pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said: I don't like it. I just don't think it is a good fit especially on the East Coast with the bad weather. He is highly inaccurate and with the wind at home I just don't like it. I see him in L.A or back up for Bree's until he is gone. I would say Houston but he was never a Bill O'brien type QB. Now Houston got their QB who will be a disaster there especially at 18 million a year. Kaep throws bombs. If Fitz can lob passes in the wind, and Pennington can too, Kaep won't have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2nd rounder? No ******* way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, pointman said: Kaep throws bombs. If Fitz can lob passes in the wind, and Pennington can too, Kaep won't have an issue. I said he has a great arm it is just his accuracy is terrible and even if he has a great arm the wind would make it sail even more. Kap will be a disaster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: 2nd rounder? No ******* way. Agreed. But say San Fran offered Kaep and their 2nd rounder for Mo. Do you take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I really don't think we are in it to land him. Just a ploy to show Fitzy we aren't sitting down and waiting his mercy. About Kap. I don't think he is good at reading defenses. Gailey can still get tons out of him but I don't think he is a good fit for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sully28 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I don't like Kaep for a 2nd rounder, maybe posturing for Fitz negotiations. I could see us making the deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Tony The Wiz said: 1 minute ago, sourceworx said: Agreed. But say San Fran offered Kaep and their 2nd rounder for Mo. Do you take it? I'll help Mo pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, sourceworx said: Agreed. But say San Fran offered Kaep and their 2nd rounder for Mo. Do you take it? Yep. If they can't sign Mo, and lose him after next year, you just get a late 3. I'd take an early 2 over that, let alone with Kap who can be cut if need be with no cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Agreed. But say San Fran offered Kaep and their 2nd rounder for Mo. Do you take it? I'd prefer they keep Kaep and just give their 1st instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Agreed. But say San Fran offered Kaep and their 2nd rounder for Mo. Do you take it? I'll take their 1st and Kaep for Mo and a 5th. He's a backup ******* QB who lost his job to Blaine Gabbert. Frankly, I don't want anything to do with him because he'd cost us picks. Just sign Tavaris Jackson if you want a QB that makes 1-read and then tucks the ball and runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully28 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 If we do trade for Kaep, Fitz goes to Denver and RG3 goes to the 49ers, Browns draft their QB. If Denver gets Kaep, we get the Fitz and the rest is the same. The worst case scenario is the Browns getting Kaep, that would force Denver and Jets into a bidding war for Fitzpatrick, especially if Denver likes him better than RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 This interest by Mac in Kap could just be spin to lower Fitz's price. I mean for Denver it's based on Osweiler signing with Houston. But the Jets could have made a deal with SF before this so why all of a sudden the interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Big upgrade for the Jets. Get him for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 But on the other hand isn't Kap's current contract below what Fitz is asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 As great as Fitz was he wont matvh those numbers this year and next year would be worse. I wold rather take a chance on a younger QB like Kapp IF IF IF the contracts is restructured and doesn't hurt us. We could be looking at Kap vs Geno. If Kap sucks then hopefully Petty is ready next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Devin Smith would like to see Kap as a QB IF he can hold on to the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 21s21 seconds ago If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 21s21 seconds ago If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, prime21 said: Devin Smith would like to see Kap as a QB IF he can hold on to the ball. Smith sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, pointman said: Smith sucks. Well I would like confirmation from a QB that can actually lay the ball out there for him to chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, pointman said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 21s21 seconds ago If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year When the rumors start that we're seriously considering bringing back Sanchez I'll know the Jets spin machine is hitting max rpms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I'd rather have Geno Smith than stinking Hoyer and that is saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: When the rumors start that we're seriously considering bringing back Sanchez I'll know the Jets spin machine is hitting max rpms... don't even joke, that would be incredible and the best thing for us. he's better than Fitz and would be a fraction of the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: When the rumors start that we're seriously considering bringing back Sanchez I'll know the Jets spin machine is hitting max rpms... Sperm Edwards said I have to neg you...well, no directly he didn't say that. But yeah.