Jet9 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 if the Jets had an under the table deal in place with Dan Quinn they wouldn't be requesting an interview with Sean McDermott or a second interview with Todd Bowles. Right. Because no one in the NFL has ever screwed over anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 What The Pope of NY Sports said today was that Gase and Manning were like bosom buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Right. Because no one in the NFL has ever screwed over anyone else. Correct. Deal or no deal, if the Jets are still scheduling interviews, why the heck wouldn't Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Fair enough but he took over a 1 and 15 team. REX and Herm had pretty good squads. In Rex's case NO QB which of course is not that important.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 In Rex's case NO QB which of course is not that important.. he did have a 1st and 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 That would have more credibility if Peyton didn't firmly establish his choker rep WHILE PLAYING FOR DUNGY. How many of those one and dones came with the great Dungy on the sideline? You know what's funny? Both franchises he coached IMMEDIATELY went to the Super Bowl the year after Dungy left. I wonder if they'll put that tidbit on Tony's HOF plaque. Really? Peyton Manning had that rep before Dungy even got there. Peyton Manning has always been who he is. Jim Mora was the coach before Dungy for 4 years, missed the playoffs twice and the other two times he was 1 and done in the playoffs. Dungy came in, he had 1 and done years, as well as Jim Caldwell...right after that Super Bowl run that they IMMMEDIATELY lost. Atleast Gruden had the opportunity to know the entire Raiders team that he went up against before he proceeded to destroy that Tampa team from the inside afterward. And yes I do know whats funny, Tony Dungy is going to Canton as a coach, and you and some others around here are salty about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 he did have a 1st and 2nd rounder. A rookie and Clemens that Mangini failed to develop?? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Can't win with peyton, demayrius, ware, julius, sanders, welker, Anderson etc .. but now everyone wants him to lead our significantly less talented team? I'd take him, but let's not act like he's a great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Unless his friends are wrong they say the Jets was his top choice.. Woody and NY. Or. Elway and Denver. Why am I not confident????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Woody and NY. Or. Elway and Denver. Why am I not confident????? SOJF eating your insides..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Really? Peyton Manning had that rep before Dungy even got there. Peyton Manning has always been who he is. Jim Mora was the coach before Dungy for 4 years, missed the playoffs twice and the other two times he was 1 and done in the playoffs. Dungy came in, he had 1 and done years, as well as Jim Caldwell...right after that Super Bowl run that they IMMMEDIATELY lost. Atleast Gruden had the opportunity to know the entire Raiders team that he went up against before he proceeded to destroy that Tampa team from the inside afterward. And yes I do know whats funny, Tony Dungy is going to Canton as a coach, and you and some others around here are salty about it. Yep, I am salty about it. Just like I'm salty that Jerome Bettis is going to Canton and that Vince Young is a two time Pro Bowl former Rookie of the Year. Few things in sports piss me off more than when mediocre players and coaches get far more credit than they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yep, I am salty about it. Just like I'm salty that Jerome Bettis is going to Canton and that Vince Young is a two time Pro Bowl former Rookie of the Year. Few things in sports piss me off more than when mediocre players and coaches get far more credit than they deserve. I dont think Bettis makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I dont think Bettis makes it. He will. Too beloved by the media to not get in eventually, and with the rise of RBBCs, his supporters will be able to throw out his place on the all-time rushing list for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 sh*t, we are in trouble. i would think quinn would def choose denver over us, unless the jets are his dream job since he grew up in nj. In trouble? We might be dodging a bullet. Quinn is a pretty mediocre option. We could do worse but we can also do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yikes. They're not giving it to Gase, either. Told all the assistants that they're free to go. Because Gase was never really the offensive coordinator. It looks like they're blowing it up and having the guy who got coffee for morning heading the rebuild project isn't exactly the smartest move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think Fox ends up in Atlanta. I hope Fox ends up here. He's probably the best Head Coaching candidate that is actually available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He will. Too beloved by the media to not get in eventually, and with the rise of RBBCs, his supporters will be able to throw out his place on the all-time rushing list for the foreseeable future. I think Terrell Davis has more of case than he does...and I don't think he deserves it either. Tim Brown I think will get more votes than Bettis too...and he isnt a HOF'er either imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think Terrell Davis has more of case than he does...and I don't think he deserves it either. Tim Brown I think will get more votes than Bettis too...and he isnt a HOF'er either imo. I agree about Davis, but what you have to remember about sportswriters is that they're f*cking morons. I'd actually let Davis in, though. That precedent was set with Sayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yep, I am salty about it. Just like I'm salty that Jerome Bettis is going to Canton and that Vince Young is a two time Pro Bowl former Rookie of the Year. Few things in sports piss me off more than when mediocre players and coaches get far more credit than they deserve. Bettis was a beast and deserves Canton. I'll agree with you 100% with Vince Young, but we both know that the pro bowl hasn't been credible since the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago John Fox declined HC interview with Jets, per NFL source. Hard to imagine turning down one HC chance unless there's real chance for