deucebag Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Bevell was the OC at Minnesota when Harvin had his best years, then Harvin follows Bevell to Seattle - now Harvin is a Jet - is Bevell soon to follow? Also note Holmgren-Reid-Childress-Mornhinweg-Bevell - all part of the same coaching tree - so if Bevell becomes the Jets HC, does Marty stay as OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Last week Harvin refused to go in the game when Bevell asked him to so no and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Last week Harvin refused to go in the game when Bevell asked him to so no and no. Then what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 interesting marty connection but no, if bevell is HC he will call the plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Then what happened? Idzik figured it was finally time to give Rex some help and took Seattle to the woodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 At the very least, this trade looks like it has spawned a whole new slew of Idzik conspiracy theories. And for that I say, thank you Percy Harvin. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Plus Bevell and Harvin's kids go to the same school and have the same nanny. How do i know that ? I don't. But just throwing it out there to add some much needed weight to the premise of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Idzik figured it was finally time to give Rex some help and took Seattle to the woodshed. So now that Rex has adequate "help," would it meet with your approval to fire him after what will be yet another losing season, or should we extend him anyway (not will he be fired, but should he be)? You never answered that question the last time I posed it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 At the very least, this trade looks like it has spawned a whole new slew of Idzik conspiracy theories. And for that I say, thank you Percy Harvin. Thank you. The Harvin trade is evidence that Idzik loves Rex and evidence that Idzik is sabotaging Rex. #JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 So now that Rex has adequate "help," would it meet with your approval to fire him after what will be yet another losing season, or should we extend him anyway (not will he be fired, but should he be)? You never answered that question the last time I posed it to you. At this point if they have a losing season I could understand why he would be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 At this point if they have a losing season I could understand why he would be fired. So you still can't bring yourself to say that he should be fired, just that you'd understand the rationale for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 So you still can't bring yourself to say that he should be fired, just that you'd understand the rationale for it... 6 wins or less is should territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 6 wins or less is should territory. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 what do Bevell, Holmgren, Morningwhig, and Harvin have in common? None will be Jets next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think plays that stand out to me is that even though the D has different players over the years, Ryan has this D installed for 6 years and they have to call timeouts like in the Pats game last Thursday when they weren't lined up correctly and there was confusion. We keep that timeout and Geno probably gets 8 more yards for a FG that Folk more than likely makes. That is not the 1st time I have seen these wasted timeouts cost us games and that is where I see Ryan is a bad in game coach which when most games are close will cause us to never be a consistent team. Can we end up with a worse coach than Ryan, certainly yes. But, not taking a chance to get a better one after this season would be a bad idea. I felt keeping him and the coaching staff for this season to keep continuity may be good, but we see it has not helped at all and we have taken major steps back. Best to get another head coach even though we need to learn new systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Bevell was the OC at Minnesota when Harvin had his best years, then Harvin follows Bevell to Seattle - now Harvin is a Jet - is Bevell soon to follow? Also note Holmgren-Reid-Childress-Mornhinweg-Bevell - all part of the same coaching tree - so if Bevell becomes the Jets HC, does Marty stay as OC? Make too much sense under Woody's leadership. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think plays that stand out to me is that even though the D has different players over the years, Ryan has this D installed for 6 years and they have to call timeouts like in the Pats game last Thursday when they weren't lined up correctly and there was confusion. We keep that timeout and Geno probably gets 8 more yards for a FG that Folk more than likely makes. That is not the 1st time I have seen these wasted timeouts cost us games and that is where I see Ryan is a bad in game coach which when most games are close will cause us to never be a consistent team. Can we end up with a worse coach than Ryan, certainly yes. But, not taking a chance to get a better one after this season would be a bad idea. I felt keeping him and the coaching staff for this season to keep continuity may be good, but we see it has not helped at all and we have taken major steps back. Best to get another head coach even though we need to learn new systems. