TheMagicRat Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 @angdicarlowndu: on losing his first game, Jameis Winston: "It hurts badder than anything you can imagine." Is that how you spell badder? lol The sad thing is I think Winston's GPA is around a 3.8. Glad to see his education is making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 all things considered Jameis made a lot more NFL type throws today than Mariotta did. NFL type as in geno smith like maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 one bad game now he's a bum lol Why do people keep saying he had a bad game? He looked quite good to me throwing the ball and running a pro-style offense. The blowout was mostly due to his teammates coughing up the ball. He's a bum b/c of all the red flags... including being caught on video screaming at his head coach for the 2nd time in as many months. Douchebag QBs fail in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 forget both of them, plus cooper and have the jets Draft OSU QB; Cardale Jones. he looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Why do people keep saying he had a bad game? He looked quite good to me throwing the ball and running a pro-style offense. The blowout was mostly due to his teammates coughing up the ball. He's a bum b/c of all the red flags... including being caught on video screaming at his head coach for the 2nd time in as many months. Douchebag QBs fail in the NFL. Some team is gonna talk themselves into taking Winston after he falls through the draft. Figure he'll pout in he green room on draft day. SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 In the QB way or the assaults women way? may i ask when did you stop beating your wife? #davidstern #justajoke #loadedQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Why do people keep saying he had a bad game? He looked quite good to me throwing the ball and running a pro-style offense. The blowout was mostly due to his teammates coughing up the ball. He's a bum b/c of all the red flags... including being caught on video screaming at his head coach for the 2nd time in as many months. Douchebag QBs fail in the NFL. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the racists got what they wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I dont see how Randy Moss isnt an all time great. The only WR in history better than him is Rice, and he's arguably the greatest playmaker in league history. Moss was a boss. Basically he was Pedro Martinez/Sandy Koufax from 1998-2003. After that he came back to remind everyone who he was by putting up 47 TDs with the Pats from '07-'09 (including 23 in '07)....*Even in the years nobody liked/care for Moss and his nonsense* he put up 32 TDs, including 24 from '04-'06 (21 between '04-'05). At his best, he was the most dominant guy at any position in the NFL during my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This, generally. One game would not sway me one way or the other. But I question his character and maturity and leadership now. How much worse will it be with a few million in his pocket and a New York City address? I still like the mid-round kid, Sean Mannion, who should (supposedly) be available in the thrid/fourth round range. 6'5", 220, pro-style pocket passer. Needs some coaching, yes, but he has the brains, the maturity, and the talent. Just need a Pro Coach to polish him, and to sit and learn as a Pro a year or two. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737484/sean-mannion Low investment, low risk, in a year where QB does not seem stong, don;t sell the farm for the top guy, take the mid-rounder, sit him a year, see if he has what it takes. Start a Veteran Journeyman in 2015. 2016, the kid either starts, or you draft another QB. Rinse repeat. Get the WR in Round 1. A Roadgrader Guard in Round 2. Another Lineman in Round 3. And Mannion in Round 4. Sign a JAG-VET like McCoy (or whatever JAG boats your float tbh) for 2015. Mannion is absolutely horrible. His main problem is his brains so I have no idea where you came up with the analysis you did. If they don't like Winston then they might as well start Geno, sign one of the garbage fa's and pray. As a fan, I'll be hoping that we suck enough to draft Hackenberg or Connor Cook next year. All these stupid immaturity and leadership qualities being discussed and yet Jameis was the only FSU player to stay out and congratulate the Ducks on the victory. The same teammates that didn't bother to show up tonight wanted no part of it. This so called "immature" QB did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Mannion is absolutely horrible. His main problem is his brains so I have no idea where you came up with the analysis you did. If they don't like Winston then they might as well start Geno, sign one of the garbage backup fa's and pray. As a fan, I'll be hoping that we suck enough to draft Hackenberg or Connor Cook next year. For all these stupid immaturity and leadership qualities this game apparently showed you, Jameis was the only FSU player to stay out and congratulate the Ducks on the victory. The same teammates that didn't bother to show up tonight wanted no part of it. This so called "immature" QB did though. At least you spelled garbage right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 At least you spelled garbage right. LOL. At least he's got that going for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 LOL. At least he's got that going for him. Brilliant rebuttal. If you think there is one GM in the NFL in charge of a team with absolutely no QB who would pass on Jameis Winston for Sean f*cking Mannion, then you are an absolute moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 too many Jameis haters here he'll grow into the next Big Ben if he goes to a good team A Rapist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This kid IS Jamarcus Russell, if I'm the Jets I'm taking Cooper if he's there. No was do we touch this POS @6. Trade down or take him later like round 2, or trade back into the late first round and take him. You imagine the smack talk, NFL linemen are going to drive this kid crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My answer to Winston http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBEUx6EKnqM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's not garbage or a garage. He'd be an immediate upgrade over Geno. