RoadFan Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I actually thought he looked good today, was very accurate. The reason I would take him off the draft board entirely is because he is a monumental POS. Screaming at his head coach with everyone watching? Kid is bad news. Hell no to Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadcurtis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I wouldn't of taken him last year either. His receivers and line made him. He's garage. He's not garbage or a garage. He'd be an immediate upgrade over Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I actually thought he looked good today, was very accurate. The reason I would take him off the draft board entirely is because he is a monumental POS. Screaming at his head coach with everyone watching? Kid id bad news. Hell no to Winston. I agree with you. I liked his game for the most part but it looks like he can't handle adversity from an emotional perspective and that scares me. If the ny media and fans get on him he might have a Vince young like collapse and quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Only Jets fans wouldn't want a guy who went 26-1 in college proven winner + national champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's not garbage or a garage. He'd be an immediate upgrade over Geno. LOL @ making NYM look like a NYD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I wouldn't of taken him last year either. His receivers and line made him. He's garage. 2 car or 3 car?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Wayne Brady. That's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's garage. HE IS NOT A GARAGE jesus, some of you don't know a carhole from a future pro bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Other than the fumble and his temper tantrum he was money. His team failed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 73 yard punt. Granted it had the bounce but WOW! Bama punter and noles kicker are weapons in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 One game shouldn't alter your opinion of Winston. I wouldn't want to draft him because I have never seen a bad character college athlete become a model citizen and good pro once he became a millionaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Only Jets fans wouldn't want a guy who went 26-1 in college proven winner + national champion So was Tim Tebow. You have to be more than a proven winner in college to be an NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 HE IS NOT A GARAGE jesus, some of you don't know a carhole from a future pro bowler. Go away. Adults are talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 2 car or 3 car?? I'm blaming the whisky lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's not garbage or a garage. He'd be an immediate upgrade over Geno. He might be the only one worse then Geno. He's Geno and Manziel combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Wayne Brady. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 One game shouldn't alter your opinion of Winston. I wouldn't want to draft him because I have never seen a bad character college athlete become a model citizen and good player once he became a millionaire. This, generally. One game would not sway me one way or the other. But I question his character and maturity and leadership now. How much worse will it be with a few million in his pocket and a New York City address? I still like the mid-round kid, Sean Mannion, who should (supposedly) be available in the thrid/fourth round range. 6'5", 220, pro-style pocket passer. Needs some coaching, yes, but he has the brains, the maturity, and the talent. Just need a Pro Coach to polish him, and to sit and learn as a Pro a year or two. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737484/sean-mannion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3b64WaqL-Y Low investment, low risk, in a year where QB does not seem stong, don;t sell the farm for the top guy, take the mid-rounder, sit him a year, see if he has what it takes. Start a Veteran Journeyman in 2015. 2016, the kid either starts, or you draft another QB. Rinse repeat. Get the WR in Round 1. A Roadgrader Guard in Round 2. Another Lineman in Round 3. And Mannion in Round 4. Sign a JAG-VET like McCoy (or whatever JAG boats your float tbh) for 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 So was Tim Tebow. You have to be more than a proven winner in college to be an NFL QB. You've got that right. Have any of these QBs who have come from these dominant programs been any good? Ken Dorsey sucked, the USC guys sucked, Tebow sucked. I'm thinking Winston will be hot garbage, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensince69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He has all the tools but so did Demarcus Russel. Is the the first one to practice and the last to leave? His ego is the size of mt everest. The only reason the did not lose this year is the refs gave them several games. He does not think sometimes (pushing the ref out of the way in the bc game) and often tries to squeeze the ball in to tight windows. In the pro's those will ints. I drool over his skills but just have a bad feeling in my belly about him. I would rather get a serviceable vet and a kid to develop. Talk the kid from penn state into coming out and take him in the 2nd round, let him st 2 years and have something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadcurtis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He has all the tools but so did Demarcus Russel. Is the the first one to practice and the last to leave? His ego is the size of mt everest. The only reason the did not lose this year is the refs gave them several games. He does not think sometimes (pushing the ref out of the way in the bc game) and often tries to squeeze the ball in to tight windows. In the pro's those will ints. I drool over his skills but just have a bad feeling in my belly about him. I would rather get a serviceable vet and a kid to develop. Talk the kid from penn state into coming out and take him in the 2nd round, let him st 2 years and have something special. Hackenberg is only a sophomore. Why not just draft Winston and have him sit for a season? Don't most quarterbacks have huge egos? Aren't you looking for the confident, alpha male trait in a quarterback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 One game shouldn't alter your opinion of Winston. I wouldn't want to draft him because I have never seen a bad character college athlete become a model citizen and good pro once he became a millionaire. End thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadcurtis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Randy Moss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Randy Moss? He's probably better then Winston but I don't want him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Randy Moss?We could consider Moss, but he was a model citizen at Marshall after his initial problems at FSU, so the rehabilitation had already happened before he went to NFL. That said, he was still an ahole in NFL which prevented him from reaching his full potential in being an all time great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We could consider Moss, but he was a model citizen at Marshall after his initial problems at FSU, so the rehabilitation had already happened before he went to NFL. That said, he was still an ahole in NFL which prevented him from reaching his full potential in being an all time great. I dont see how Randy Moss isnt an all time great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 @angdicarlowndu: on losing his first game, Jameis Winston: "It hurts badder than anything you can imagine." Is that how you spell badder? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Worse kid. Worse. Not Badderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 too many Jameis haters here he'll grow into the next Big Ben if he goes to a good team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetbeggar Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This, generally. One game would not sway me one way or the other. But I question his character and maturity and leadership now. How much worse will it be with a few million in his pocket and a New York City address? This is EXACTLY why I have reservations about drafting him. Don't discount how much of an effect the city of New York can have on a guy with character issues and money to burn. I have a feeling him playing in the New York City Metropolitan Area is BAD NEWS not only for the Jets franchise, but for the kid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 all things considered Jameis made a lot more NFL type throws today than Mariotta did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 he'll grow into the next Big Ben if he goes to a good team In the QB way or the assaults women way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 They both have enough question marks that I would rather pass on them in favor of a kep position player at #6. Pick up a QB in 3rd or 4th and let Geno play it out while the new back up watches and learns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 They both have enough question marks that I would rather pass on them in favor of a kep position player at #6. Pick up a QB in 3rd or 4th and let Geno play it out while the new back up watches and learns. I don't care if they beg Boomer Esiason to come out of retirement, there is no way they can run Geno out there as the starter and expect people to buy tickets and show up to games. It's disengenuous and bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 That was a terrible merge. I don't get why some of you still want Winston even after saying he sucks but he's better then Geno. If he sucks draft someone else at another position that you think will be a good player. Drafting a sh*tty QB this year because Geno sucks and not taking someone who might be good is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You've got that right. Have any of these QBs who have come from these dominant programs been any good? Ken Dorsey sucked, the USC guys sucked, Tebow sucked. I'm thinking Winston will be hot garbage, too. That would be some interesting research. I may have to dig into that. Who was the last good NFL QB from one of the "crown jewel" College program? The consensus "best QBs" in the NFL are from Tennessee, Michigsn(but Brady sucked at Michigan) Cal, Purdue, Stanford, NC State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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