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I want no part of Hoyer. Haha imagine the Jets in madden with Kaep,Decker,Marshall and Forte. That would be a fun one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 To be honest there are only two teams that I see Fits playing for next year. Denver and us the Jets. Will John Elway pull the trigger. I say no just because I don't see him giving the money that Fits wants. He also knows that the price will be high because the Jets want him back and he fits the Jets better than any other team. Do you think he doesn't have a memory when Fits was with Buffalo and than with Houston. So I just see Fits agent finally realizes that he could get a two year contract from the Jets at about 10 million a year. There is no way anyone giving the contract that Houston gave to a QB at this stage of his career. Also Geno will be cut by the Jets. I could see them bringing in another vet for insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 To be honest there are only two teams that I see Fits playing for next year. Denver and us the Jets. Will John Elway pull the trigger. I say no just because I don't see him giving the money that Fits wants. He also knows that the price will be high because the Jets want him back and he fits the Jets better than any other team. Do you think he doesn't have a memory when Fits was with Buffalo and than with Houston. So I just see Fits agent finally realizes that he could get a two year contract from the Jets at about 10 million a year. There is no way anyone giving the contract that Houston gave to a QB at this stage of his career. Also Geno will be cut by the Jets. I could see them bringing in another vet for insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I'd be down for Kaep. He sucks, but so does every other Qb we're discussing. Might as well have one that sucks and was still 2 minutes from hoisting the Lombardi. And he still has huge upside. Can you really blame him for not thriving in that sh*t show out in San Fran? It cracks me up how Jets fan are so easy to write players off. Especially when it's directly after a season where a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick has the season he had. Remember the conversations about his limitations and career record before coming to the Jets? If he can do it, why cant a far more superior athlete do it? Let me guess, Harvard, right? GFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: I'd be down for Kaep. He sucks, but so does every other Qb we're discussing. Might as well have one that sucks and was still 2 minutes from hoisting the Lombardi. And he still has huge upside. Can you really blame him for not thriving in that sh*t show out in San Fran? It cracks me up how Jets fan are so easy to write players off. Especially when it's directly after a season where a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick has the season he had. Remember the conversations about his limitations and career record before coming to the Jets? If he can do it, why cant a far more superior athlete do it? Let me guess, Harvard, right? GFY It all comes down to the decision making. Fitzpatrick for the most part didn't make bad decisions.. If Kaep makes better decisions he is 200% the better player because he already is the far superior athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, Patriot Killa said: It all comes down to the decision making. Fitzpatrick for the most part didn't make bad decisions.. If Kaep makes better decisions he is 200% the better player because he already is the far superior athlete. that's just not true, he made bad decisions but w/ Marshall, decker and company they minimized the negative impact of those decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, nyjunc said: that's just not true, he made bad decisions but w/ Marshall, decker and company they minimized the negative impact of those decisions. Dude, that's why I said for the MOST part lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, Patriot Killa said: It all comes down to the decision making. Fitzpatrick for the most part didn't make bad decisions.. If Kaep makes better decisions he is 200% the better player because he already is the far superior athlete. What decisions was Fitz really asked to make? Gailey's whole offense is revolved around reducing the thinking by using presnap motion to get certain match ups. It's a 1 to 2 read offense and get the ball out quick. Slants and short in's. All timing. Very similar to Harbaugh. On 3rd down, just heave it up to Marshall. It worked for Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, JiF said: What decisions was Fitz really asked to make? Gailey's whole offense is revolved around reducing the thinking by using presnap motion to get certain match ups. It's a 1 to 2 read offense and get the ball out quick. Slants and short in's. All timing. Very similar to Harbaugh. On 3rd down, just heave it up to Marshall. It worked for Fitz. Man, stop making me actually want Kaep.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, JiF said: I'd be down for Kaep. He sucks, but so does every other Qb we're discussing. Might as well have one that sucks and was still 2 minutes from hoisting the Lombardi. And he still has huge upside. Can you really blame him for not thriving in that sh*t show out in San Fran? It cracks me up how Jets fan are so easy to write players off. Especially when it's directly after a season where a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick has the season he had. Remember the conversations about his limitations and career record before coming to the Jets? If he can do it, why cant a far more superior athlete do it? Let me guess, Harvard, right? GFY Well one issue is compensation, if we can get him as cheap as we got Ftiz fine, but SF wants a high pick and we have teams in competition with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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