AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 With the Jets being off, I only watched 30 minutes of football yesterday before going out with the wife and kids for some quality time. Being north of Philly, that was the local game and I was looking forward to watching it for one reason. I knew the Eagles would be starting a back-up RT, like so many of the back-up linemen the Jets have faced this season. I wanted to see if I was being unreasonable in expecting the Jets D-line to make a play against other teams' back-ups or if some players actually take advantage of those types of things. On the first play of the game, Ryan Kerrigan obliterated the guy and nearly ripped Carson Wentz' Jersey off...the thing was literally tattered and hanging off of one shoulder. two plays later, same exact thing. Almost untouched by the OT, Kerrigan got a sack of Wentz. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Mo Wilk is being absolutely dominated by no-name back-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Because he only plays full speed when he wants to. It was his knock coming out of Temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, AFJF said: With the Jets being off, I only watched 30 minutes of football yesterday before going out with the wife and kids for some quality time. Being north of Philly, that was the local game and I was looking forward to watching it for one reason. I knew the Eagles would be starting a back-up RT, like so many of the back-up linemen the Jets have faced this season. I wanted to see if I was being unreasonable in expecting the Jets D-line to make a play against other teams' back-ups or if some players actually take advantage of those types of things. On the first play of the game, Ryan Kerrigan obliterated the guy and nearly ripped Carson Wentz' Jersey off...the thing was literally tattered and hanging off of one shoulder. two plays later, same exact thing. Almost untouched by the OT, Kerrigan got a sack of Wentz. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Mo Wilk is being absolutely dominated by no-name back-ups. I live in the same area and watched the same game and thought the same thing....I was thinking, wow - this is what someone looks like that dominates a game...whose presence makes an clear and obvious impact on a game. We don't have that - Mo isn't that guy, Sheldon isn't that guy and Williams has yet to show that as well. Revis used to be..but we let him walk in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, FidelioJet said: I live in the same area and watched the same game and thought the same thing....I was thinking, wow - this is what someone looks like that dominates a game...whose presence makes an clear and obvious impact on a game. We don't have that - Mo isn't that guy, Sheldon isn't that guy and Williams has yet to show that as well. Revis used to be..but we let him walk in his prime. I think Sheldon would be that guy if he wasn't playing OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Lets call it like we see it. Once Mo got the $$ he stopped playing .. Think of how great the NFL (and all sports) would be if these player salaries were performance dependent, say like us average slobs who work for a living. You throw 6 INTS, you do not get paid, you go 6 games without touching the opposing QB, you do not get paid. I guarantee the quality of play would improve 100% if this were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Lets call it like we see it. Once Mo got the $$ he stopped playing .. Think of how great the NFL (and all sports) would be if these player salaries were performance dependent, say like us average slobs who work for a living. You throw 6 INTS, you do not get paid, you go 6 games without touching the opposing QB, you do not get paid. I guarantee the quality of play would improve 100% if this were the case. I get the sense we're getting the same level of effort from Revis too. He knows he's on his last big contract, made enough money and is just going through the motions at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It was more frustrating having everyone else in the AFC East win thus even if the Jets win tonight...they're still last in the AFC East.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: It was more frustrating having everyone else in the AFC East win thus even if the Jets win tonight...they're still last in the AFC East.. I don't see that changing at any point this season. 31st in pass defense and what, 35th in scoring offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, AFJF said: With the Jets being off, I only watched 30 minutes of football yesterday before going out with the wife and kids for some quality time. Being north of Philly, that was the local game and I was looking forward to watching it for one reason. I knew the Eagles would be starting a back-up RT, like so many of the back-up linemen the Jets have faced this season. I wanted to see if I was being unreasonable in expecting the Jets D-line to make a play against other teams' back-ups or if some players actually take advantage of those types of things. On the first play of the game, Ryan Kerrigan obliterated the guy and nearly ripped Carson Wentz' Jersey off...the thing was literally tattered and hanging off of one shoulder. two plays later, same exact thing. Almost untouched by the OT, Kerrigan got a sack of Wentz. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Mo Wilk is being absolutely dominated by no-name back-ups. That reeeeaaaaaaaly sucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Wilkerson is fast becoming one of my least favorite players on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It's almost as if he's averaged 6.5 sacks a year before we paid him $17m per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 35 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said: Because he only plays full speed when he wants to. It was his knock coming out of Temple. Coples 2.0? Seriously, is that attitude something Rex sought out? Holmes? Braylon? Coples? The list goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 43 minutes ago, AFJF said: With the Jets being off, I only watched 30 minutes of football yesterday before going out with the wife and kids for some quality time. Being north of Philly, that was the local game and I was looking forward to watching it for one reason. I knew the Eagles would be starting a back-up RT, like so many of the back-up linemen the Jets have faced this season. I wanted to see if I was being unreasonable in expecting the Jets D-line to make a play against other teams' back-ups or if some players actually take advantage of those types of things. On the first play of the game, Ryan Kerrigan obliterated the guy and nearly ripped Carson Wentz' Jersey off...the thing was literally tattered and hanging off of one shoulder. two plays later, same exact thing. Almost untouched by the OT, Kerrigan got a sack of Wentz. