k-met57 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 neither guy got any burn in preseason. is this procedural so these guys get replaced sometime this week? maybe it has to do with salaries being guaranteed? i am all for the best players staying, but again these guys barely saw the field in the preseason right? did i miss seeing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Likely guess is temporarily still on roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Howsare is a good STer and the only FB on the roster; my guess is we wanted to keep a FB and the savings from cutting Bohanon instead of Howsare were too good to pass up. Williams ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Howsare is a good STer and the only FB on the roster; my guess is we wanted to keep a FB and the savings from cutting Bohanon instead of Howsare were too good to pass up. Williams ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Agreed , had t paid attention to Howsare's position ... Somebody will play that position ... He Must have not been any drop off from Tommy B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Only reason I can think of for keeping Williams is if there is concern over the health of Forte and/or Robinson. Although he was also banged up in the preseason -- concussed against Jacksonville if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Howdare has value as STer and FB given how infrequently they use one. Williams is probably a first-cut candidate once they sign a player or two in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Howsare is cheaper than Bohanan. Williams is the ONLY SCAT back-type with HR-threat speed compared to the rest of current RBs - Forte, Powell, Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, AFJF said: Howdare has value as STer and FB given how infrequently they use one. Williams is probably a first-cut candidate once they sign a player or two in the coming days. Agreed, although he could be dropped next wk when Sheldon gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, j4jets said: Agreed, although he could be dropped next wk when Sheldon gets back. Yup....they're definitely among the few bottom of the roster guys who could be gone at a moment's notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Also Thomas, Martin LB, and Stanford. Who are these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Obrien2Toon said: Also Thomas, Martin LB, and Stanford. Who are these guys? Dont think Thomas sticks beyond week 1. Probably goes to practice squad when Sheldon comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 If you are on the opening day roster you were salary for the year is guaranteed. Maybe Tommy Bo will be signed after week one for specific games where we want a FB but we didn't want to pay his higher than a new rookie salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Obrien2Toon said: Also Thomas, Martin LB, and Stanford. Who are these guys? You'd know if you watched the PS games. All three flashed. Stanford is a vet (4 years) who played very, very well on D and specials; only way he wasn't making the team was if they only wanted 4ILBs. Thomas also played very very well on the DL, made plays all over the place. Odds are he is cut when Sheldon needs a roster spot - but keeping him on the 53 week 1 makes it harder for other teams to sign him (and less likely he would want to go elsewhere). Martin was OK, and won the 4th OLB job by default, and by having a great week 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, David Harris said: If you are on the opening day roster you were salary for the year is guaranteed. Maybe Tommy Bo will be signed after week one for specific games where we want a FB but we didn't want to pay his higher than a new rookie salary. That's only true for vets. Don't think Bohannon had enough service time to qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Obrien2Toon said: Also Thomas, Martin LB, and Stanford. Who are these guys? Guys we call "first line of defense" aka the guys first to go when you need a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: That's only true for vets. Don't think Bohannon had enough service time to qualify. I could be wrong but I thought anyone with 2 or more years in the NFL achieved that status. Like I said, I could be wrong. Either way, Tommy shouldn't be making any penny above the min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, j4jets said: I could be wrong but I thought anyone with 2 or more years in the NFL achieved that status. Like I said, I could be wrong. Either way, Tommy shouldn't be making any penny above the min. You're wrong. It requires 4 or more years http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/31/refresher-on-the-vested-veteran-guarantee/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, Doggin94it said: You're wrong. It requires 4 or more years http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/31/refresher-on-the-vested-veteran-guarantee/ Like I said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Howsare is cheaper than Bohanan. Williams is the ONLY SCAT back-type with HR-threat speed compared to the rest of current RBs - Forte, Powell, Robinson. The bold is spot on, a point many here are overlooking. At FB, I seriously doubt Mac would make this move just to save a few pennies. I think Howsare actually outplayed Bohanan and is a better ST player as well. 20/20 hindsight, we all should have seen this coming since Bohanan played every single quarter of preseason. That is pretty unusual for one of the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 8 hours ago, David Harris said: If you are on the opening day roster you were salary for the year is guaranteed. Maybe Tommy Bo will be signed after week one for specific games where we want a FB but we didn't want to pay his higher than a new rookie salary. This is only true if you are a vested vet and this is only true once in the vets career. They have to elect to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: Also Thomas, Martin LB, and Stanford. Who are these guys? LB Stanford apparently looked good through camps/practice, plays ST well, and flashed in preseason games... Based on Twitter snippets I saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Scat back is a great position, I think. What does it do again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 The bold is spot on, a point many here are overlooking. At FB, I seriously doubt Mac would make this move just to save a few pennies. I think Howsare actually outplayed Bohanan and is a better ST player as well. 20/20 hindsight, we all should have seen this coming since Bohanan played every single quarter of preseason. That is pretty unusual for one of the 53. I actually did see the Bohannon cut coming - I just didn't think they'd keep Howsare. Thought they'd just go without a FB Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 10 hours ago, ljr said: Likely guess is temporarily still on roster That was my thought, it ain't over 'til it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: LB Stanford apparently looked good through camps/practice, plays ST well, and flashed in preseason games... Based on Twitter snippets I saw I read similar assertions on nyjets.com about Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: I actually did see the Bohannon cut coming - I just didn't think they'd keep Howsare. Thought they'd just go without a FB Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk Same here but I did go back and look at last game for howsware and not too shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: Same here but I did go back and look at last game for howsware and not too shabby Good special teamer, and natural ability. Maybe he will settle down and learn on the job. Could be a good story. New nickname; Houseware keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: Good special teamer, and natural ability. Maybe he will settle down and learn on the job. Could be a good story. New nickname; Houseware keeping. Lol yep good nickname plus the guy is like 255 in addition to blocking for rb he would be good QB bodyguard in passing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 11 hours ago, k-met57 said: neither guy got any burn in preseason. is this procedural so these guys get replaced sometime this week? maybe it has to do with salaries being guaranteed? i am all for the best players staying, but again these guys barely saw the field in the preseason right? did i miss seeing them? Matt Forte who is on the wrong side of 30 and was injured all preseason is the lead RB. Bilal Powell has a history with this regime and while an awesome asset, was missing injured when the Jets needed him the most last year in Buffalo . Khiry Robinson was injured all off season and his running style could lead to further injury and missed time . Dominique Williams provides the same skill set as Powell but is not as good a blocker yet . Experience should improve that area of his game . Julian Howsare plays 3 roles and is as effective a special teams performer as Bohannon while costing the team much less in cap value . Both these guys are indicative of what this coaching staff and front office are looking for in players . If you perform, you will be rewarded regardless of how you came to be on the roster . I think Coach Bowles said it best last year . "On this team, you earn playing time" . That is all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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