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think plays that stand out to me is that even though the D has different players over the years, Ryan has this D installed for 6 years and they have to call timeouts like in the Pats game last Thursday when they weren't lined up correctly and there was confusion. We keep that timeout and Geno probably gets 8 more yards for a FG that Folk more than likely makes. That is not the 1st time I have seen these wasted timeouts cost us games and that is where I see Ryan is a bad in game coach which when most games are close will cause us to never be a consistent team. Can we end up with a worse coach than Ryan, certainly yes. But, not taking a chance to get a better one after this season would be a bad idea. I felt keeping him and the coaching staff for this season to keep continuity may be good, but we see it has not helped at all and we have taken major steps back. Best to get another head coach even though we need to learn new systems. It's so much worse in person. I honestly think we'd take a timeout on every single play if we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Good post. Meh... they have a rookie, AA playing out of position, and a bunch of castoffs in the backfield. Ryans defense has been around for 6 years but half the D has been playing it for 6 weeks. We can play the what if game about that timeout but fact of the matter is it worked. Giving up a first down and eventual touchdown and the Jets may never have gotten to the point where they had a chance to tie. They did stop them right after the TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 In a way, leaving ourselves with one timeout with 20 minutes left in regulation was a stroke of genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 In a way, leaving ourselves with one timeout with 20 minutes left in regulation was a stroke of genius. Perhaps not but the defense that was dialed up to stop them on that crucial 3rd down may have been. Glad Harris had the wherewithal to notice the neophytes were out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 When you really think about it, we should call a timeout before every defensive play to really think about what's fhe haps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Perhaps not but the defense that was dialed up to stop them on that crucial 3rd down may have been. Glad Harris had the wherewithal to notice the neophytes were out of position. Agreed. Taking the TO before the FG attempt was a good call too, since we made it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 It's so much worse in person. I honestly think we'd take a timeout on every single play if we could. Sequence of my mind on a 4th down play: Geno looks like he's throwing-> oh God hope it's not a sack Ball leaves geno's hand -> oh God I hope it's not a pick Ball hits WR's hands -> i hope he doesn't drop it. WR catches the ball -> i hope he doesn't stop just short of the first down marker WR crosses the marker -> please don't fumble it Ball pops loose but he's down by contact -> please no flags and i hope a jet doesn't punch somebody and gets ejected. No flag but Ref signals no play -> wait wtf? I have literally no idea what is happening. Ref signals that the jets have taken their 2nd timeout in the 2nd half in the 3rd quarter before the play occured -> What. The. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Agreed. Taking the TO before the FG attempt was a good call too, since we made it And if we didn't call the time out and missed it???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 And if we didn't call the time out and missed it???????? We can play the what if game about that timeout but fact of the matter is it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 We can play the what if game about that timeout but fact of the matter is it worked. If the axis forces called time out at the Battle of the Bulge, we'd all be eating wiener schnitzel at baseball games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Perhaps not but the defense that was dialed up to stop them on that crucial 3rd down may have been. Glad Harris had the wherewithal to notice the neophytes were out of position. Oh, well as long as you're glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I would like to know what Bevell will do to transform this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I would like to know what Bevell will do to transform this team? What won't he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 What won't he do? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 At the very least, this trade looks like it has spawned a whole new slew of Idzik conspiracy theories. And for that I say, thank you Percy Harvin. Thank you. LOL! If Idzik did half the stuff he was accused of, he would get about 2 hours sleep a night. He sounds like a busy man with all these cover ups and conspiracy theories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 If the axis forces called time out at the Battle of the Bulge, we'd all be eating wiener schnitzel at baseball games Ironically, under that scenario, things stay pretty much the same for you either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 If the axis forces called time out at the Battle of the Bulge, we'd all be eating wiener schnitzel at baseball games Too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ironically, under that scenario, things stay pretty much the same for you either way. Oh snap, Phil's bringin the heat tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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