j4jets Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/5089/vontae-davis TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline reports "word amongst insiders" is the Jets are "going hard" after free agent CB Vontae Davis. The Jets are in the market for a No. 1 corner after releasing Antonio Cromartie on Monday. PFT's Mike Florio reported Davis is expected to sign a contract on Tuesday, but it's not expected to be with the Colts. The Jets could be that mystery team with a substantial offer on the table. Coach Rex Ryan loves bigger, man-cover corners. Davis fits the bill at 5-foot-11, 204 pounds. Mar 10 - 8:05 PM Jets need a starting cover corner. Verner will easily be about $10+ mil. As long as we are not paying him Sam Shield money, this should be a good signing. Since its the FA, we will have to overpay so Im guessing this would be around $7-8mil per. He's an excellent cover corner, something that Rex loves. Pre-signing thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I have such a raging clue right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Isn't he better than Sam Shields? Why would 7-8m be an overpay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I like Davis' skillset on our D...hopefully hes done being a superdoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 BTW how come every Jet rumor originates from this Tony Pauline guy lately? Not sure whether to trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Isn't he better than Sam Shields? Why would 7-8m be an overpay? Vontae can be inconsistent at times and thats the only reason he is not the #2 corner in the NFL right now imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Is this the same Douche who used to be on the Dolphins boasting how him, and his other douchey CB partner were a better tandem than Revis, and Cro 2 years ago? If so no thanks that dude is a down grade from Cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Very streaky player who gave up a ton of TDs last year, not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 BTW how come every Jet rumor originates from this Tony Pauline guy lately? Not sure whether to trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 BTW how come every Jet rumor originates from this Tony Pauline guy lately? Not sure whether to trust him. Pauline knows more than all the beat writers combined. If you're going to listen to anyone, it should be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 31m Asked an exec to compare Davis and Verner. Said Verner steadier, but Davis more explosive and physically talented. #nyj What the heck does that mean? What what you rather have?? I guess I'd go with whoever is cheaper, healthier and a team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 31m Asked an exec to compare Davis and Verner. Said Verner steadier, but Davis more explosive and physically talented. #nyj What the heck does that mean? What what you rather have?? I guess I'd go with whoever is cheaper, healthier and a team player. Davis is a better natural player and IMO the best press corner on the market this year, which is why I'd prefer him. However, he's a bit of a jackoff and because of that can be inconsistent at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Davis is a better natural player and IMO the best press corner on the market this year, which is why I'd prefer him. However, he's a bit of a jackoff and because of that can be inconsistent at times. Seems as if Verner has better hands. Has made some incredible Int's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/5089/vontae-davis Jets need a starting cover corner. Verner will easily be about $10+ mil. As long as we are not paying him Sam Shield money, this should be a good signing. Since its the FA, we will have to overpay so Im guessing this would be around $7-8mil per. He's an excellent cover corner, something that Rex loves. Pre-signing thoughts? Did anybody watch the Colts defense this year? He's a nice player, but I wouldn't say anybody on the colts defense was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Seems as if Verner has better hands. Has made some incredible Int's Verner is a very good player. The difference between the two for our purposes is that Davis is better in press and he makes a lot of positive plays without necessarily having to force turnovers to do it. He emerged into a shutdown-type corner last season and that is the one thing that Rex is desperately in need of. I think with the way this franchise is structuring everything around Rexism you have to take your shot on a CB with that high of a ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Verner is a very good player. The difference between the two for our purposes is that Davis is better in press and he makes a lot of positive plays without necessarily having to force turnovers to do it. He emerged into a shutdown-type corner last season and that is the one thing that Rex is desperately in need of. I think with the way this franchise is structuring everything around Rexism you have to take your shot on a CB with that high of a ceiling. Thanks. That's good to know. 150 minutes to go!