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Mo Wilk is being absolutely dominated by no-name back-ups. Because he got paid. No need to bust his ass anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 35 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Coples 2.0? Seriously, is that attitude something Rex sought out? Holmes? Braylon? Coples? The list goes on... Could be, lol. Wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 What makes it worse is Bowles saying he's doing the same things he did last season. Last season he had 12 sacks but is currently on pace for 5 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Bowles just sux, period. Sorry, I don't understand why he is in a sophomore slump. It's not like the league went to school on the new guy. He's been calling it on defense for a while now. Why is this the sort of thing the Jets always get? A bit of the good followed my a whole hell of a lot of the bad? I just don't know what to make of this franchise, and please, it's not Woody. Woody doesn't mind spending but it seems he never gets any bang for his buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Todd says it's cool, the mush rush is awesome with a crap secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, AFJF said: What makes it worse is Bowles saying he's doing the same things he did last season. Last season he had 12 sacks but is currently on pace for 5 this year. Todd Bowles is full of excuses he's not head coaching material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, AFJF said: With the Jets being off, I only watched 30 minutes of football yesterday before going out with the wife and kids for some quality time. Being north of Philly, that was the local game and I was looking forward to watching it for one reason. I knew the Eagles would be starting a back-up RT, like so many of the back-up linemen the Jets have faced this season. I wanted to see if I was being unreasonable in expecting the Jets D-line to make a play against other teams' back-ups or if some players actually take advantage of those types of things. On the first play of the game, Ryan Kerrigan obliterated the guy and nearly ripped Carson Wentz' Jersey off...the thing was literally tattered and hanging off of one shoulder. two plays later, same exact thing. Almost untouched by the OT, Kerrigan got a sack of Wentz. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Mo Wilk is being absolutely dominated by no-name back-ups. Check cleared..... no reason to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Coples 2.0? Seriously, is that attitude something Rex sought out? Holmes? Braylon? Coples? The list goes on... Interestingly..Coples absolutely had that REP coming from UNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 its weird how the same thing happened to the whole line after week 1 aliens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Larz said: its weird how the same thing happened to the whole line after week 1 aliens? Leonard Williams disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, AFJF said: Leonard Williams disagrees. mo got his big deal in between week 1 and week 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 We shoulda traded Wilk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, SR24 said: We shoulda traded Wilk! Imagine we had, and our line was being this ineffective ... FIRE MAC, HE TRADED OUR BEST PLAYER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Larz said: mo got his big deal in between week 1 and week 2 ? You said the same thing happened to the whole line after week one. I thought you were on the subject of Mo's decreased production which hasn't been an issue for Leo. My apologies if you meant something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, AFJF said: You said the same thing happened to the whole line after week one. I thought you were on the subject of Mo's decreased production which hasn't been an issue for Leo. My apologies if you meant something else. so what has Leo done ? 1 sack since week 1 ? the brilliant analysis in this thread is he got paid and got lazy and I am wondering when he got paid and what happened to the rest of the line (which is more than Leo btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, AFJF said: I think Sheldon would be that guy if he wasn't playing OLB. Sheldon would cause the most havoc if he lined up inside. Shame he is a douche off the field, and the Jets will most likely trade him this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, Larz said: so what has Leo done ? 1 sack since week 1 ? the brilliant analysis in this thread is he got paid and got lazy and I am wondering when he got paid and what happened to the rest of the line (which is more than Leo btw) He's had at least a 1/2 sack every week except Buffalo. 2 1/2 sacks with a forced fumble in 4 games...that's double-digit sack production over the course of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, AFJF said: He's had at least a 1/2 sack every week except Buffalo. 2 1/2 sacks with a forced fumble in 4 games...that's double-digit sack production over the course of a season. you know they only count if its the 4th quarter of a close game, right? still doesn't explain how mo got paid and lazy after week 1 tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Sheldon would cause the most havoc if he lined up inside. Shame he is a douche off the field, and the Jets will most likely trade him this offseason. Yes he would, which only makes the defensive struggles that much more frustrating. They could trade him, but what would his market value be at this point. Former 1st round pick who wins DROY, and the Jets may have turned him in to a guy who they can get a 3rd rounder for. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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