Ghost Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 is he any good? i didnt check the numbers yet. Not as good as I thougjt. James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks 6’4” | 313 lbs | 26 years old Drafted in Round 1 (No. 25 overall pick) in 2011 Last Contract: Four years, $7.6 million Carpenter started 13 games in 2014 and was ranked 47th out of 78 guards on PFF with an overall score of -6.6. Carpenter struggled with run blocking last season, but perhaps a change of scenery and blocking schemes could do him good. He likely wouldn’t command much money on the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfresh Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Former #Seahawks OG James Carpenter will sign with the #NYJets per source This is a good signing if true. I have always been impressed anytime I saw him play, and he is the right type of player to be signing. Young, physical, former 1st round pick. Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Well, if anyone puts stock into PFF, not entirely certain how Carpenter is anything to be excited about. Not sure any free agent OG graded out worse. All in all, that sounds about right. He's in the top 10 of FA guards for what its worth. So there is a lot worse we could do. He also grades 6 spots higher than Colon. So yeah pretty sure its an upgrade. Unless of course he commits twice as many penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Apparently reading is hard for you. One poster, one poster says we are doomed. I'm pretty sure its sarcasm as well. I have been reading this thread just fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Not as good as I thougjt. James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks 6’4” | 313 lbs | 26 years old Drafted in Round 1 (No. 25 overall pick) in 2011 Last Contract: Four years, $7.6 million Carpenter started 13 games in 2014 and was ranked 47th out of 78 guards on PFF with an overall score of -6.6. Carpenter struggled with run blocking last season, but perhaps a change of scenery and blocking schemes could do him good. He likely wouldn’t command much money on the open market. I'll gladly take struggling on run protection then pass protection. Upgrade imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 PFF has Pryor on the All-Rookie team and was praising K. Wilson as a top slot corner, which he is not. Like most sabremetrics, algorithms, they take it way too far. The addendum for Pryor was the dearth of rookie safeties and the fact that he had more snaps than most. I actually fairly like PFF's grades for oline, dline and CBs, but it's certainly a tool to be used in conjunction with other evaluating metrics, not the end-all. That having been said, he's young and a former 1st round pick. I don't like to rely on teh eyeball test, but every time I saw Seattle's Oline, it was typically a mess. Certainly better than Winters starting another season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 So folks are upset Cary Williams didn't sign with us? Are fans really lowing their standards just because you want to see the Jets on the FA ticker??? Are the same folks really upset Brandon Maxwell, a #2 CB went for huge money to Philly? Again settling just because you want the Jets to make some noise? The paranoia needs to stop, wait a week into the start of FA, which doesn't begin until tomorrow. The same approach that had us prepared to roll out Dimitri Patterson, Dexter McDougle, Darrin Walls, Kyle Wilson, etc. at corner all year? No. We have 0 corners. How about getting 1 to start off? At the rate CBs are going, which great "value" signing do you think we're going to make a week from now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I have been reading this thread just fine... Then you are just trolling and trying to stir up trouble. So if you want to have this back and forth analysis lets do it in pm. I'll gladly show where your reading comprehension fails. Keep it out of the news thread though. nvm. I've taken the bait enough alrdy. Still learning who's who around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The addendum for Pryor was the dearth of rookie safeties and the fact that he had more snaps than most. I actually fairly like PFF's grades for oline, dline and CBs, but it's certainly a tool to be used in conjunction with other evaluating metrics, not the end-all. That having been said, he's young and a former 1st round pick. I don't like to rely on teh eyeball test, but every time I saw Seattle's Oline, it was typically a mess. Certainly better than Winters starting another season though. They were one stupid pass away from back to back SBs. How bad could the O line be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I'll gladly take struggling on run protection then pass protection. Upgrade imo! Yeah, I'd like to see the contract details first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 They were one stupid pass away from back to back SBs. How bad could the O line be? Having Russell Wilson helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Then you are just trolling and trying to stir up trouble. So if you want to have this back and forth analysis lets do it in pm. I'll gladly show where your reading comprehension fails. Keep it out of the news thread though. You call me out and then tell me to take it to PM? LOL, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 They were one stupid pass away from back to back SBs. How bad could the O line be? Over the last couple of years their line seemed to be in constant upheaval and never that impressive. Team accolades does not preclude one unit from being subpar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Former first round pick 4 years ago, played along side Giacomini, talent is there, needs maturity, has been a starter... Still upside if he puts it together, value signing. Former Alabama player. It's good news that they made a "value signing" along the OL when they have serious weaknesses there and plenty to spend? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Report: Cardinals reach three-year, $10.5 million deal with Falcons DT Corey Peters http://t.co/T8I31X20qF — ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 anyone interested in reuniting Stevie Johnson with Chan once he gets released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 This + Iupati, huh? Did the Cardinals not get the memo that you don't sign anyone in the first week of FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 anyone interested in reuniting Stevie Johnson with Chan once he gets released? You're treading into dangerous waters, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The same approach that had us prepared to roll out Dimitri Patterson, Dexter McDougle, Darrin Walls, Kyle Wilson, etc. at corner all year? No. We have 0 corners. How about getting 1 to start off? At the rate CBs are going, which great "value" signing do you think we're going to make a week from now? Can we wait to see what happens with Revis? Still solid to good CB's available... Cro would be a very good signing and far better than any player available the Jets tried to sign last year except for maybe V Davis. House Culliver Williams Skrine Cox There are still good players available, Maxwell and Jackson were severely overpaid for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Can we wait to see what happens with Revis? Still solid to good CB's available... Cro would be a very good signing and far better than any player available the Jets tried to sign last year except for maybe V Davis. House Culliver Williams Skrine Cox There are still good players available, Maxwell and Jackson were severely overpaid for different reasons. No more Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's good news that they made a "value signing" along the OL when they have serious weaknesses there and plenty to spend? Why? Well they did go after Iupati. Carpenter isn't a scrub, he's 26, drafted 25th overall, but some would argue he hasn't lived up to that status, I trust a talent evaluator like Mac, and we should give the benefit of the doubt to this new regime at least for the first year or two, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 You're treading into dangerous waters, sir. i mean, he did have better stats then kerley this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Can we wait to see what happens with Revis? Still solid to good CB's available... Cro would be a very good signing and far better than any player available the Jets tried to sign last year except for maybe V Davis. House Culliver Williams Skrine Cox There are still good players available, Maxwell and Jackson were severely overpaid for different reasons. I'd go after Culliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Source: #49ers FA OLB Dan Skuta plans to sign five-year, $20.5 million deal with Jaguars. http://t.co/KXfuJXcIDk — Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoCSN) March 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 No more Williams. I wasn't talking about Cary Williams Kind of referring to Tramon Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He's in the top 10 of FA guards for what its worth. There's like six of them. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 i mean, he did have better stats then kerley this season. Yeah I'm just kidding. But there was a pissing contest of a thread on him earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yeah I'm just kidding. But there was a pissing contest of a thread on him earlier. i was looking, didn't see it. i'll go bump that one haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 There's like six of them. Lol 26 guards/centers Almost top 1/3 of FA guards/centers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff · 1m1 minute agoI was premature on James Carpenter to the #NYJets I'm told discussions are still ongoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff · 1m1 minute ago I was premature on James Carpenter to the #NYJets I'm told discussions are still ongoing WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I wasn't talking about Cary Williams Kind of referring to Tramon Williams Oh. Sorry you didn't make that clear. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff · 9m9 minutes ago I was premature on James Carpenter to the #NYJets I'm told discussions are still ongoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff · 9m9 minutes ago I was premature on James Carpenter to the #NYJets I'm told discussions are still ongoing Gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Not as good as I thougjt. James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks 6’4” | 313 lbs | 26 years old Drafted in Round 1 (No. 25 overall pick) in 2011 Last Contract: Four years, $7.6 million Carpenter started 13 games in 2014 and was ranked 47th out of 78 guards on PFF with an overall score of -6.6. Carpenter struggled with run blocking last season, but perhaps a change of scenery and blocking schemes could do him good. He likely wouldn’t command much money on the open market. Not as good as I thougjt. James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks 6’4” | 313 lbs | 26 years old Drafted in Round 1 (No. 25 overall pick) in 2011 Last Contract: Four years, $7.6 million Carpenter started 13 games in 2014 and was ranked 47th out of 78 guards on PFF with an There are still good players available, Maxwell and Jackson were severely overpaid for different reasons. Not as good as I thougjt. James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks 6’4” | 313 lbs | 26 years old Drafted in Round 1 (No. 25 overall pick) in 2011 Last Contract: Four years, $7.6 million Carpenter started 13 games in 2014 and was ranked 47th out of 78 guards on PFF with an overall score of -6.6. Carpenter struggled with run blocking last season, but perhaps a change of scenery and blocking schemes could do him good. He likely wouldn’t command much money on the open market. Remember he played in the toughest division in football. 49ers 2x... Rams 2x...cards2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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