UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? In other words, are fans more upset at the record or the way they got there? I think it is more the latter than the former, because even at some semblance of goodness, 2-4 would have still been a distinct possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 He's still on the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? Yes. If we played up to last year, we'd have defeated Cincy, defeated KC and defeated Seattle. 4-1 is where we'd be. Give the KC game, call it just a bad one. Still 3-2, wins vs. Cincy, Buff. and Seattle, and competitive vs. KC and Pitts. We're not even playing at 50% of last year. Fitz and the offense is turnover ridden sh*t, and the Defense is literally the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Ah yes, our biannual Francessa said thread. I'm sure this thread will go well. To the memes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: He's still on the air? I was about to ask the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Warfish said: Yes. If we played up to last year, we'd have defeated Cincy, defeated KC and defeated Seattle. 4-1 is where we'd be. We're not even playing at 50% of last year. Fitz and the offense is turnover ridden sh*t, and the Defense is literally the worst. He said that Cincy could have been won, but at KC and at Pitt, no shot. Kind of iffy on Seattle at home. He said that if they got out of the first 6 3-3, they 'would have thrown a party" Even more son now that Buffalo has become good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Francesa LOL he hates the Jets and now our fans are believing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 No. Last year we couldn't beat good teams either. We'll start getting wins soon once the schedule gets easier. Basically, we are playing at the level we did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Francesa LOL he hates the Jets and now our fans are believing him. His takes were fairly common with others. Don La Greca said basically the same thing. Not angry at the actual record but how they got there. 2-4 or 1-5 was a distinct possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Mike135 said: No. Last year we couldn't beat good teams either. We'll start getting wins soon once the schedule gets easier. Basically, we are playing at the level we did last year. People forget that we were 5-5 at one point last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: His takes were fairly common with others. Don La Greca said basically the same thing. Not angry at the actual record but how they got there. 2-4 or 1-5 was a distinct possibility Whats Bleacher report saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Any team that would be happy to have a losing or .500 record at any point in the season, is not a true contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? In other words, are fans more upset at the record or the way they got there? I think it is more the latter than the former, because even at some semblance of goodness, 2-4 would have still been a distinct possibility. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: Any team that would be happy to have a losing or .500 record at any point in the season, is not a true contender. Yes and....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 18 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? In other words, are fans more upset at the record or the way they got there? I think it is more the latter than the former, because even at some semblance of goodness, 2-4 would have still been a distinct possibility. I've only been saying this since April. This year's early season 1-4 Jets are the same as last year's late season 5-1 Jets just playing harder competition. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SAR I Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: His takes were fairly common with others. Don La Greca said basically the same thing. Not angry at the actual record but how they got there. 2-4 or 1-5 was a distinct possibility We will be 1-5 and ultimately wind up at 7-7 with the Patriots and Bills lined up at Christmas so long as the fans and media don't go nuclear after Monday and Bowles keeps the locker room intact. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, SAR I said: We will be 1-5 and ultimately wind up at 7-7 with the Patriots and Bills lined up at Christmas so long as the fans and media don't go nuclear after Monday and Bowles keeps the locker room intact. SAR I WHy would they go nuclear after this game as opposed to any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 If the Jets were playing at the level they were last year, with a red-hot red zone percentage. We'd have 3 wins. This might be the same team as last year but we are not executing like we did last year. That's on everybody. I am not totally in shock to be 1-4 (although I thought we'd do better) and I think we will turn it around to .500 at season's end.. but last years team was competing for the playoffs - this team isn't. That's partly due to the schedule being really top heavy and it's also due to the execution on the field/coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, SAR I said: We will be 1-5 and ultimately wind up at 7-7 with the Patriots and Bills lined up at Christmas so long as the fans and media don't go nuclear after Monday and Bowles keeps the locker room intact. SAR I 7-7 is a pipe dream. Or a dream of someone on the pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lupz27 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 41 minutes ago, Warfish said: Yes. If we played up to last year, we'd have defeated Cincy, defeated KC and defeated Seattle. 4-1 is where we'd be. Give the KC game, call it just a bad one. Still 3-2, wins vs. Cincy, Buff. and Seattle, and competitive vs. KC and Pitts. We're not even playing at 50% of last year. Fitz and the offense is turnover ridden sh*t, and the Defense is literally the worst. Your so wrong it's scary, the Jets would never win those games with Fitztragic playing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 45 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? In other words, are fans more upset at the record or the way they got there? I think it is more the latter than the former, because even at some semblance of goodness, 2-4 would have still been a distinct possibility. yes there would be. we'd be 3-2/4-1 instead of 1-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Nothing tops a thread loaded with Francesa GIFs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southparkcpa Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Yes. If we played up to last year, we'd have defeated Cincy, defeated KC and defeated Seattle. 4-1 is where we'd be. Give the KC game, call it just a bad one. Still 3-2, wins vs. Cincy, Buff. and Seattle, and competitive vs. KC and Pitts. We're not even playing at 50% of last year. Fitz and the offense is turnover ridden sh*t, and the Defense is literally the worst. I agree with much of this. Minimum, 3-2. Cincy a win, Seattle a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Francesa said something very interesting yesterday which got me thinking. If the Jets were playing at the level they played last year, would there be much of a difference in the record? In other words, are fans more upset at the record or the way they got there? I think it is more the latter than the former, because even at some semblance of goodness, 2-4 would have still been a distinct possibility. Of course. Chiefs and Cincy games were ours. Couldn't score TDs against Cincy and couldnt pass to our guys against Chiefs. Outside of the Jets games, both those teams are a combined 2-5. There is a world of difference between 1-4 and 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Disagree the jets are a faw worse team then last year. The secondary is the worst in the league, Fitz has imploded and our running game has been average at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, SAR I said: I've only been saying this since April. This year's early season 1-4 Jets are the same as last year's late season 5-1 Jets just playing harder competition. SAR I I often agree with you, but not this time. The secondary is playing worse and the DL is not getting it done. To take an example of the most recent game, yeah I agree that Pitt is one of the tougher teams in the league. But the OL is not particularly strong for them, what with Wilk playing opposite a 3rd stringer. I can't think of a single game last year where the DL was so ineffective, and this year all expectations were they would be better what with Williams coming on, a year older and all. I also don't recall a TD like the one M Williams gave up in that same game in any of the losses last year. Those to me are not cherry picked situations. They are emblematic of the problems the D is having. It's not all on quality of the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I came into this thread ready to rep every single Gif/meme but sadly I cannot rep some of them. that is all i have for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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