Chip Kelly Staying or Going?

[C Mart]

There is no way in hell that the 49ers are letting Rex leave without a 10 year contract.

@JasonLaCanfora: Heard Vic Fangio's interview with the 49ers, who already know him quite well, lasted in excess of 6hrs and was very impressive. Interesting

49ers won't get to their first question for Rex in that time.

[DRJETS]

This thread ran its course too.  C. Kelly elevated to GM/coach

 

Eagles shake up front office
 
PHILADELPHIA -- The Eagles lit a fire Wednesday with the announcement that vice president of player personnel Tom Gamble was gone. They tried to extinguish that fire Friday night.
Eagles owner Jeff Lurie announced that coach Chip Kelly will oversee player personnel matters and that Howie Roseman has been promoted from general manager to executive vice president of football operations. Kelly also will hire a new executive to replace Gamble.
 
According to the Eagles' news release, Roseman will continue "directing contract negotiations, salary cap management and NFL strategic matters, while overseeing the team's medical staff, equipment staff and more."
Player personnel matters, the very heart of being a general manager, were not included in the list of Roseman's duties.
Lurie said the moves resulted from meeting with Kelly, Roseman and club president Don Smolenski.
"During those lengthy meetings this week we discussed a comprehensive approach on how to seamlessly integrate the personnel and coaching departments in order to maximize every facet of the process," he said in a statement.
Under the previous structure, Roseman was charged with finding players who fit Kelly's vision. Gamble's role was as a buffer between the two, although it had become clear that he leaned toward Kelly's side.
It is always tough to evaluate offseason moves, especially the draft, until a few years have gone by. But the 2014 Eagles offseason does not look promising.
First-round pick Marcus Smith, a linebacker out of Louisville, barely got on the field for the NFL's 26th-ranked defense. Second-round pick Jordan Matthews, a wide receiver out of  Vanderbilt, had a good rookie season. Third-round WR Josh Huff, who played for Kelly at Oregon, had a self-described disappointing season.
Other than that, only seventh-round pick Beau Allen, a defensive tackle, made a significant impact.
In free agency, the Eagles landed backup quarterback Mark Sanchez, safety Malcolm Jenkins, cornerback Nolan Carroll, and special teamers Chris Maragos and Bryan Braman. Running backDarren Sproles was obtained in a trade with New Orleans.
"You have heard me say many times that I want strong leaders who feel free to express their opinions," Lurie said. "And that is what happened here. Chip will now lead this process going forward with the continued full support of Howie, Don and myself.
"Chip will not be doing this work by himself, obviously. He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly integrated approach."
After Sunday's season-ending win against the New York Giants, Lurie met with reporters in the Eagles' locker room. He was asked whether Roseman would continue as general manager. Lurie laughed at the question.
"Is that a question?" Lurie asked. "Yes."
On Friday, Lurie addressed that comment.
"When I said -- after the Giants game -- that Howie was returning as general manager next season, I meant that," he said. "But after carefully listening and reflecting on the lengthy discussions that I had with our senior team, I changed my mind.
"I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats -- quite the contrary, he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work. We look forward to seeing it come to life over time."
Lurie said Roseman also received an unspecified contract extension as part of this new arrangement.

(espn)

[slats]

Not really, it makes you wonder why Tx doesn't realize any D gives up points when you have the worst QB in football turning the ball over and going 3 and out every other drive

  

Yup. Tx likes to talk about Rex's IQ, but he doesn't seem to realize that pick sixes count against the defense's points given up. Or that short fields are are a huge factor when your QB leads the league in turnovers practically every year. The real complaint about Rex's defenses is the failure to get a turnover. He can get a stop.

1. I'm dead inside.

2. I would have liked to see what Idzik had planned for this offseason. IMO, he would have had Quinn or Bevell signed already.

No doubt. The man is clueless, he'd've had no choice but to run back to his old team and sign someone they thought was good.

[T0mShane]

No doubt. The man is clueless, he'd've had no choice but to run back to his old team and sign someone they thought was good.

Quinn has five interviews. Bevell, at last count, has four. Rex has two, and the San Fran one is due diligence.

[slats]

Quinn has five interviews. Bevell, at last count, has four. Rex has two, and the San Fran one is due diligence.

I recognize that every one of your remaining brain cells connects to the name Rex Ryan, but it's obvious that everyone is getting their interviews in with coaches who will potentially be off limits for a while soon, while a guy like Rex has an open calendar right now.

[T0mShane]

Rex has an open calendar right now.

Killing me softly with his song

Telling my whole life with his words

Killing me softly with his song

[rillo]

No way he leaves

[32EBoozer]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12113039/philadelphia-eagles-coach-chip-kelly-assumes-oversight-team-player-personnel-department

 

The Eagles lit a fire Wednesday with the announcement that vice president of player personnel Tom Gamble was gone. They tried to extinguish that fire Friday night.

