Jet9 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Dip sh*t is right He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 This means we will have to sign or draft at least 2 LBs with speed long time coming Agree. We need speed LB's. As much as I like the 3-4, I believe if Bowles thinks he's got something in Coples, then we need to move to a 4-3 ask QC to take off about 10 lbs and make his primary function rushing the passer. Can you see a line of Coples, Richardson, Snacks, and Mo. They can also rotate between positions with the exception of Snacks. Take that line and add 2 more speedy LB's 1 via the draft, another via FA alongside D Davis. Sign 2 CB's in FA, and there should be good competition in camp and the makings for a pretty good defense. Now for offense, we need to hope Chip Kelly wants Mariota so we can swoop up a few extra pics. Take the best WR available at 20, then concentrate on O-Line with the next few picks, then BPA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Dip sh*t is right Everyone knows the Jets need to get faster at LB and better at CB. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 No, it means you better sign/draft two very good CB's who can cover one on one. Good QB's eat blitzes alive. Agreed, there's a risk/reward dynamic with blitzing. If you have strong DBs you can take more chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 This is probably the first thing you've ever said that I agree with. Though I agreed earlier, there is a flipside here as well. If we're getting to the QB quicker the DBs won't have to hold their coverage as long, but as stated earlier a good QB and smart receivers could still pick you apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I understand what you're saying but if I can have a QB disregard half of the field because of 1 guy then I prefer that because that will give the defense an advantage. A good QB could still beat you by ignoring one half of the field 95% of the time, but your chances of beating that QB does go up dramatically in that situation as well. Its not like the QB's chances gets better in a situation like that. I understand why a team would want to pay alot of money for such a thing, but I'd rather give that money to a Sherman than a Revis given their age. Interesting, but Revis actually only takes away about 15 ft of the field either way. All you have to do to take him out of the game is send the guy he is covering on fly routes all day. The rest of the field is open for business. I loved Revis as a Jet and by no means am I disagreeing with him being great. But I agree with your notion that he simply is not worth the money. Period. The only guy who should make the kind of money he makes is a QB. That's my thoughts on the Revis debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 That's my thoughts on the Revis debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You do know Brady's completion percentage against blitzes last year was 82.9%? I'm quite sure Rogers, Manning, Brees and Luck were about the same. What are you trying to sell us on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Title should say: Expect Jets to lose - A lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 We going to blitz a lot we better sign 2 cover corners & justin houston on the outside I wonder is this the plan to start free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Gm and coach should be on same page- get the players we need to implement this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It can work two ways, you can blitz alot and hope you have great CB's or you can blitz alot, actually get to the QB, get turnovers and make your CB's who are average look good. If you have a very consistent pass rush, that actually creates sacks and just as important turnovers you can actually protect your CBs' and make them look better than they are. The great QB's that burn the blitz? They are often checking down to a back or TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Title should say: Expect Jets to lose - A lot. Doesn't that go without saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Seriously, do you really think Revis would take a $4MM pay cut to play for the Jets? The more important question is do you think the Pats will pay him $20 million now that they got what they wanted out of him? Belichick's ego probably now thinks that since Revis got burned for a TD in the SB and Butler picked off a pass he will start Butler now and not skip a beat in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You do know Brady's completion percentage against blitzes last year was 82.9%? I'm quite sure Rogers, Manning, Brees and Luck were about the same. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/05/qbs-in-focus-pressure-and-the-blitz/ Here's an excellent breakdown. Brady was good against the blitz but struggled against pressure. Brady's completion percentage against the blitz was actually 58.1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The more important question is do you think the Pats will pay him $20 million now that they got what they wanted out of him? No way in hell the Pats pay Revis $20MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 No way in hell the Pats pay Revis $20MM. you guys have 2 running backs and a free safety to pay. You're right, no way. At the most I see you guys signing Vereen and Revis back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 you guys have 2 running backs and a free safety to pay. You're right, no way. At the most I see you guys signing Vereen and Revis back. Personally, I think the Pats will tag McCourty, sign Vareen (he won't cost that much) and try to work out a 3-year deal with Revis. I put the odds on Revis returning to the Pats about 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Personally, I think the Pats will tag McCourty, sign Vareen (he won't cost that much) and try to work out a 3-year deal with Revis. I put the odds on Revis returning to the Pats about 50/50. Revis is going to want somewhere in the $13-14 million range. He's gonna be 30 on opening day in 2015. Time to start asking when to expect diminishing returns. I think he may be a little disappointed in the FA market. If the Pats let him hit free agency, he is gone though. He's got a ring. Now he's gonna be completely about the money. Someone (Denver, Indy or Dallas) will outbid the Pats just to keep him away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Revis is going to want somewhere in the $13-14 million range. He's gonna be 30 on opening day in 2015. Time to start asking when to expect diminishing returns. I think he may be a little disappointed in the FA market. If the Pats let him hit free agency, he is gone though. He's got a ring. Now he's gonna be completely about the money. Someone (Denver, Indy or Dallas) will outbid the Pats just to keep him away from them. I pretty much agree with that. I think the Pats can get Revis for in the $13-14 million range but it will all come down to what the guaranteed money will be. That could be the deal breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I pretty much agree with that. I think the Pats can get Revis for in the $13-14 million range but it will all come down to what the guaranteed money will be. That could be the deal breaker. Not only that, but if him and Sean Gilbert think the Pats are low-balling him (which they most likely will) he will sign with the Jets or Bills out of spite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here's a question. How exactly do you blitz a lot without pass rushers and CBs who can cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Not only that, but if him and Sean Gilbert think the Pats are low-balling him (which they most likely will) he will sign with the Jets or Bills out of spite. That could very well happen. That's why I put the odds at 50/50 that Revis returns to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here's a question. How exactly do you blitz a lot without pass rushers and CBs who can cover They'll likely address those needs during the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJet Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Do you guys know that Bowles is not calling the defense right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Do you guys know that Bowles is not calling the defense right??? I know that's what the man said, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Dumb logic. Yes, he blitzed a lot in Arizona. Not because he loves to blitz but because that was the only way for them to put pressure on the QB! When you have Wilk, Sheldon & Coples you don't have to blitz whatsoever. We'll still blitz of course but now he will be much more comfortable dropping guys in coverage, being able to be more creative and do a lot more things on defense without being exposed or risking too much by blitzing 2-3 linebackers all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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