another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I agree about Davis, but what you have to remember about sportswriters is that they're f*cking morons. I'd actually let Davis in, though. That precedent was set with Sayers. Yeah I'd probably like to see TD in too. His stretch of dominance was ridiculous....especially when you take into account the two playoff runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago John Fox declined HC interview with Jets, per NFL source. Hard to imagine turning down one HC chance unless there's real chance for another. Well, we are the worst head coach vacancy out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bettis was a beast and deserves Canton. I'll agree with you 100% with Vince Young, but we both know that the pro bowl hasn't been credible since the 90's. Bettis did not even average 4 YPC for his career. That is pathetic. He was a fatass, not a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bettis did not even average 4 YPC for his career. That is pathetic. He was a fatass, not a beast. 3.9 YPC dog. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Manning couldn't win with all the talent on Denver and you guys want him here?? Fixed It was not Fox throwing up Ducks the end of last year and most of this year was it ? Manning can't make the tough throws anymore like he used too once teams got used to defending the 5 yard pass the Broncos did not fair very well in the playoffs vs real defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bettis did not even average 4 YPC for his career. That is pathetic. He was a fatass, not a beast. The YPC number is below 4 because Bettis was a goal-line back at the end of his career averaging 3.3 per rep. He had a few years in his career where he ypc was in the high 4's. Then there's also the fact that defenses used to always stack 8 in the box against Bettis. Kinda had to happen when scrubs like Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox were your quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Wow, the Broncos cleaned house... they fire the entire coaching staff, including Adam Gase. The Bills prematurely hiring Rex just keeps getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The YPC number is below 4 because Bettis was a goal-line back at the end of his career averaging 3.3 per rep. He had a few years in his career where he ypc was in the high 4's. Then there's also the fact that defenses used to always stack 8 in the box against Bettis. Kinda had to happen when scrubs like Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox were your quarterbacks. Four times in 13 years, he averaged over 4 yards per carry. Good point about the stacked boxes, because it's not like OJ Simpson or Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders or any other HOF RB had to deal with such atrocities and still be expected to average the minimum threshold for effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Four times in 13 years, he averaged over 4 yards per carry. Good point about the stacked boxes, because it's not like OJ Simpson or Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders or any other HOF RB had to deal with such atrocities and still be expected to average the minimum threshold for effectiveness. No one ever said he was better than those guys. But the fact remains Bettis is 6th all time in rushing and has a ring on a team that he was a contributor on. I know you develop a chub for the guy but he is absolutely making the hall of fame and deservedly so and I don't even like the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 No one ever said he was better than those guys. But the fact remains Bettis is 6th all time in rushing and has a ring on a team that he was a contributor on. I know you develop a chub for the guy but he is absolutely making the hall of fame and deservedly so and I don't even like the Steelers. Lol, if not for Mike Vanderjagt catching the yips at the worst possible time, Bettis would have single handedly cost the team that ring. And you don't make a great case for his HOF candidacy with "No one said he was good as other HOF RBs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He got to the super bowl with Jake Delhomme. Well, Superstar just told the Jets to F*** Off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Four times in 13 years, he averaged over 4 yards per carry. Good point about the stacked boxes, because it's not like OJ Simpson or Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders or any other HOF RB had to deal with such atrocities and still be expected to average the minimum threshold for effectiveness. Noticed how you mentioned Bettis and other HOF backs in the same sentence. There's a reason for that bro. You did it yet dont even see it. If he wasnt worth stacking 8 in the box then they wouldnt have done it. You only do that with backs like the ones mentioned above, and he still averaged 1000 yards per season in his career. Dude's a hall of famed and your point with Bettis is actually as bad as your point with Dungy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Lol, if not for Mike Vanderjagt catching the yips at the worst possible time, Bettis would have single handedly cost the team that ring. And you don't make a great case for his HOF candidacy with "No one said he was good as other HOF RBs". "If not for Vanderjagt, if not for Peyton Manning, if not for the Colts defense giving up 3 scores against brady, if not for this, if not for that" I just want you to see what you've been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Noticed how you mentioned Bettis and other HOF backs in the same sentence. There's a reason for that bro. You did it yet dont even see it. If he wasnt worth stacking 8 in the box then they wouldnt have done it. You only do that with backs like the ones mentioned above, and he still averaged 1000 yards per season in his career. Dude's a hall of famed and your point with Bettis is actually as bad as your point with Dungy. Uh, I mentioned him in the same sentence as HOFers because we are debating his merit as a Hall of Famer. Is your argument really that only HOFers get the stacked box treatment? If so, do you want to join me on the road trip for Shonn Greene's induction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Wow, the Broncos cleaned house... they fire the entire coaching staff, including Adam Gase. The Bills prematurely hiring Rex just keeps getting better. Sort of explains why Rex was in such a rush to sign a contract anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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