Eagles owner Jeff Lurie announced that coach Chip Kelly will oversee player personnel matters and that Howie Roseman has been promoted from general manager to executive vice president of football operations. Kelly also will hire a new executive to replace Gamble.

 

“

I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats -- quite the contrary, he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work.

”

- Eagles owner Jeff Lurie

 

 

According to the Eagles' news release, Roseman will continue "directing contract negotiations, salary cap management and NFL strategic matters, while overseeing the team's medical staff, equipment staff and more."

Player personnel matters, the very heart of being a general manager, were not included in the list of Roseman's duties.

Lurie said the moves resulted from meeting with Kelly, Roseman and club president Don Smolenski.

"During those lengthy meetings this week we discussed a comprehensive approach on how to seamlessly integrate the personnel and coaching departments in order to maximize every facet of the process," he said in a statement.

Under the previous structure, Roseman was charged with finding players who fit Kelly's vision. Gamble's role was as a buffer between the two, although it had become clear that he leaned toward Kelly's side.

It is always tough to evaluate offseason moves, especially the draft, until a few years have gone by. But the 2014 Eagles offseason does not look promising.

First-round pick Marcus Smith, a linebacker out of Louisville, barely got on the field for the NFL's 26th-ranked defense. Second-round pick Jordan Matthews, a wide receiver out of  Vanderbilt, had a good rookie season. Third-round WR Josh Huff, who played for Kelly at Oregon, had a self-described disappointing season.

Other than that, only seventh-round pick Beau Allen, a defensive tackle, made a significant impact.

In free agency, the Eagles landed backup quarterback Mark Sanchez, safety Malcolm Jenkins, cornerback Nolan Carroll, and special teamers Chris Maragos and Bryan Braman. Running back Darren Sproles was obtained in a trade with New Orleans.

 

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Phil Sears/USA TODAY SportsChip Kelly will hire a new executive to replace Tom Gamble, the team's former vice president of player personnel.

 

"You have heard me say many times that I want strong leaders who feel free to express their opinions," Lurie said. "And that is what happened here. Chip will now lead this process going forward with the continued full support of Howie, Don and myself.

"Chip will not be doing this work by himself, obviously. He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly integrated approach."

After Sunday's season-ending win against the New York Giants, Lurie met with reporters in the Eagles' locker room. He was asked whether Roseman would continue as general manager. Lurie laughed at the question.

"Is that a question?" Lurie asked. "Yes."

On Friday, Lurie addressed that comment.

"When I said -- after the Giants game -- that Howie was returning as general manager next season, I meant that," he said. "But after carefully listening and reflecting on the lengthy discussions that I had with our senior team, I changed my mind.

"I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats -- quite the contrary, he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work. We look forward to seeing it come to life over time."

When Kelly left Oregon to join the Eagles two years ago, he made it clear he wasn't interested in total control.

"I've heard questions that I want control over this, control over that," Kelly said on Jan. 17, 2013. "That has never been an issue, never is an issue for me. I'm a football coach. I'm not a general manager. I'm not a salary-cap guy. I coach football. I need people who can go out there and say, 'Hey this is what you want. These are the people.' And it's going to be a collaboration. We're all going to be on the same page. I've got no delusions of saying that I want all these different titles. I just want to coach football."

Lurie said Roseman also received an unspecified contract extension as part of this new arrangement.

[32EBoozer]

Kelly is staying.

[Gen X Jet]

Looks like Chip castrated the young buck.

[OuttaSightPF]

Rex's defenses were in the bottom half of the NFL the last 3 years in points all allowed.

Please get over the mirage that Rex is some sort of defensive guru.

Dude, he only had 8 first round draft picks. What did you expect?

[CTM]

Looks like Chip castrated the young buck.

yes, yes he did... Howie Roseman is now T0m Shane

[Jet9]

Eh. He's 39 and the VP of Football Operations for an NFL team. He made out alright.

[CTM]

Eh. He's 39 and the VP of Football Operations for an NFL team. He made out alright.

yes and a few days ago he was 39 and a GM

[Jet9]

yes and a few days ago he was 39 and a GM

He got a promotion dude.

[CTM]

He got a promotion dude.

no he didn't lol

[Jet9]

no he didn't lol

K

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/1/2/7483051/eagles-promote-howie-roseman-chip-kelly-player-personnel-lurie

Eagles press release:

Howie Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive Vice President of Football Operations and will continue directing contract negotiations, salary cap management, and NFL strategic matters, while overseeing the team’s medical staff, equipment staff and more.

[RutgersJetFan]

He got a promotion dude.

 

[BigRy56]

Kelly to the Jets!!!!

[j4jets]

How many teams with a winning record has Chip Kelly defeated in 2 yrs? One. Thanksgiving day 2014. This Eagles team was as loaded as it could be.

