth out there? Blasphemy. you are killing Geno's and Rex's crutch they are using for saving their jobs every week. How dare you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 it is difficult for me to imagine rex ever willingly benching geno for ineffectiveness if it means dragging sanchez back out there. sanchez has a chance to compete for starting job on some other teams--don't care what jets front office says, he won't get that chance if he stays here. time to move on. it is best for the player and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ask the Bengals how that philosophy has worked with Dalton. You put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. you going to bash Dalton for having a damn good season but sh*tting the bed in the playoffs ? What say you about Peyton manning sh*tting the bed for most of his career in the playoffs ? Regular Season GOAT Playoff GOAT of the farm animal variety? Seriously Dalton is still young and did improve a lot no reason to think he can't keep up that improvement moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Look at me go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 it is difficult for me to imagine rex ever willingly benching geno for ineffectiveness if it means dragging sanchez back out there. sanchez has a chance to compete for starting job on some other teams--don't care what jets front office says, he won't get that chance if he stays here. time to move on. it is best for the player and the team. Yeah, all this. You can't bring the former starter back as a back-up, especially when he's still, age-wise, a viable option to be a long term solution when you're trying to move on. It just doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Your more than welcome to carry the hatred into every aspect of the guys existence if you feel the need to do so. I'm just pointing out what I saw and giving credit where credit is due. #contractyear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Yeah, all this. You can't bring the former starter back as a back-up, especially when he's still, age-wise, a viable option to be a long term solution when you're trying to move on. It just doesn't work. Very true but it depends on what the team thinks of Geno and if they think Mark Can still be a viable option. They could still bring in Mark and have them battle it out once again in training camp . Ya never know what their thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I would like him gone because I do not want to see any more tapes of the buttfumble when I am watching Jet games. Networls would find a way to get them in. Besides, he is old trash. I would rather have new trash. New trash has the spring and summer to learn the system Sanchez has buddies on the team who would spread his discontent around if he stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Very true but it depends on what the team thinks of Geno and if they think Mark Can still be a viable option. They could still bring in Mark and have them battle it out once again in training camp . Ya never know what their thinking MRW when I think of another offseason of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Very true but it depends on what the team thinks of Geno and if they think Mark Can still be a viable option. They could still bring in Mark and have them battle it out once again in training camp . Ya never know what their thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Very true but it depends on what the team thinks of Geno and if they think Mark Can still be a viable option. They could still bring in Mark and have them battle it out once again in training camp . Ya never know what their thinking This would be an awful decision. They've already given up on Sanchez. If they're giving up on Geno too, they need to go to option 3. Not back to option 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Don't know the answer to that question since we have not had weapons for the last 14 years What's the more likely scenario: we've gone ten+ years without a singular talent at WR, RB and TE or that we've been unable to find a QB? Occam's razor man, we just can't fill that one god damned position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Wow, just finished that other thread. Awesome ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 This would be an awful decision. They've already given up on Sanchez. If they're giving up on Geno too, they need to go to option 3. Not back to option 2. I think they should go back to square one Draft the QB you want no matter what it takes. If they feel that QB is not in this draft then so be it. But if they do they need to go get him. Like I said in previous threads I would Get Manzeil in here and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The standards are so low for Sanchez that smash is praising him for showing up on the sideline injured. What a warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What's the more likely scenario: we've gone ten+ years without a singular talent at WR, RB and TE or that we've been unable to find a QB? Occam's razor man, we just can't fill that one god damned position. Jets quarterback history is basically a two peak mountain: 1969 and 1997, with a slighly less deep area inbetween for Kenny O. that is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 why bring your posse into this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think they should go back to square one Draft the QB you want no matter what it takes. If they feel that QB is not in this draft then so be it. But if they do they need to go get him. Like I said in previous threads I would Get Manzeil in here and move on. Dude it would take a RGIII or higher bounty to do that. NO way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Dude it would take a RGIII or higher bounty to do that. NO way!! Redskins have been set back so far because of that deal. Yes, finding a franchise QB may well be worth all they gave in some instances, but if you whiff or even get a guy who is good but not great, you're screwed. No one in this draft seems