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Is this the same Douche who used to be on the Dolphins boasting how him, and his other douchey CB partner were a better tandem than Revis, and Cro 2 years ago? If so no thanks that dude is a down grade from Cromartie. nothing is a downgrade from last year's Cromartie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Verner is a very good player. The difference between the two for our purposes is that Davis is better in press and he makes a lot of positive plays without necessarily having to force turnovers to do it. He emerged into a shutdown-type corner last season and that is the one thing that Rex is desperately in need of. I think with the way this franchise is structuring everything around Rexism you have to take your shot on a CB with that high of a ceiling. rather have him than use our first on a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Verner is a very good player. The difference between the two for our purposes is that Davis is better in press and he makes a lot of positive plays without necessarily having to force turnovers to do it. He emerged into a shutdown-type corner last season and that is the one thing that Rex is desperately in need of. I think with the way this franchise is structuring everything around Rexism you have to take your shot on a CB with that high of a ceiling. From what I heard, he had a very inconsistent 2013 and not near a shutdown type corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 From what I heard, he had a very inconsistent 2013 and not near a shutdown type corner. He can be, sure. Despite that, he still graded out on PFF as third amongst CBs on the season, and second in raw pass coverage. The reason that's relevant for the purposes of the Jets is because Indy plays man on practically every single down, which means that he can sustain the demands that Rex places on his corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Better check with his grandma 1st, see if she is ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Davis is a better natural player and IMO the best press corner on the market this year, which is why I'd prefer him. However, he's a bit of a jackoff and because of that can be inconsistent at times. Until 4pm when Tampa cuts Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 FWIW, Davis is the Colts #1 priority. http://www.stampedeblue.com/2014/3/10/5493256/report-vontae-davis-likely-to-leave-colts we are less than 24 hours away from the new league year starting, thus bringing about the start of free agency, there is nothing that Colts fans are paying attention to more than the status of cornerback Vontae Davis, who has yet to re-sign with the Colts. Davis was the team's clear-cut number one priority this offseason, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Until 4pm when Tampa cuts Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 If you are going to "go hard" then "GO HARD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 nothing is a downgrade from last year's Cromartie There was a time when our starting CBs where Otis Smith and Marcvs Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Verner made a lot of fantastic plays last season, but if you watch that highlight clip (posted in one of these threads), his turnovers are the result of some serious gambling, and many are made at the last 10th of a second. Don't get me wrong, they're impressive to watch...but a lot of those plays could just as easily gone the other way for another 20 yards. Davis will give up the occasional big play, but he's present in run-support (something Verner doesn't grade well on) and he's fantastic jamming receivers at the line. Ideally, we have two outside men that can contain their WR's routes long enough for our pass rush to affect the play. Davis is the better play for this team, provided he remains a professional. Rumors of him showing up to practice with hangovers are what ultimately got him traded out of Miami. He's cleaned up his act in Indianapolis, but lets face it, Indy is nothing like South Beach or NYC. If he gets paid, and reverts back into party-boy-central signing him could turn out to be a big mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 looks like he might be as dumb as a box of rocks. but as long as he is not a QB who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 rex can coach him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 looks like he might be as dumb as a box of rocks. but as long as he is not a QB who cares He scored a 33 on the Wonderlic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 He can be, sure. Despite that, he still graded out on PFF as third amongst CBs on the season, and second in raw pass coverage. The reason that's relevant for the purposes of the Jets is because Indy plays man on practically every single down, which means that he can sustain the demands that Rex places on his corners. Yes, he fits in Rex' system perfectly. I wanted this move all along so I hope we get him signed for a good 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 He scored a 33 on the Wonderlic. Guess he was stunned at the news, or stoned ether way I dont care as long as he can cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 There was a time when our starting CBs where Otis Smith and Marcvs Coleman. Cromartie was a major suck last year. I believe, and I emphasize believe, that the guy has an arthritic hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Verner made a lot of fantastic plays last season, but if you watch that highlight clip (posted in one of these threads), his turnovers are the result of some serious gambling, and many are made at the last 10th of a second. Don't get me wrong, they're impressive to watch...but a lot of those plays could just as easily gone the other way for another 20 yards. Davis will give up the occasional big play, but he's present in run-support (something Verner doesn't grade well on) and he's fantastic jamming receivers at the line. Ideally, we have two outside men that can contain their WR's routes long enough for our pass rush to affect the play. Davis is the better play for this team, provided he remains a professional. Rumors of him showing up to practice with hangovers are what ultimately got him traded out of Miami. He's cleaned up his act in Indianapolis, but lets face it, Indy is nothing like South Beach or NYC. If he gets paid, and reverts back into party-boy-central signing him could turn out to be a big mistake. Davis sounds like he might be cheaper. Plus he is a man guy. They never get the INTs a zone guy does. Rex likes man guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Rex likes man guys So do the mods here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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