[Scott Dierking]

  

Yup. Tx likes to talk about Rex's IQ, but he doesn't seem to realize that pick sixes count against the defense's points given up. Or that short fields are are a huge factor when your QB leads the league in turnovers practically every year. The real complaint about Rex's defenses is the failure to get a turnover. He can get a stop.

 

The Rexophites should also realize then, that if the defense is given such short fields because of that bad offense, the Jet defense does not have to give up as many yards in drives. That helps preserve Rex's dear to hear tdefensive ranking of yards against.

[sg3]

So there you have it

8 games of Buttfumble as a starting QB has pretty much blown a potential super bowl contender to smithereens

[Scott Dierking]

So there you have it

8 games of Buttfumble as a starting QB has pretty much blown a potential super bowl contender to smithereens

Sanchez broke the record for Eagles passing percentage completed by a QB in a season.

[sg3]

Sanchez broke the record for Eagles passing percentage completed by a QB in a season.

And the record for dragging a 6-2 team in contention for Home Field Advantage completely out of the postseason in only 8 short turnover filled games

[Scott Dierking]

And the record for dragging a 6-2 team in contention for Home Field Advantage completely out of the postseason in only 8 short turnover filled games

The Eagles were not really that good. They were fortunate to have their special teams and defense create scores, when those units were not very good in total. 

 

Sanchez actually outplayed Foles.

[detectivekimble]

The Rexophites should also realize then, that if the defense is given such short fields because of that bad offense, the Jet defense does not have to give up as many yards in drives. That helps preserve Rex's dear to hear tdefensive ranking of yards against.

 

I don't think that's the case.  When the offense is so bad, the opposing team's offense ends up having more drives, anyway.

[Jetmech]

So Kelly has his team collapse and he's given a promotion. This is smart thinking....

[TuscanyTile2]

I could easily be wrong but I'm still not sold on Chip Kelley.

Still bummed about not getting DeCosta btw. Was hoping the Jet franchise would finally catch a break (when he didn't immediately turn us down like Saban did).

[Scott Dierking]

I don't think that's the case.  When the offense is so bad, the opposing team's offense ends up having more drives, anyway.

When the Jet offense is so bad, how many points does a team have to put up against Jets? They just play in a shell.

 

Honestly, what abouyt the Rex Ryan defense would you say was "dominating". They had a nice run stop this year, but other than that, what was dominant?

[jack48]

chip kelly as coach, gamble as gm, trade up to get mariotta in the draft. that would be incredible (although theres a better chance i have a one night stand with scarlett johnasen) 

 

not so sure about that, lol

[jack48]

It would be funny if the jets got Kelly and signed top free agent QB familiar with Kelly's system... Mark Sanchez.

I am almost certain Kelly would not touch Sanchez with a 20 foot pole after this year.  Throwing check downs is not Kelly's idea of QBing.  Team was what, 9-3 when Mark took the helm.  Yes the D sucked.  But Kelly expected to win with a sucking defense.

[Scott Dierking]

I am almost certain Kelly would not touch Sanchez with a 20 foot pole after this year.  Throwing check downs is not Kelly's idea of QBing.  Team was what, 9-3 when Mark took the helm.  Yes the D sucked.  But Kelly expected to win with a sucking defense.

 

Sanchez' Y/PA and Y/PC were both ranked 6th in the entire NFL this season.

 

The problem with Sanchez, as it always has been, is the bizarre turnover and forcing the ball in bad situations, along with holding onto the ball in a tackle. If someone can get through his head (it is a maybe) he hs a lot of workable attributes as a QB. His numbers, alone from turnovers (I know HUGE) were actually top tier.

[JiFtheOracle]

So Chip Kelly, who missed the playoffs with Mark Sanchez (Rex was a game from the Super Bowl twice with him) after a 6-2 start and has 2 wins vs teams above .500 teams in his career and has never won a playoff game and who's drafts have been a joke, is now the GM of the Eagles?

[Scott Dierking]

So Chip Kelly, who missed the playoffs with Mark Sanchez (Rex was a game from the Super Bowl twice with him) after a 6-2 start and has 2 wins vs teams above .500 teams in his career and has never won a playoff game and who's drafts have been a joke, is now the GM of the Eagles?

I am not sold on Chip Kelly. The Eagles brass apparently is. The Coach as GM rarely works. 

 

Comparing Kelly to Rex s really not a workable equation. Completely 2 different coaches.

[jack48]

 

Sanchez' Y/PA and Y/PC were both ranked 6th in the entire NFL this season.

 

The problem with Sanchez, as it always has been, is the bizarre turnover and forcing the ball in bad situations, along with holding onto the ball in a tackle. If someone can get through his head (it is a maybe) he hs a lot of workable attributes as a QB. His numbers, alone from turnovers (I know HUGE) were actually top tier.

 

 

I will say that he throws a nice ball.  But that is about it.  He has no discretion at all.