worth dealing 2 first rounders for, much less 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Dude it would take a RGIII or higher bounty to do that. NO way!! So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Very true but it depends on what the team thinks of Geno and if they think Mark Can still be a viable option. They could still bring in Mark and have them battle it out once again in training camp . Ya never know what their thinking I think Sanchez coming back is possible, but I don't think it's the plan - for either the player or the organization. There are a lot of benefits for the team just to get rid of the bad vibe that Sanchez is, and a lot of merit to the change of scenery concept. For Sanchez, he's very likely to get better offers both money- and opportunity-wise from somewhere other than the Jets. For the Jets, the idea of resuscitating a Schaub, Kolb, or Cassel is probably a lot more appealing than the dead end Sanchez represents. Now if the Jets strike out in free agency, and Sanchez isn't getting the offers to be the starter as soon as he walks in the building, maybe that could change. But I don't think it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think they should go back to square one Draft the QB you want no matter what it takes. If they feel that QB is not in this draft then so be it. But if they do they need to go get him. Like I said in previous threads I would Get Manzeil in here and move on. Manziel, and the means to get him, likely sets this team back another 5 years. Throwing jump balls to Evans off his back foot is unlikely to work quite as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's If Manziel was Luck it's a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I think Sanchez coming back is possible, but I don't think it's the plan - for either the player or the organization. There are a lot of benefits for the team just to get rid of the bad vibe that Sanchez is, and a lot of merit to the change of scenery concept. For Sanchez, he's very likely to get better offers both money- and opportunity-wise from somewhere other than the Jets. For the Jets, the idea of resuscitating a Schaub, Kolb, or Cassel is probably a lot more appealing than the dead end Sanchez represents. Now if the Jets strike out in free agency, and Sanchez isn't getting the offers to be the starter as soon as he walks in the building, maybe that could change. But I don't think it will. Well Said Slats. Personally I hope we do not look for a QB or a short term Bandaid via FA I would much rather we draft a QB or go after young promising QB's such as Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's Giving up 2-3 firsts for a sure thing franchise QB: good move. Giving up that kind of package for any QB in this draft: bad. There's a good reason that Houston, STL and Jacksonville have all been rumored to be looking to trade down, and that no one has any clue who the top QB is or when they'll be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Manziel, and the means to get him, likely sets this team back another 5 years. Throwing jump balls to Evans off his back foot is unlikely to work quite as well. sets us back from what? not like we are speeding down the highway and this will throw up the parking brake. Well Said Slats. Personally I hope we do not look for a QB or a short term Bandaid via FA I would much rather we draft a QB or go after young promising QB's such as Cousins. we need both. short term bandaid and young promising qb--although i disagree on cousins, i agree with the concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well Said Slats. Personally I hope we do not look for a QB or a short term Bandaid via FA I would much rather we draft a QB or go after young promising QB's such as Cousins. We need to have a vet like Shaun Hill who can play when called upon. But that free agent we sign will not likely be a serious threat to steal the job away from Geno or a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's I currently don't think Manziel is that guy. It'll be interesting to see what the combine brings. The fact that Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel are all projected to either go #1 overall, or drop out of the top ten (or lower) suggests to me like they all have a lot of question marks. Probably too many to give up your next three first rounders. If over the course of the draft, one of these guys does drop out of the top ten, then you can start looking at a more modest -and reasonable- deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's For what it would take to get up that high we would not be looking at good but great. Honestly if he is not named Andrew luck you stay unless someone drops to you. Manziel is way way too far from a lock to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So let me get this straight, everyone on these boards, Including you, preach constantly about the QB being the most important player on the field, yet when you have to give something up to get a good QB its a no go ? Sure you may not like this crop of QB's but if the Jets are high on one of them should they just move on or grow some balls ? MM seems to have a decent eye for QB's There are probably four QBs in next year's draft that are better prospects than any QB coming out this year. Trading up for a QB in this draft is idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 If Manziel was Luck it's a different story That's why I think it would come for less than what Washington Offered for RGIII to get Manziel. If we had to give up next years number 1 and some picks this year (maybe a 2 or a 3) to get Manziel I would do it. Keeping in mind Seattle built their team with a bunch of 4th to 6th round picks that are now playing at insanely high levels. We as Jets fans are not used to that kind of Draft success but maybe Idzik can change that. If a guy like Luck was to be in this years draft, one of the most highly touted QB's ever, it might cost even more than what Washington paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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