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the racists got what they wanted Racists ? Sorry but Winston has some talent but that will not be enough to stop the Idiot inside him that will make him a terrible PRO ....He's not even in the same league as Mariota its not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the racists got what they wanted what a dumb post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The first thing i thought about when i saw Winston with that buttfumblesque spin move and fumble was....Jet. but seriously, i thought both QB's were less accurate then i thought they would be. Winston especially AGAIN was better in the second half. I think both guys will need some time to develop at the next level, not sure if i take one of them or take an WR/OT and let Geno have another shot at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the racists got what they wanted Leave it to the white kid upstate to play the race card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Brilliant rebuttal. If you think there is one GM in the NFL in charge of a team with absolutely no QB who would pass on Jameis Winston for Sean f*cking Mannion, then you are an absolute moron. You got it wrong. I don't want either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Cook and Petty made themselves lots of $ last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensince69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Hackenberg is only a sophomore. Why not just draft Winston and have him sit for a season? Don't most quarterbacks have huge egos? Aren't you looking for the confident, alpha male trait in a quarterback? Winston is a soph too. I don't think WInston would sit, he would demand to play and be a huge distraction, And to those who are calling Racist Guess I should give my Sheldon jersey back? If I think a guy has issues its because he has issues not because he is black. If I could get Russel Wilson right now sign me up. Give me a leader, naturally gifted athlete who is a team player over a self centered ego maniac any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 I dont see how Randy Moss isnt an all time great. The only WR in history better than him is Rice, and he's arguably the greatest playmaker in league history. Moss was a boss. Basically he was Pedro Martinez/Sandy Koufax from 1998-2003. After that he came back to remind everyone who he was by putting up 47 TDs with the Pats from '07-'09 (including 23 in '07)....*Even in the years nobody liked/care for Moss and his nonsense* he put up 32 TDs, including 24 from '04-'06 (21 between '04-'05). At his best, he was the most dominant guy at any position in the NFL during my lifetime. Neither Rice nor Moss were drafted in the top 15. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I have to say, last nights game answered more questions for me about Mariotta than Winston. Mariotta is a GREAT college QB, but will not be good in the NFL. We saw how inaccurate he is & the plays that are run for him will not work in the NFL. Every year we seem to have these questions about these spread offense QBs and not one has made it in the NFL. What makes Mariotta different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 they might as well start Geno, sign one of the garbage fa's and pray. As a fan, I'll be hoping that we suck enough to draft Hackenberg or Connor Cook next year. All these stupid immaturity and leadership qualities being discussed and yet Jameis was the only FSU player to stay out and congratulate the Ducks on the victory. The same teammates that didn't bother to show up tonight wanted no part of it. This so called "immature" QB did though. The loss isn't on Winston he actually played well. 3 fumbles by his running backs and wide receivers and a dropped pass that went into a DB's hands for a pick in the 3rd quarter turned the game around completely. I still think Winston doesn't fall to 6 if he declares for the draft which I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I have to say, last nights game answered more questions for me about Mariotta than Winston. Mariotta is a GREAT college QB, but will not be good in the NFL. We saw how inaccurate he is & the plays that are run for him will not work in the NFL. Every year we seem to have these questions about these spread offense QBs and not one has made it in the NFL. What makes Mariotta different? Mariota has to be in a particular system in order to be successful in the nfl. If he plays in a conventional NFL offensive package and used as a drop back qb he's going to be Geno part 2. Everything does are tag passes and screens. One of the few teams last night he had actually go through progressions he threw a pick. Maybe Tampa picks him and hires someone who runs the Chip Kelly offense - if that happens sure he'll be a pro bowler in the NFL but if runs a typical NFL offense he's screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Last night only reinforced my view that we should just wait on trying to draft the franchise... take a developmental guy, scrounge for a veteran and draft WRs/Oline/Secondary to shore the team up. Mariota looks like a gimmick half the time, and Winston will never be 4 quarters great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Last night only reinforced my view that we should just wait on trying to draft the franchise... take a developmental guy, scrounge for a veteran and draft WRs/Oline/Secondary to shore the team up. Mariota looks like a gimmick half the time, and Winston will never be 4 quarters great. At 6 we didn't have a shot at either one of them anyway. Trade a 3rd to Tampa for Mike Glennon and draft a developmental guy in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A Rapist with 2 rings if Jameis falls to 6, take him, do not pass Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Last night only reinforced my view that we should just wait on trying to draft the franchise. wait? for what? Doomsday? The team can't get much worse. There's no real "set back" from 4-12. They have 40+ mil in cap space. They can take a top QB every year for the next 3 years it wouldn't matter. Take a swing who knows maybe they'll hit. Can't hit a home run if the bat never leaves your shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 wait? for what? Doomsday? The team can't get much worse. There's no real "set back" from 4-12. They have 40+ mil in cap space. They can take a top QB every year for the next 3 years it wouldn't matter. Take a swing who knows maybe they'll hit. Can't hit a home run if the bat never leaves your shoulder. What a loser mentality. Spoken like a true arm chair general manager. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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