BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I don't think it's ever been proven that 40 time translates into upside. Or vice versa. I don't know. Agreed. They showed a list of some of the top 10-20 WRs currently in the NFL and they were saying how not many of them were breaking 4.4s. Having a sub 4.4 is great, but you need it to go along with other attributes. It's why someone like Beckham who has those giant 10" sticky hands, with the ability to get separation and run a proper route tree can be helped by a 4.3 flat, but then you have guys like Landry or Robinson who speed doesn't define their game, that a 4.5+ isn't going to kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'm sticking with the same top 5 at WR. 1. Watkins 2. Evans 3. Lee 4. Cooks 5. Beckham with Benjamin just on the outside looking in at 6. But I do think the second tier got shaken up, i.e. best guess guys like Richardson moving up, Landry/Allen down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I hate this. If we're going to watch your silly Combine events, please show us the names of who we're looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ran a 4.6 then bailed with an injury well that's good if it means we get him in the the 3rd Think Revis + Moss + End Zone hammy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Agreed. They showed a list of some of the top 10-20 WRs currently in the NFL and they were saying how not many of them were breaking 4.4s. Having a sub 4.4 is great, but you need it to go along with other attributes. It's why someone like Beckham who has those giant 10" sticky hands, with the ability to get separation and run a proper route tree can be helped by a 4.3 flat, but then you have guys like Landry or Robinson who speed doesn't define their game, that a 4.5+ isn't going to kill them. That big white dude who ran the 4.3 you could tell already wasn't 4.3 football fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 That big white dude who ran the 4.3 you could tell already wasn't 4.3 football fast. Did you see his face when he was at the 10 yard split? The most non-relaxed run I watched today. Still, it's am impressive size-speed combo, but you know he's know in the same class as Watkins or Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 well that's good if it means we get him in the the 3rd hammy ? Tweaked his calf and called it a day. If this were a game, he wouldn't have missed a snap. Speed isn't what he's known for, but that time won't help him climb into the first. You're looking at a 2nd round or early 3rd round pick who's going to do pretty much everything you want a receiver to do, besides consistently beat defenses deep. If I can't have Lee, I'm riding the Beckham/Landry bandwagon until we do something in free agency that makes me think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Did you see his face when he was at the 10 yard split? The most non-relaxed run I watched today. Still, it's am impressive size-speed combo, but you know he's know in the same class as Watkins or Beckham. Missed it, but Im sure it wasn't pretty. Thx for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Tweaked his calf and called it a day. If this were a game, he wouldn't have missed a snap. Speed isn't what he's known for, but that time won't help him climb into the first. You're looking at a 2nd round or early 3rd round pick who's going to do pretty much everything you want a receiver to do, besides consistently beat defenses deep. If I can't have Lee, I'm riding the Beckham/Landry bandwagon until we do something in free agency that makes me think otherwise. txs. yeah I'd be perfectly fine with landry, even in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Missed it, but Im sure it wasn't pretty. Thx for the info. I meant not in the same class* Despite what falcon says, there are some guys who are just naturally smooth and gifted athletes like Beckham and Watkins and even though that kid ran a 4.3, he's just didn't seem on there level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I meant not in the same class* Despite what falcon says, there are some guys who are just naturally smooth and gifted athletes like Beckham and Watkins and even though that kid ran a 4.3, he's just didn't seem on there level. Yeah, agreed. I do think if you practice enough you can improve your 40 to make it seem you're a better athlete than you really are. Someone will fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Jarvis might be an interesting late round pick, what's the story? Fwiw I like Beckham over Lee after today, but I don't know squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 FWIW Seatrunk just beasted an 11'2 broad jump, that is unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Guys, I know Falcon is a big deal, but we're really burying the lede, which is that joewillie78 went to Cornell. As a student? I guess if I believe Falcon runs a 4.5 and squats a car I can roll with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Kapri? Interesting choice by the parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Archer ran a 4.29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Storm Johnson can play....just ran a 4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 As a student? I guess if I believe Falcon runs a 4.5 and squats a car I can roll with that 4.52 to be exact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 As a student? I guess if I believe Falcon runs a 4.5 and squats a car I can roll with that Safety school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 4.52 to be exact that's impressive. very impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 4.52 to be exact W/ cape or without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thomas is fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 W/ cape or without? Alpha beasts with insane physiques don't need to wear capes (or shirts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Alpha beasts with insane physiques don't need to wear capes (or shirts). a/s/l? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Alpha beasts with insane physiques don't need to wear capes (or shirts). I'd follow you to the ends of the Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 a/s/l? 49/Undecided/Right Behind You I'd follow you to the ends of the Earth. Most would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 4.52 to be exact How tall was the building you jumped from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Should we rename this thread also? The RBs are going through drills...I could give two sh*ts about Falcon's physique (no offense alpha-man). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Should we rename this thread also? The RBs are going through drills...I could give two sh*ts about Falcon's physique (no offense alpha-man). Lache Seastrunk really, really impressed me with how explosive he was in the drills, I mean god damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Lache Seastrunk really, really impressed me with how explosive he was in the drills, I mean god damn. Seems like Carey's stock is dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilkshake69 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I knew my man Archer was going to fly today. I know Rex like big pounding RBs, but we need guys who can score from 40 yards out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Seems like Carey's stock is dropping. He's a weird one. I've seen/heard/read 1st all the way to 4th. Not even in Mayock's top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Seems like Carey's stock is dropping. Yea, pretty surprising. I tell ya what and I'm putting off the homer hat for a bit, Jeremy Hill is going to make a team pretty happy in the third or fourth round. He's got first-round talent, but he did not time well, as expected and has numerous off-the-field issues. He's a better version of Stevan Ridley and provided he gets his head on straight, he'll be a player. Doesn't fit what we need though and I'm definitely on the Seastrunk bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Lache Seastrunk really, really impressed me with how explosive he was in the drills, I mean god damn. Me too. I've moved him slightly above Sankey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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